As this team is currently constructed would you trade Randle for Porzingis straight up?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Sure thing. Subtract an all star that puts up 25 PPG and 4 APG and see if the team gets better.

The Warriors got rid of 25.5ppg 5apg Monta Ellis and got better.


There are several instances in NBA history where a team removed a player with nice stats for someone with lesser ones and the team got better.

The warriors got better because they got Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.

They already had those guys when Monta was on the team, they got rid of 25ppg for less raw production and then improved because the defense got better and ball movement improved by light years.


Also, funny you mention Draymond, since he was coming off the bench for David Lee who was an all-star and averaging 20/10/3 for them. They replaced 20/10/3 with 11/8/6 and got better, which shouldn't be possible because the raw stats are all that matters, right?

I'm not for replacing Randle with Kristaps, too much of an injury risk, but just posting Randle's stats means absolutely nothing. Sometimes you can remove the raw production and improve because the defense & ball movement pick up, so addition by subtraction in the NBA is a real thing, as it's happened several times before.

[cgmw]

In a KP S&T the team signing and trading him generally has mich less leverage because the player is not under contract any longer.

KP will NOT cost a cost effective JR who averaged 25 and 10 last year on a sub 30M dollar contract for any sign and trade.

You turn around and then trade Randle and/or RJ for something else.

If you can pickup a couple legit 3&D role player at the wing to go with KP, Randle, and Brunson then maybe you have something.

KP | Hartenstein
Randle | warm body
3&D starter | 3&D backup
Grimes | Hart
Brunson | Deuce

If the core is KP, Brunson, Randle then the other two starters need to be comfortable making all 10 of their points off catch/shoot threes.

[Chanel Bomber]

Sure thing. Subtract an all star that puts up 25 PPG and 4 APG and see if the team gets better.

The Warriors got rid of 25.5ppg 5apg Monta Ellis and got better.


There are several instances in NBA history where a team removed a player with nice stats for someone with lesser ones and the team got better.

The warriors got better because they got Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.

And because they got more of the shots that Monta Ellis could no longer take away from them.

Inefficient scorers are a burden for an offense. That was Monta's profile.

[KnixinSix]

That is why if you think RJ will continue to be an inefficient scorer you trade him away now.

I still think a hybrid role for KAT is what is best.

Give Mitch 32 minutes at C with KAT the other 16
Give Randle 32 at PF with KAT as the other 16

Its all about minutes and all 3 of those guys would get 32 minutes on the floor in that scenario

The problem with KAT with most minutes at the 5 is we don't have the rim protection that was critical to running Thibs protect the paint and collapse on the 3 system

[NoStatsGuy]

lol wat?

no way, whoever does this trade is purely driven by emotions. KP is not a thibs players, he will break down by january.

[DrCoach]

No

KP is not durable

[Stannis]

The Warriors got rid of 25.5ppg 5apg Monta Ellis and got better.


There are several instances in NBA history where a team removed a player with nice stats for someone with lesser ones and the team got better.

The warriors got better because they got Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.

And because they got more of the shots that Monta Ellis could no longer take away from them.

Inefficient scorers are a burden for an offense. That was Monta's profile.

Draymond Green starting when David Lee got injured was also a game changer.

I hate to be salty lol but w/e. But it's amazing how lucky the GSW FO got. I think they were really trying to build thinking Ellis and DLee were going to be their top players.