Around the NBA part 2 - Save Melo from Brodie

DaGawd · Post #1021 » by **DaGawd** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:45 am

Losing to the Kings at home in triple OT is crazy.. the lakers are prime time ass :lol:

Worst_to_First · Post #1022 » by **Worst_to_First** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:57 am

HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

As much as the guys like Dray respect Ju, Warriors likely to not even trade a package of Kuminga, Moody and Wiseman for Randle.

Montmorencie · Post #1023 » by **Montmorencie** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:01 am

HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

spree2kawhi · Post #1024 » by **spree2kawhi** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:11 am

Montmorencie wrote:
HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

We should entertain trading him there for a couple of their really young prospects, not Wiggins though. Randle would also be great for them next to Draymond.

HEZI · Post #1025 » by **HEZI** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:27 pm

Montmorencie wrote:
HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

Randle would never work on the Warriors and they would reject us so quick.

Trading Randle for a two way wing like Wiggins is just wishful thinking on our end, Warriors would never give up a key component of their team for a chemistry killing player like Randle who doesn’t fit their team nor is he a need for them at all whatsoever

HEZI · Post #1026 » by **HEZI** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:29 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:
HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

We should entertain trading him there for a couple of their really young prospects, not Wiggins though. Randle would also be great for them next to Draymond.

We can entertain all we want they would never trade anything, especially one of the best two way wings in the league in Wiggins, to us for Randle

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1027 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:37 pm

Montmorencie wrote:
HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

How would he look twice as good with the Warriors? He averaged 84 touches per game last season, that is more than Wiggins and Poole combined this season. You're replacing a guy who defends and plays off the ball with a ball dominant player that eats possessions and doesn't defend. The only way Randle works with the Warriors is coming off the bench, his game is the antithesis of what the Warriors run which is ball movement and high paced, while his game is slow paced and isolation based.

It's like saying add Westbrook to their team.

Reign23 · Post #1028 » by **Reign23** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:42 pm

jesus the lakers.
lebron trying to win the game with the stand still iso pullups is just beyond terrible. like the roster construction and the linups Vogel is rolling out. how do you need about 5 little guards that need the ball and are inefficent scorers? Nunn hasn't even played.
Also DNP Deandre Jordan. wth is he doing out there.
it is looking bad for them right now, but I still think it could be fixed tho. I would trade THT for a 3 and d and I would also trade Westbrook for Wall (no kidding).

god shammgod · Post #1029 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:50 pm

Reign23 wrote:jesus the lakers.
lebron trying to win the game with the stand still iso pullups is just beyond terrible. like the roster construction and the linups Vogel is rolling out. how do you need about 5 little guards that need the ball and are inefficent scorers? Nunn hasn't even played.
Also DNP Deandre Jordan. wth is he doing out there.
it is looking bad for them right now, but I still think it could be fixed tho. I would trade THT for a 3 and d and I would also trade Westbrook for Wall (no kidding).

houston already had him. you probably couldn't give westbrook away right now. you'd have to cut him.

Reign23 · Post #1030 » by **Reign23** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:57 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Reign23 wrote:jesus the lakers.
lebron trying to win the game with the stand still iso pullups is just beyond terrible. like the roster construction and the linups Vogel is rolling out. how do you need about 5 little guards that need the ball and are inefficent scorers? Nunn hasn't even played.
Also DNP Deandre Jordan. wth is he doing out there.
it is looking bad for them right now, but I still think it could be fixed tho. I would trade THT for a 3 and d and I would also trade Westbrook for Wall (no kidding).

houston already had him. you probably couldn't give westbrook away right now. you'd have to cut him.

they would buy out wall or westbrook anyway at some time. If the lakers attach a little money and maybe a second round pick, I think that should do it.
Wall is also washed, but he is a slightly better 3 point shooter and defender which could make a big difference for them.

HEZI · Post #1031 » by **HEZI** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:53 am

DLo is just cold blooded in the clutch

HEZI · Post #1032 » by **HEZI** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:56 am

Hornets lose to Houston

Fat · Post #1033 » by **Fat** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:01 am

HEZI wrote:DLo is just cold blooded in the clutch

He’s been really clutch as of late

HEZI · Post #1034 » by **HEZI** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:04 am

Angryfatboy wrote:
HEZI wrote:DLo is just cold blooded in the clutch

He’s been really clutch as of late

I don’t think it’s just as of late. I’ve seen a stat somewhere that had him like around the top in terms of clutch buckets over the last few years

knicks94 · Post #1035 » by **knicks94** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:32 am

Nets almost beat the Suns without Harden having a good game.They are definitely the heavy favorite to represent the East in the finals.

Post #1036 » by **moocow007** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:07 am

Montmorencie wrote:
HEZI wrote:Would trade Randle for Wiggins in a heartbeat but Warriors would never

Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

Exactly.

spree2kawhi · Post #1037 » by **spree2kawhi** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:41 am

HEZI wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:
Nah, prisoner of the moment. Randle for GSW with Steph will look twice as better as he was last season. And Wiggings gonna be worse than Fournier.

Can't compare Knicks to Warriors so this logic is misplaced.

We should entertain trading him there for a couple of their really young prospects, not Wiggins though. Randle would also be great for them next to Draymond.

We can entertain all we want they would never trade anything, especially one of the best two way wings in the league in Wiggins, to us for Randle

Not Wiggins as in “not Wiggins though”.

Montmorencie · Post #1038 » by **Montmorencie** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:07 am

knicks94 wrote:Nets almost beat the Suns without Harden having a good game.They are definitely the heavy favorite to represent the East in the finals.

Harden hasn't had a good game for a year now. This is what they gonna get from him. Don't act like this is an exception.

They were down 20+ twice. Suns just stopped playing.

Nets are 0-6 against top teams. They ain't passing second round without Kyrie. He is the driving force of this team. KD is the best player in the world probably(or second to Giannis) but he ain't leading them.

spree2kawhi · Post #1039 » by **spree2kawhi** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:26 am

Montmorencie wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Nets almost beat the Suns without Harden having a good game.They are definitely the heavy favorite to represent the East in the finals.

Harden hasn't had a good game for a year now. This is what they gonna get from him. Don't act like this is an exception.

They were down 20+ twice. Suns just stopped playing.

Nets are 0-6 against top teams. They ain't passing second round without Kyrie. He is the driving force of this team. KD is the best player in the world probably(or second to Giannis) but he ain't leading them.

Any team with KD can reach the Finals. Same can be said about Harden actually if you look at all those past seasons. For now this is in fact clearly an exception. I know what you mean, but you have to give such a player the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe they could trade Harden to the Lakers for Russ and Ariza or Nunn lol. Or Kyrie for Russ … good times …

Montmorencie · Post #1040 » by **Montmorencie** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:02 am

spree2kawhi wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Nets almost beat the Suns without Harden having a good game.They are definitely the heavy favorite to represent the East in the finals.

Harden hasn't had a good game for a year now. This is what they gonna get from him. Don't act like this is an exception.

They were down 20+ twice. Suns just stopped playing.

Nets are 0-6 against top teams. They ain't passing second round without Kyrie. He is the driving force of this team. KD is the best player in the world probably(or second to Giannis) but he ain't leading them.

Any team with KD can reach the Finals. Same can be said about Harden actually if you look at all those past seasons. For now this is in fact clearly an exception. I know what you mean, but you have to give such a player the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe they could trade Harden to the Lakers for Russ and Ariza or Nunn lol. Or Kyrie for Russ … good times …

Nah, players just eventually got washed, no need to deny that. Even great players. Melo got washed, we didn't believe it. Russ is washed, we didn't believe it. Now its James. Harden's had some serious injuries, the rules changes really did hurt him and it's been like that for a full year. This is not an exception, this is his standard now. A damn year since he was consider a superstar. And they were playing with KD and Kyrie then and he was just passing the ball and throwing lobs, not the James from Houston.

KD can't carry them by himself this year. East is just too damn strong. Bucks, Heat,healthy Phily with Embiid and something in return for Simmons. These are untouchable without Kyrie and unless James transforms into his Rockets himself. Which is not happening imo. Bulls, Hawks, Hornets - totally capable to upset them in their current state.