ohboy109 wrote: Jeff Van Gully wrote:
xsaberx wrote:We have the talent level of a lottery team. We overachieved and played as well as possible given our talent.
The upside is that we may look enticing for free agents.
The downside is that there are really no game changing free agents - no elite - and moreover no duo of elite free agents that want to play together - which is what we really need to get into contention.
The next downside is that even though we have huge cap room, in order to get great players we will need to make trades which depletes our team and assets.
The next next downside is that we have to be incredibly lucky/prophetic to add a major piece in the draft (whereas if we had played to our talent we would have a very high pick and better likelihood of getting a real piece).
The final downside is that we will now be expected to be this good or better going forward which may be hard to continue next year - so we've kindof killed off building thought the draft unless something like RJ and Randle are both injured next year and our record doesn't reflect our potential.
The plan? Sign Randle now to get him at a good price. Draft incredibly, add good pieces only at a good price - but stay flexible for 2022. And we must stay good next year - we must keep overachieving so that some duo of elites thinks if they just came to this already good team in NY, that they would have a good chance to win a chip.
As far as point guards - Lonzo is not good enough to warrant the money he will cost. Lillard will only work if he absolutely demands a trade and the offers are not very good - otherwise we will have no team around him and end up like the Knicks always do - with an aging star without the team around him needed to get the win in the next few years. Schroeder or Conely or Lowery on a 1 year would be fine and keep us treadmilling until next year.
well put all around.
i think the randle decision is the biggest of all. i suspect this FO will be patient in that i don't think they will make a big trade until it is icing on the cake. on one hand, extending randle now lets you save big money on his long-term contract. if he's going to stay an all-nba level player, his extension this year is a huge discount. if someone were available to sign next to him as a max this offseason, you could then empty the war chest in trade. randle + max star signing + trade for star can make you a contender. especially if you are able to keep RJ and mitch in the process.
otherwise, it might make more sense to stay patient and have another season like this one where everyone hopefully gets a little better and you can strike hard in 2022 offseason. i think that's the deadline for building a contender in either case, and i'm fine with a plan like that. you hope for the kids to make leaps. given the season they just had, i think the environment is conducive to meaningful progress for guys like RJ, obi, and quick. (i will add that the environment is especially conducive to their development because of what they experienced -- winning and competing as opposed to being dysfunctional cannon fodder all year.)
You don't bring Randle back no stars are coming to play with him trade him asap they will be better continue to develop and draft for now
As an example if of out big assets we retained only Randle and Mitch, came back with Westbrook, McCullum and retained Knox, Frank, Bullock, Noel, IQ, Taj, Rose that would be a solid squad.
Think we would be up there with anyone.
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