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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

The Washington Wizards have agreed to trade Kira Lewis Jr. to the Toronto Raptors in exchange for Darius Bazley, a 2023 2nd round draft pick (From Washington*) and a 2024 2nd round draft pick (From San Antonio).

The San Antonio Spurs have agreed to trade Darius Bazley and a 2023 2nd round draft pick (From Washington*) to the Washington Wizards along with Bismack Biyombo, Tyus Jones and a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Washington) to the Toronto Raptors and a 2025 1st round draft pick (From Toronto) to the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for Mitchell Robinson, Josh Green, Trevor Keels, Jose Alvarado and a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Denver).

The Toronto Raptors have agreed to trade Mitchell Robinson, Josh Green and Jose Alvarado to the San Antonio Spurs along with a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Indiana) and a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Milwaukee**) to the Orlando Magic in exchange for Kira Lewis Jr., Bismack Biyombo, Tyus Jones, a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Washington) and a 2025 1st round draft pick (From Portland).

The Minnesota Timberwolves have agreed to trade Trevor Keels to the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for a 2025 1st round draft pick (From Toronto).

The Orlando Magic have agreed to trade a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Denver) to the San Antonio Spurs, a 2025 1st round draft pick (From Portland) to the Toronto Raptors and a 2024 2nd round draft pick (From San Antonio) to the Washington Wizards in exchange for a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Indiana) and a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Milwaukee**).

*- Washington regains control of their pick.

**- Orlando now has complete control of the Milwaukee 2024 1st round pick as well as their own 2025 1st round pick.

Oh wow

Might as well jump in the tank too, Spurs just put the nail in the coffin on everyone’s season

How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

And this, my friends, is why I decided not to go all in this year.

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

I traded the chance at wemby for a 2.5 star player and a couple 1.5 star players...what am I doing!!!

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

Did you miss that Washington's first is included?

It is what it is.

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

Toronto did get the Washington pick so that’s great value for them considering what he gave up. Spurs pick up win now pieces and Toronto adds a great value pick to the cupboard but man I don’t know how anybody can beat the Spurs right now they are loaded

Capn'O wrote:

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

Did you miss that Washington's first is included?

It is what it is.

I thought people would be happy now I don't have a chance at the#1 pick.

Finally Spurs are bereft of assets

Also back to the discussion with Fatboy again I don't dislike this move but I dislike the fact it's going to work because of our horrible FA rating system.

1. Franchise success in a three year period. 2. Star player. 3. Player happiness. 4. Future (youth+draft picks).

Fatboy has moderate 3 year success because prior to his takeover Miami was winning.

He has one of if not the best player in the sim.

Player happiness is probably going to be terrible.

Future is going to be high because he's TANKING for youth and picks.

This shouldn't even be remotely helpful for his team. If we go by my strategy he gets zero help from tanking, sitting Embiid lowers his star player rating because he most likely misses the All NBA team and only makes the All Star Game, and player happiness is in the pits. His cap space would also not be highly rated since he can't add any more stars to that roster. The GM rating would most likely be low because he's unproven and tanking.

I just want a system that doesn't favor tankers over teams that compete and fall short. That's not what we have.

mpharris36 wrote:

Capn'O wrote:

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

Did you miss that Washington's first is included?

It is what it is.

I thought people would be happy now I don't have a chance at the#1 pick.

Honestly not as bad as I feared.

Capn'O wrote:

E-Balla wrote:How in the **** y'all keep giving MPH all these players for nothing? It's collusion is what it is, ain't no way.

Did you miss that Washington's first is included?

It is what it is.

Yeah I definitely missed that lol. Take it back. I'm happy 2010 got it.

Capn'O wrote:

mpharris36 wrote:

Capn'O wrote:
Did you miss that Washington's first is included?

It is what it is.

I thought people would be happy now I don't have a chance at the#1 pick.

Honestly not as bad as I feared.

Well it's still only odds of getting the pick. I could have held it and if it landed on wemby or scoot the value would have been through the roof but like you said if it doesn't it's not as valuable so the trade value I thought was hedging someone in between.

Context rn now:

Capn'O wrote:And this, my friends, is why I decided not to go all in this year.

Meh. I like a challenge. MPH will be even better next year when Bane, Curry, and Jokic are all improved. This is the year to win if you don't want to watch the MPH 4peat happen. I'm all in now, after this year it's back to building for the future (that's why I got all these 5 year deals lol).

E-Balla wrote:

El Poochio wrote:

E-Balla wrote:To be honest tank or not you need to be good in this sim. Again my only issue is that the FA ratings don't punish tankers nearly enough. I pushed hard to have a good FA rating last year, won 43 games upsetting what people expected, and had a bottom 5 FA rating for it. That was some SUPER bull. Under no circumstances should tankers be over competitive teams in FA ratings.

We can do that too but I am sure Washington Wizards (just an example) wouldnt care about that teams FA rating who stole higher draft seed from them, so it doesnt really solve the issue

WYM? What teams FA rating are you talking about? If you think I'm trying to stop tanking I'm not. I'm trying to punish tankers. As is tankers AREN'T punished for it. The idea they're punished for it in the FA ratings is completely false when looking at the categories:

1. Franchise success in a three year period. 2. Star player. 3. Player happiness. 4. Future (youth+draft picks).

A tanking teams already have a leg up in 25% of what factors into FA ratings, and that's a 25% that in real life no actual free agent takes into account. No one is taking a pay cut to go play with OKC because they have SGA (a star) and a bunch of picks but in BaF they'd have a middle of the pack (maybe higher) FA rating. If we want realism the categories should be:

1. Franchise success in a 3 year period. 2. Star players - and it should be based on BAF all league accolades and BAF all star games not an arbitrary rating of players. 3. Player happiness weighted 2 times stronger than other categories. 5. Available cap space (players will eyeball a squad with the ability to add multiple stars). 6. GM ability - this is more controversial, but I think as a group we all know there's tiers of GMs and players care much more about that than whether or not a team has future draft capital.

I'll also add in that I've noticed other **** that has me questioning the sim too. Look at certain rosters and their real life coaches. Look at their in game results. Does bish equalize coaches around the league so we all have teams playing at the exact same level regardless of the sim? After seeing Pop win COTY I doubt it (I'm not saying MPH doesn't have the best squad - just that Pop as coach while I got Mark Daigneault makes them unbeatable). Bish has never posted coach ratings tho so I can't say if they have much of an impact. I just peeped that when COTY was given our it was determined internally by the sim and idk what goes into it all.

I agree we can put more measures to hurt tanking teams in FA but what I am saying is major affected party by those tankers (real bad teams) wouldnt care about those punishments as they are still getting screwed over. Forfeiting those picks will give back those teams rightful draft seed, like we do when we dont post teams power ranking position when they do not send in theirs. In reality no one would dare so there wont be any forfeits anyway

E-Balla wrote:

mpharris36 wrote:

3toheadmelo wrote:

The numbers back the ratings though. RJ was putting up over 12 a game and Vassell was only putting up 8. He also started the season with Porter starting, once his team started to win he tried to tank on the low and benched Porter for Patrick Williams who was buns in the SIM. Acquired RJ later and had him on the bench too. Still no luck to lose. He said it himself, the team surprised him.

RJ played 30 minutes off my bench and avg 36% from the field and 27% from 3...but yes I should have started him over a guy that shot 38% from 3 and had 80 DEF rating in the SIM.

Makes a ton of sense...

Hey Melo this is starting to make sense the further the conversation goes you might wanna drop it lol.

POWER RANKINGS as of 1/27

1. San Antonio Spurs (43-5) 0
2. Oklahoma City Thunder (39-11) +1
3. Charlotte Hornets (38-11) -1
4. Indiana Pacers (34-15) 0
5. Denver Nuggets (33-16) 0
6. Portland Trailblazers (31-19) +1
7. Dallas Mavericks (33-16) -1
8. Los Angeles Clippers (32-18) +2
9. Golden State Warriors (31-19) -1
10. Cleveland Cavaliers (30-20) -1

If you still ain't learn those star ratings aren't a measure of who's a better player you'll keep underachieving. The sim might play higher star ratings over better fits, but we're supposed to be smarter than that. I'm #2 in the league with multiple 3.5 stars leading my squad. Hypothetically someone benched Kyrie and KAT for CP3 and Allen you'd call it a tank but they'd win more games.

You not following the convo. What you're doing is intentional to win. Like how you studied Wiseman and other dudes for Moses Brown and Allen. This man just said he did not expect to win and he was suprised he had a hot start. And then benching Porter for Pat Williams after he started hot as a panic move to tank is too sus. You wasn't even here for this.

I got two finals appearances, one chip, one bubble chip. If that's considered an underchiever then i'll gladly accept that

We need to get a BAT started to kill the time until 2028? Hopefully MPH reign is over by then Mitch is a sim beast

2010 did really well with his wheeling n dealing to land on Wiz pick, that is a golden ticket to a cheap young franchise player