Who will the Knicks Target? Here's a List of REALISTIC Players

[moocow007]

How about Norman Powell, TJ McConnell, and Will Barton.

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

[Guano]

this thread is depressing

[Appleshampoo]

How about Norman Powell, TJ McConnell, and Will Barton.

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

[Ghetto Gospel]

How about Norman Powell, TJ McConnell, and Will Barton.

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

surely that can't be the barometer for who gets picked up, only stars can do that and lord knows those aren't readily available

[HarthorneWingo]

this thread is depressing

Sometimes the grass isn't always greener somewhere else. Sometimes you're just better off sticking with what worked and making small improvement as opposed to wholesale changes. I think we were 22-10 (or something like that) after DRose.

[WargamesX]

Oubre has the looks, but not the game.

Reminds me on Moneyball

[WargamesX]

this thread is depressing

Only if we go in this year

[moocow007]

How about Norman Powell, TJ McConnell, and Will Barton.

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

McConnel is coming off his most productive offensive season of his 6 year career and he managed just 8.6ppg and 6.6apg. Yes he shot 55% from the field but that's because he only took 7 shots a game and didn't try things he can't do offensively. That's not what the Knicks need for at starting PG.

Barton and Powell being upgrades over Bullock and Burks? Sure. But it doesn't mean that their elevated salaries are going to be worth it respective to Bullock or Burks is going to make it worth it.

Do you really believe that if the Knicks had these 3 guys instead of Bullock and Burks that they'd have made it past Atlanta? I don't.

[moocow007]

How about Norman Powell, TJ McConnell, and Will Barton.

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

surely that can't be the barometer for who gets picked up, only stars can do that and lord knows those aren't readily available

So you want to eat up the bulk of the salary cap adding more role players? The Knicks are one of the least talented teams in the NBA That IS the reason they got hammered by the Hawks. These 3 guys don't really add the type of talent that would have made them significantly more talented than the counterparts that they would have replaced (Rose, Burks and Bullock). You got MAYBE one beta, and a couple gamma or deltas. That's not going to be enough.

[HarthorneWingo]

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

McConnel is coming off his most productive offensive season of his 6 year career and he managed just 8.6ppg and 6.6apg. Yes he shot 55% from the field but that's because he only took 7 shots a game and didn't try things he can't do offensively. That's not what the Knicks need for at starting PG.

Barton and Powell being upgrades over Bullock and Burks? Sure. But it doesn't mean that their elevated salaries are going to be worth it respective to Bullock or Burks is going to make it worth it.

Do you really believe that if the Knicks had these 3 guys instead of Bullock and Burks that they'd have made it past Atlanta? I don't.

Are you going to be the first to break 100,000 posts?

Oops, never mind. I forgot that shammgod was on his third 100,000.

[moocow007]

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

McConnel is coming off his most productive offensive season of his 6 year career and he managed just 8.6ppg and 6.6apg. Yes he shot 55% from the field but that's because he only took 7 shots a game and didn't try things he can't do offensively. That's not what the Knicks need for at starting PG.

Barton and Powell being upgrades over Bullock and Burks? Sure. But it doesn't mean that their elevated salaries are going to be worth it respective to Bullock or Burks is going to make it worth it.

Do you really believe that if the Knicks had these 3 guys instead of Bullock and Burks that they'd have made it past Atlanta? I don't.

Are you going to be the first to break 100,000 posts?

We already have an 100,000 post guy I believe on one of the other boards. I suspect him of being a robot but haven't been able to prove it.

[moocow007]

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

McConnel is coming off his most productive offensive season of his 6 year career and he managed just 8.6ppg and 6.6apg. Yes he shot 55% from the field but that's because he only took 7 shots a game and didn't try things he can't do offensively. That's not what the Knicks need for at starting PG.

Barton and Powell being upgrades over Bullock and Burks? Sure. But it doesn't mean that their elevated salaries are going to be worth it respective to Bullock or Burks is going to make it worth it.

Do you really believe that if the Knicks had these 3 guys instead of Bullock and Burks that they'd have made it past Atlanta? I don't.

Are you going to be the first to break 100,000 posts?

Oops, never mind. I forgot that shammgod was on his third 100,000.

I believe I have the record for word count though.

[Ghetto Gospel]

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

surely that can't be the barometer for who gets picked up, only stars can do that and lord knows those aren't readily available

So you want to eat up the bulk of the salary cap adding more role players? The Knicks are one of the least talented teams in the NBA That IS the reason they got hammered by the Hawks. These 3 guys don't really add the type of talent that would have made them significantly more talented than the counterparts that they would have replaced (Rose, Burks and Bullock).

I don't necessarily disagree because those guys don't really move the needle. The short-term guys we picked up last year (Rose, Burks and Bullock) played their way into probably getting a nice new deal either with us or another team.

Is the play really just to sign scraps to 1 year deals until a superstar says they want to play in NY?

[Appleshampoo]

None of these guys can create easy shots for both themselves and others.

Really? It seemed like in fantasy basketball McConnell had 15 assist nights once a week. Barton and Powell would be upgrades to Bullock and Burks.

McConnel is coming off his most productive offensive season of his 6 year career and he managed just 8.6ppg and 6.6apg. Yes he shot 55% from the field but that's because he only took 7 shots a game and didn't try things he can't do offensively. That's not what the Knicks need for at starting PG.

Barton and Powell being upgrades over Bullock and Burks? Sure. But it doesn't mean that their elevated salaries are going to be worth it respective to Bullock or Burks is going to make it worth it.

Do you really believe that if the Knicks had these 3 guys instead of Bullock and Burks that they'd have made it past Atlanta? I don't.

I would want Rose resigned if McConnel were added. I think Bullock and Burks are going to require require elevated salaries from last year. Bullock at $4 million is great, but I'm worried he resigns for 3 years at a higher salary.

I would prefer the improved perimeter defense and all around games of Barton and Powell. The salaries probably range from $12-18 so I get the concern.

Does Barton, Powell, McConnell (and Mitch) instead of Payton, Burks, and Bullock move the needle versus the Hawks? I think it does, but I agree the Knicks are better off adding a major talent.

[Appleshampoo]

surely that can't be the barometer for who gets picked up, only stars can do that and lord knows those aren't readily available

So you want to eat up the bulk of the salary cap adding more role players? The Knicks are one of the least talented teams in the NBA That IS the reason they got hammered by the Hawks. These 3 guys don't really add the type of talent that would have made them significantly more talented than the counterparts that they would have replaced (Rose, Burks and Bullock).

I don't necessarily disagree because those guys don't really move the needle. The short-term guys we picked up last year (Rose, Burks and Bullock) played their way into probably getting a nice new deal either with us or another team.

Is the play really just to sign scraps to 1 year deals until a superstar says they want to play in NY?

That's what I'm wondering. There's no easy play unless a superstar wants in.

[John Murdoch]

Yall want Schruder?

[Ghetto Gospel]

Yall want Schruder?

nah we watched the playoffs

[John Murdoch]

Yall want Schruder?

nah we watched the playoffs

Trust me most of us hate him too , jus curiois as to what his market will be in FA everyone keeps sayin knicks

[moocow007]

surely that can't be the barometer for who gets picked up, only stars can do that and lord knows those aren't readily available

So you want to eat up the bulk of the salary cap adding more role players? The Knicks are one of the least talented teams in the NBA That IS the reason they got hammered by the Hawks. These 3 guys don't really add the type of talent that would have made them significantly more talented than the counterparts that they would have replaced (Rose, Burks and Bullock).

I don't necessarily disagree because those guys don't really move the needle. The short-term guys we picked up last year (Rose, Burks and Bullock) played their way into probably getting a nice new deal either with us or another team.

Is the play really just to sign scraps to 1 year deals until a superstar says they want to play in NY?

But we've tried this already. No superstar of any worth is going to want to play in NY if the Knicks don't have serious talent in place. The only superstars that have wanted to come to the Knicks low talent teams in the past 20+ years are guys from NY who come in with "fire and desire" and, because they can't perform miracles, get run out of town. That works great theoretically but not really realistically or the Knicks wouldn't still be in the situation they are in.

[moocow007]

Yall want Schruder?

nah we watched the playoffs

Trust me most of us hate him too , jus curiois as to what his market will be in FA everyone keeps sayin knicks

Why do you guys hate him? Cause he couldn't replace Davis as the Robin to Lebron's Batman after AD got injured?