This team needs Ben Simmons

nyk2017 · Post #1 » by **nyk2017** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:58 am

After watching the past 10 games, it is clear that we are not is a slump but there are fundamental problems with this team. Number one on the list is the inability to breakdown the defense with dribble penetration. We have the shooters, but passing the ball on the perimeter and hitting the 3 is not offense. We should trade Ben Simmons for Randle, 2 FRP's and maybe even throw in Grimes if needed. Ben Simmons for all his faults will penetrate and breakdown the defense and get open shots for Fournier, Kemba, Quickley and maybe even Barrett. Otherwise this team is no better than a 500 team and once the league figures out how to defend them, maybe not even that.

vallen · Post #2 » by **vallen** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:14 am

Angryfatboy · Post #3 » by **Angryfatboy** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:32 am

Yes sirrrrrrr

Kemba
Fournier
Barret
Randle
Simmons

iLLmatic860 · Post #4 » by **iLLmatic860** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:38 am

I’m down for the experiment

What would Philly want for him?

Little Italia · Post #5 » by **Little Italia** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:45 am

ugh...

DaGawd · Post #6 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:48 am

Doubt they want Barrett

Galvationknicks · Post #7 » by **Galvationknicks** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:56 am

Simmons for IQ obi Burks 2 #1s?

TheGreenArrow · Post #8 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 am

Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HarthorneWingo · Post #9 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:52 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We already have Burks, we don’t need Milton. But we can take Thybulle.

Chanel Bomber · Post #10 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:21 am

You trade for Simmons you need a stretch 5, a point guard who can shoot, and wings who can play without the ball.

And also an innovative coach to get the best out of him, ideally.

Randle doesn't fit with Simmons at all so you probably put him in the package.

Rose
IQ
Burks
Simmons
Obi/Noel

An improvement but they're not exactly world-beaters.

TexasMassacre · Post #11 » by **TexasMassacre** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:04 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you yell all the time?

gavran · Post #12 » by **gavran** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:15 am

TexasMassacre wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Rj & Randle plus a 1st for Ben and Milton!!!!!!

Obi, IQ & 3 1sts for Ingram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you yell all the time?

Because he has nothing to say.

KnicksGadfly · Post #13 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:15 am

Y’all got a plan for getting Ben vaxxed too?

br7knicks · Post #14 » by **br7knicks** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:39 am

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2116598

god shammgod · Post #15 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:29 pm

not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.

HerSports85 · Post #16 » by **HerSports85** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:35 pm

god shammgod wrote:not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.

just for the sake of knowing, I wanted to know if Randle name was on it.

prophet_of_rage · Post #17 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:36 pm

nyk2017 wrote:After watching the past 10 games, it is clear that we are not is a slump but there are fundamental problems with this team. Number one on the list is the inability to breakdown the defense with dribble penetration. We have the shooters, but passing the ball on the perimeter and hitting the 3 is not offense. We should trade Ben Simmons for Randle, 2 FRP's and maybe even throw in Grimes if needed. Ben Simmons for all his faults will penetrate and breakdown the defense and get open shots for Fournier, Kemba, Quickley and maybe even Barrett. Otherwise this team is no better than a 500 team and once the league figures out how to defend them, maybe not even that.

Simmons penetration is meaningless if he's scared of being fouled.

Sent from my SM-N970W using Tapatalk

Post #18 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:02 pm

He folded under the pressure in Philly. No way he handles the pressure in NY. He needs a small market

Plus he is not vaxxed so can't play here anyway.

Are We Ther Yet · Post #19 » by **Are We Ther Yet** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:42 pm

denterprise · Post #20 » by **denterprise** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:55 pm

HerSports85 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:not gonna happen. they made a list of 30 names. i guarantee you that no knick's name is on that list.

just for the sake of knowing, I wanted to know if Randle name was on it.

I have to believe the 30 names are just starting points, with a player selected from each of the 30 teams. Given their current drama with Ben that would be the best course of action, to get as many teams as possible to believe they have a chance and raise Ben's stock. They may as well play the long game because right now Ben is toxic and they are not going to get what they believe he is worth.