How much is too much for IQ?

RHODEY · Post #1 » by **RHODEY** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:14 pm

Post #2 » by **GONYK** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:18 pm

His ceiling is 4/100M, but that's banking on continued improvement.

His production definitely is worth $20M/yr in the new rising cap

Post #3 » by **dakomish23** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:20 pm

He wants to start. And his starter numbers are big money worthy considering his age.

21 games
22.6 PPG 5.4 RPG 5.1 APG
47% 40% 85%

He flamed out big time in the playoffs but we can’t downplay how good of a year he had. I could see a few teams throwing big dollars at him if we let him look for an offer

ctorres · Post #4 » by **ctorres** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:28 pm

more than $20 million a season

at that point he's getting paid as much as Jalen Brunson and RJ Barrett

Is he better than them? Don't know, maybe he could be?

Is he legitimately better than Quentin Grimes?

Would the Knicks be better if Quickley was starting at SG and Grimes was coming off the bench?

I have so many questions!

Iron Mantis · Post #5 » by **Iron Mantis** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:53 pm

Too much?

Anything more than $18 mil daddy..

Want more, get shipped out. We trying to build a contender here.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #6 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:08 pm

He's better than I think he is, but not as good as quite a few posters think. He has improved his body in a way I didn't anticipate.

Is he worth 15% of the salary cap? 18%? Those are about 60% and 75% of the second contract max. The cap is projected to be $134m. So 15%, resp. 18% of that is $20m, resp $24m.

So, yeah, he's probably worth 15% of the cap. Somewhere between there and 18%. So I'll vote 22.5m is too much ... although a little more might not be bad. I don't think you pay 25m

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #7 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:10 pm

I mean, I'm of the view that the Mitch, Brunson and even Randle contracts were absurdly good value. (And the RJ deal was an abomination, but that's a different topic.)

KnicksGadfly · Post #8 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:37 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I mean, I'm of the view that the Mitch, Brunson and even Randle contracts were absurdly good value. (And the RJ deal was an abomination, but that's a different topic.)

Yep you basically got it right. We also got Rose and Fournier taking up a bunch of cap space last season and doing nothing, and we’ve also gotten to the point where Brunson is seen as one of the best deals in the league - he’d probably get maxed this off-season if he were available.

NYKinMIA · Post #9 » by **NYKinMIA** » Tue May 30, 2023 12:02 am

Jalen Bluntson · Post #10 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue May 30, 2023 1:42 am

Jeremy Lin should be a lesson to anyone asking this question.

The cap numbers are different these days. He gets great 6 man money. Whatever that is these days. 22 games doesn't earn you a starting salary on my team. Especially when you sucked and got hurt when we needed you most. Rinse repeat

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #11 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:32 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:Jeremy Lin should be a lesson to anyone asking this question.

The cap numbers are different these days. He gets great 6 man money. Whatever that is these days. 22 games doesn't earn you a starting salary on my team. Especially when you sucked and got hurt when we needed you most. Rinse repeat

Meh. I generally love your comments but I don't see what JLin has to do with this.

However, we can solve: what is "great 6 man" money for you *in terms of a percentage of the salary cap*? Then we know.

Grinditout · Post #12 » by **Grinditout** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:44 am

Idk how you can have any leverage after the playoffs he had. Shouldnt overpay a bit.

Post #13 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:20 am

I'm thinking about 4-75 to 4-80 for both Quick & Josh Hart. As long as they don't go too much over that, I'm fine with it.

Adelheid · Post #14 » by **Adelheid** » Tue May 30, 2023 4:05 am

18m per or less is just about right

If he can provide real pg play then 20m+ per

rickxdel · Post #15 » by **rickxdel** » Tue May 30, 2023 4:38 am

After what we've seen of Quick in the playoffs 18M is the max I'd like to see, if he wants more than 20 the team should let him earn it first during next season

Jalen Bluntson · Post #16 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue May 30, 2023 9:32 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Jeremy Lin should be a lesson to anyone asking this question.

The cap numbers are different these days. He gets great 6 man money. Whatever that is these days. 22 games doesn't earn you a starting salary on my team. Especially when you sucked and got hurt when we needed you most. Rinse repeat

Meh. I generally love your comments but I don't see what JLin has to do with this.

However, we can solve: what is "great 6 man" money for you *in terms of a percentage of the salary cap*? Then we know.

Lin had a couple of good weeks and got that crazy contract from Houston. He was never that good after getting paid.

IQ has been as up and down as RJ. He filled in when we needed him for a short stretch. Then he disappeared.

Both players were injured and didn't help in the playoffs.

Let's see how well he plays next year before we worry about his salary.

rajajackal · Post #17 » by **rajajackal** » Tue May 30, 2023 11:17 am

iq is underrated here after the playoffs

HEZI · Post #18 » by **HEZI** » Tue May 30, 2023 11:57 am

thebuzzardman · Post #19 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue May 30, 2023 12:34 pm

What are the implications of giving IQ/Hart 40 million per with the new CBA?

I get Rose and Fournier are going away. After that, Obi and Grimes will be on deck for similar money?

Fat Kat · Post #20 » by **Fat Kat** » Tue May 30, 2023 1:21 pm

Tyler Herro signed an extension for 4/$120M. That’s probably what Quickley’s agent is angling for. I’d be comfortable with 4/$90M.