Knicks Draft Trevor Keels 42nd Overall

Post #1 » by **DOT** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:43 am

Read on Twitter

dukeknicksirish · Post #2 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:44 am

Keels has that DOG in him. I like that Bane comparison

Bob Ross · Post #3 » by **Bob Ross** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:45 am

F*ckin whatever

CptCrunch · Post #4 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:46 am

I am Keels' biggest fan

I see him as a lotto pick.

He was Duke's 3rd best prospect right after Williams.

islanders11040 · Post #5 » by **islanders11040** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47 am

at least i can watch someones highlights after sinking 4 hrs :lol:

SkyMason21 · Post #6 » by **SkyMason21** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:49 am

Like Keels. Definitely would have preferred they swing on Kendall Brown or Josh Minott, but can't really complain. He fits our style and if he gets back to shooting like he did in High school he'll be solid.

islanders11040 · Post #7 » by **islanders11040** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:57 am

Watch on YouTube

I like the way he attacks the hoop

El Poochio · Post #8 » by **El Poochio** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:59 am

Welcome Baby Zion

poeman · Post #9 » by **poeman** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:00 am

So this guy gonna get minutes after we trade Randle, yeah?

Juggynaut · Post #10 » by **Juggynaut** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:03 am

He's better than AJ Griffin, so I guess that's a positive.

SelbyCobra · Post #11 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 am

CptCrunch wrote:I am Keels' biggest fan

I see him as a lotto pick.

He was Duke's 3rd best prospect right after Williams.

ctorres · Post #12 » by **ctorres** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 am

Is Keels a better prospect than Miles McBride was? They're fighting for that 3rd string point guard spot since Burks, Quickley, D-Rose are still the best we got.

HEZI · Post #13 » by **HEZI** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:06 am

Ok I guess

CptCrunch · Post #14 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:12 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:I am Keels' biggest fan

I see him as a lotto pick.

He was Duke's 3rd best prospect right after Williams.

Quoting Dean

Keels is a massive weirdo as an unathletic combo guard. But he is one of the youngest players in the class, not turning 19 until after the draft in August and has some funky gravity to him.

In spite of his lack of burst, he has decent craft at getting to the rim and finishing. He is also a good passer and decision maker and posted an excellent 2.18 A:TO ratio as an 18 year old freshman.

His freshman shooting was underwhelming at 31.2% 3P 67% FT, but he took a high rate of 3PA and looks like a confident shooter. In light of his age, it seems like he should be a capable 3 point shooter in the NBA and he has some potential to be a good shooter if he develops well over time.

Defensively he has questions as he is slow and beatable off the dribble, and does not always have the best awareness. But his instincts and intuition are overall decent, and he is capable of getting in the passing lanes and being disruptive. He definitely has a risk of being a liability defensively in the NBA, but he also has clear outs to figure it out and be competent.

Keels’ main selling point is his ability to create a moderate volume of offense without turning it over. In this regard he is like a Monte Morris who is 2.25″ taller (6’4.75″), 3.25″ longer (6’7.25″) and 49 pounds heavier at a beefy 224 in spite of his youth. That’s some significant size boosts to a decent rotation player.

If we really want to turn up the optimism, it is difficult to find a strong comp considering how unique his distribution of traits are. But he has some parallels to Tyrese Haliburton. Keels is beefier, not as athletic, and has a long way to go to catch up as a shooter, but Haliburton did not get much draft hype either as a freshman who averaged 6.8 points 3.6 assists 0.8 turnovers for Iowa State. But then Haliburton made a sophomore leap, and he was a steal at #12 overall in the draft.

Fat · Post #15 » by **Fat** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:14 am

He thick

CptCrunch · Post #16 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:18 am

Watch on YouTube

Here is a highlight of Keels making TyTy his nephew

SelbyCobra · Post #17 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:24 am

CptCrunch wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:I am Keels' biggest fan

I see him as a lotto pick.

He was Duke's 3rd best prospect right after Williams.

Quoting Dean

Keels is a massive weirdo as an unathletic combo guard. But he is one of the youngest players in the class, not turning 19 until after the draft in August and has some funky gravity to him.

In spite of his lack of burst, he has decent craft at getting to the rim and finishing. He is also a good passer and decision maker and posted an excellent 2.18 A:TO ratio as an 18 year old freshman.

His freshman shooting was underwhelming at 31.2% 3P 67% FT, but he took a high rate of 3PA and looks like a confident shooter. In light of his age, it seems like he should be a capable 3 point shooter in the NBA and he has some potential to be a good shooter if he develops well over time.

Defensively he has questions as he is slow and beatable off the dribble, and does not always have the best awareness. But his instincts and intuition are overall decent, and he is capable of getting in the passing lanes and being disruptive. He definitely has a risk of being a liability defensively in the NBA, but he also has clear outs to figure it out and be competent.

Keels’ main selling point is his ability to create a moderate volume of offense without turning it over. In this regard he is like a Monte Morris who is 2.25″ taller (6’4.75″), 3.25″ longer (6’7.25″) and 49 pounds heavier at a beefy 224 in spite of his youth. That’s some significant size boosts to a decent rotation player.

If we really want to turn up the optimism, it is difficult to find a strong comp considering how unique his distribution of traits are. But he has some parallels to Tyrese Haliburton. Keels is beefier, not as athletic, and has a long way to go to catch up as a shooter, but Haliburton did not get much draft hype either as a freshman who averaged 6.8 points 3.6 assists 0.8 turnovers for Iowa State. But then Haliburton made a sophomore leap, and he was a steal at #12 overall in the draft.

Very interesting, I appreciate deeper-dive prospects that fall because they're unconventional and are also super young. I'm good with it. Reminds me in some ways of Grimes.

ctorres · Post #18 » by **ctorres** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:26 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:

Quoting Dean

Keels is a massive weirdo as an unathletic combo guard. But he is one of the youngest players in the class, not turning 19 until after the draft in August and has some funky gravity to him.

In spite of his lack of burst, he has decent craft at getting to the rim and finishing. He is also a good passer and decision maker and posted an excellent 2.18 A:TO ratio as an 18 year old freshman.

His freshman shooting was underwhelming at 31.2% 3P 67% FT, but he took a high rate of 3PA and looks like a confident shooter. In light of his age, it seems like he should be a capable 3 point shooter in the NBA and he has some potential to be a good shooter if he develops well over time.

Defensively he has questions as he is slow and beatable off the dribble, and does not always have the best awareness. But his instincts and intuition are overall decent, and he is capable of getting in the passing lanes and being disruptive. He definitely has a risk of being a liability defensively in the NBA, but he also has clear outs to figure it out and be competent.

Keels’ main selling point is his ability to create a moderate volume of offense without turning it over. In this regard he is like a Monte Morris who is 2.25″ taller (6’4.75″), 3.25″ longer (6’7.25″) and 49 pounds heavier at a beefy 224 in spite of his youth. That’s some significant size boosts to a decent rotation player.

If we really want to turn up the optimism, it is difficult to find a strong comp considering how unique his distribution of traits are. But he has some parallels to Tyrese Haliburton. Keels is beefier, not as athletic, and has a long way to go to catch up as a shooter, but Haliburton did not get much draft hype either as a freshman who averaged 6.8 points 3.6 assists 0.8 turnovers for Iowa State. But then Haliburton made a sophomore leap, and he was a steal at #12 overall in the draft.

Very interesting, I appreciate deeper-dive prospects that fall because they're unconventional and are also super young. I'm good with it. Reminds me in some ways of Grimes.

Grimes was taken in the 1st round though.

Keels would be more like McBride, both early 2nd rounders.

CptCrunch · Post #19 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:29 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:

Quoting Dean

Keels is a massive weirdo as an unathletic combo guard. But he is one of the youngest players in the class, not turning 19 until after the draft in August and has some funky gravity to him.

In spite of his lack of burst, he has decent craft at getting to the rim and finishing. He is also a good passer and decision maker and posted an excellent 2.18 A:TO ratio as an 18 year old freshman.

His freshman shooting was underwhelming at 31.2% 3P 67% FT, but he took a high rate of 3PA and looks like a confident shooter. In light of his age, it seems like he should be a capable 3 point shooter in the NBA and he has some potential to be a good shooter if he develops well over time.

Defensively he has questions as he is slow and beatable off the dribble, and does not always have the best awareness. But his instincts and intuition are overall decent, and he is capable of getting in the passing lanes and being disruptive. He definitely has a risk of being a liability defensively in the NBA, but he also has clear outs to figure it out and be competent.

Keels’ main selling point is his ability to create a moderate volume of offense without turning it over. In this regard he is like a Monte Morris who is 2.25″ taller (6’4.75″), 3.25″ longer (6’7.25″) and 49 pounds heavier at a beefy 224 in spite of his youth. That’s some significant size boosts to a decent rotation player.

If we really want to turn up the optimism, it is difficult to find a strong comp considering how unique his distribution of traits are. But he has some parallels to Tyrese Haliburton. Keels is beefier, not as athletic, and has a long way to go to catch up as a shooter, but Haliburton did not get much draft hype either as a freshman who averaged 6.8 points 3.6 assists 0.8 turnovers for Iowa State. But then Haliburton made a sophomore leap, and he was a steal at #12 overall in the draft.

Very interesting, I appreciate deeper-dive prospects that fall because they're unconventional and are also super young. I'm good with it. Reminds me in some ways of Grimes.

Basically the argument is that Keels played too well for someone that young for a top P5 program. He didn't get the benefit of doubt that his fellow young-buddy Duren got because he is fat (and Duren chiseled like a Greek god). Fat is not a huge issue if the body type can be fixed. If Keels was chiseled, he wouldn't be drafted in the second round.

SelbyCobra · Post #20 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:31 am

ctorres wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:
Quoting Dean

Very interesting, I appreciate deeper-dive prospects that fall because they're unconventional and are also super young. I'm good with it. Reminds me in some ways of Grimes.

Grimes was taken in the 1st round though.

Keels would be more like McBride, both early 2nd rounders.

I meant more from a general, he would have been drafted higher if his physical traits/appearance/attributes were more conventional or enticing, and the deeper dive on his production tells a different story than the traditional numbers.