ImageImageImageImageImage

This team needs Ben Simmons

Moderators: Deeeez Knicks, Capn'O, K-DOT, mrpoetryNmotion, GONYK, j4remi, Jeff Van Gully, King of Canada, Thugger HBC, mpharris36, NoLayupRule

nyk2017
Sophomore
Posts: 246
And1: 181
Joined: Jul 19, 2017
 

This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#1 » by nyk2017 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:58 am

After watching the past 10 games, it is clear that we are not is a slump but there are fundamental problems with this team. Number one on the list is the inability to breakdown the defense with dribble penetration. We have the shooters, but passing the ball on the perimeter and hitting the 3 is not offense. We should trade Ben Simmons for Randle, 2 FRP's and maybe even throw in Grimes if needed. Ben Simmons for all his faults will penetrate and breakdown the defense and get open shots for Fournier, Kemba, Quickley and maybe even Barrett. Otherwise this team is no better than a 500 team and once the league figures out how to defend them, maybe not even that.
User avatar
vallen
RealGM
Posts: 10,725
And1: 2,888
Joined: Jan 31, 2005
       

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#2 » by vallen » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:14 am

k..
There's something about an underdog that really inspires the unexceptional.
User avatar
Angryfatboy
RealGM
Posts: 29,343
And1: 19,783
Joined: Jan 12, 2013
Location: Queens, NY

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#3 » by Angryfatboy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:32 am

Yes sirrrrrrr

Kemba
Fournier
Barret
Randle
Simmons
Miami Heat Baf: where tanking happens

PG:Josh giddey
SG:Quentin Grimes
SF:Jaden McDaniels
PF:Lauri markannen
C: Dwight Howard



Trade Block: Kemba walker, Luke kennard, Dwight Howard, wiseman + more
User avatar
iLLmatic860
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,013
And1: 7,631
Joined: Jan 23, 2013
Location: 860 CT
     

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#4 » by iLLmatic860 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:38 am

I’m down for the experiment

What would Philly want for him?
User avatar
Little Italia
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,090
And1: 866
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Location: Your house, rent free.
     

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#5 » by Little Italia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:45 am

ugh...
Image

"New York Knicks will never win a championship with James Dolan at the helm. Off with his head!!"




Comfortably numb Knick fans[/u][/i]
User avatar
DaGawd
RealGM
Posts: 23,052
And1: 24,031
Joined: Mar 11, 2014
Location: Queens, NY
     

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#6 » by DaGawd » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:48 am

Doubt they want Barrett
BaF Roster
Washington Wizards
Spoiler:

Miles McBride
PJ Dozier
BJ Boston
Danilo Gallinari
Hassan Whiteside
Galvationknicks
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,543
And1: 420
Joined: Jul 25, 2008

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#7 » by Galvationknicks » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:56 am

Simmons for IQ obi Burks 2 #1s?
Im still hurting from the Ewing trade. Worst trade in Knick history!!!
Knicks +37 wins Book it for 2009 season. Just so wrong on this :(
Knicks +42 wins Book it for 2010 season.
User avatar
TheGreenArrow
RealGM
Posts: 14,006
And1: 12,861
Joined: Sep 13, 2017

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#8 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 am

Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
HarthorneWingo
Knicks Forum Grandpa's Law
Posts: 73,511
And1: 37,843
Joined: May 16, 2005
   

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#9 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:52 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We already have Burks, we don’t need Milton. But we can take Thybulle.
User avatar
Chanel Bomber
RealGM
Posts: 11,961
And1: 18,457
Joined: Sep 20, 2018
 

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#10 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:21 am

You trade for Simmons you need a stretch 5, a point guard who can shoot, and wings who can play without the ball.

And also an innovative coach to get the best out of him, ideally.

Randle doesn't fit with Simmons at all so you probably put him in the package.

Rose
IQ
Burks
Simmons
Obi/Noel

An improvement but they're not exactly world-beaters.
Image
The Knicks Rewarded Mediocrity. Now They Are Stuck In It. - 18 Nov 2021
New article on http://www.theknicksaredoomed.com
TexasMassacre
Sophomore
Posts: 169
And1: 171
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
 

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#11 » by TexasMassacre » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:04 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Why do you yell all the time?
User avatar
gavran
RealGM
Posts: 15,884
And1: 5,636
Joined: Nov 02, 2005
Location: crossing the line

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#12 » by gavran » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:15 am

TexasMassacre wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Why do you yell all the time?


Because he has nothing to say.
KnicksGadfly
General Manager
Posts: 9,776
And1: 6,339
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
Location: Rent Free
   

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#13 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:15 am

Y’all got a plan for getting Ben vaxxed too?
The mission: to end false narratives about the Knicks
User avatar
br7knicks
Knicks Forum The Professor
Posts: 33,303
And1: 9,324
Joined: Dec 01, 2008
     

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#14 » by br7knicks » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:39 am

RIP, magnumt '19
BAF Streams: https://www.twitch.tv/br7knicks

PG: Nunn/Jackson/MCW
SG: Ross/Lamb/Valentine
SF: Butler//K Morris
PF: Hayward/C Morris/Chriss
C: Horford/WCS/Bradley
User avatar
god shammgod
Knicks Forum Crazy Board Uncle
Posts: 116,029
And1: 88,636
Joined: Feb 18, 2006
Location: Knicks the new Orlando
 

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#15 » by god shammgod » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:29 pm

not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.
Image
HerSports85
RealGM
Posts: 14,289
And1: 16,505
Joined: Dec 22, 2011

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#16 » by HerSports85 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:35 pm

god shammgod wrote:not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.


just for the sake of knowing, I wanted to know if Randle name was on it.
BAF: Chicago Bulls

PG: Damien Lillard | Trey Burks
SG: Garrett Temple | Shake Milton
SF: Kawhi Leonard | DeAndre Bembry
PF: Carmelo Anthony | Maurice Harkless
C: Montrezl Harrell | Daniel Thesis
User avatar
prophet_of_rage
RealGM
Posts: 14,637
And1: 5,253
Joined: Jan 06, 2005

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#17 » by prophet_of_rage » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:36 pm

nyk2017 wrote:After watching the past 10 games, it is clear that we are not is a slump but there are fundamental problems with this team. Number one on the list is the inability to breakdown the defense with dribble penetration. We have the shooters, but passing the ball on the perimeter and hitting the 3 is not offense. We should trade Ben Simmons for Randle, 2 FRP's and maybe even throw in Grimes if needed. Ben Simmons for all his faults will penetrate and breakdown the defense and get open shots for Fournier, Kemba, Quickley and maybe even Barrett. Otherwise this team is no better than a 500 team and once the league figures out how to defend them, maybe not even that.
Simmons penetration is meaningless if he's scared of being fouled.

Sent from my SM-N970W using Tapatalk
User avatar
Deeeez Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 36,886
And1: 26,208
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
Location: Bar stool

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#18 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:02 pm

He folded under the pressure in Philly. No way he handles the pressure in NY. He needs a small market

Plus he is not vaxxed so can't play here anyway.
Mavs
Nikola Jokic | Maxi Kleber
Giannis | Dario Saric
Mikal Bridges | Justin Holiday
Marcus Smart | Eric Gordon
Kyle Lowry | Derrick White

Reserves
House
Len
Mays
Samanic
Santi Aldama
Didi
Dev Dotson
Ponds
User avatar
Are We Ther Yet
RealGM
Posts: 10,436
And1: 8,234
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#19 » by Are We Ther Yet » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:42 pm

No
:beer: RIP mags
denterprise
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,018
And1: 978
Joined: Mar 15, 2004
     

Re: This team needs Ben Simmons 

Post#20 » by denterprise » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:55 pm

HerSports85 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.


just for the sake of knowing, I wanted to know if Randle name was on it.



I have to believe the 30 names are just starting points, with a player selected from each of the 30 teams. Given their current drama with Ben that would be the best course of action, to get as many teams as possible to believe they have a chance and raise Ben's stock. They may as well play the long game because right now Ben is toxic and they are not going to get what they believe he is worth.

Return to New York Knicks