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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#61 » by WargamesX » Wed May 31, 2023 3:14 pm

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On the bolded, Mills was the one who was resistant to trading Mook. Mills got fired right before the trade deadline that year and Leon's first move was to trade Mook. I think that was more Leon coming in and demanding that happen than Perry pushing for that but I could be misremembering the timeline a bit.

If I remember correctly, the Knicks were very close to trading for D'Lo that deadline and I think actually had a trade in place while Dolan was secretly negotiating with Leon to take over. Mills was trying to save his job desperately :lol: . Once Dolan got word that this was happening he fired Mills before he could do more damage.


Gotta push back, the Morris trade happened 20 days before Leon officially took over. Marcus was traded on Feb 6th and Leon took over on Feb 26th. It was in the gap between Mill annd Leon and arguably is the one thing that can clearly be attributed to Perry. Before we heard about the D’lo rumor, we also heard there was internal conflict about trading Morris with Perry pushing to do it but like you said Mills wanting to keep his job and move picks to add D’lo.


Good call coming with the facts and dates. Didn't realize the gap was that long between Mills and Leon.


No problem, I just intensely remember that time because of how bad the team was and how stupid them not trading Morris was to me. To me that trade marks the beginning of the Knicks getting their act together. The D’lo rumors were 100% in line with what the Knicks would have traditionally had done prior.

Like I get Perry isn’t much liked here because he wasn’t perfect but to his credit he helped them Get right and I wish him luck on his future endeavors.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#62 » by DrCoach » Wed May 31, 2023 3:34 pm

WargamesX wrote:Perry did some solid things here

Brought in Randle as a FA
Pushed Mills into trading Morris to the pick that became Quickley
Drafted RJ
Drafted Robinson

I honestly think he had a solid run here and it won’t be long before he is hired elsewhere. People might be annoyed but he contributed to this team.



He was solid
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#63 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 31, 2023 3:46 pm

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WargamesX wrote:Perry did some solid things here

Brought in Randle as a FA
Pushed Mills into trading Morris to the pick that became Quickley
Drafted RJ
Drafted Robinson

I honestly think he had a solid run here and it won’t be long before he is hired elsewhere. People might be annoyed but he contributed to this team.


On the bolded, Mills was the one who was resistant to trading Mook. Mills got fired right before the trade deadline that year and Leon's first move was to trade Mook. I think that was more Leon coming in and demanding that happen than Perry pushing for that but I could be misremembering the timeline a bit.

If I remember correctly, the Knicks were very close to trading for D'Lo that deadline and I think actually had a trade in place while Dolan was secretly negotiating with Leon to take over. Mills was trying to save his job desperately :lol: . Once Dolan got word that this was happening he fired Mills before he could do more damage.


Gotta push back, the Morris trade happened 20 days before Leon officially took over. Marcus was traded on Feb 6th and Leon took over on Feb 26th. It was in the gap between Mill annd Leon and arguably is the one thing that can clearly be attributed to Perry. Before we heard about the D’lo rumor, we also heard there was internal conflict about trading Morris with Perry pushing to do it but like you said Mills wanting to keep his job and move picks to add D’lo.


I am sure Rose was already in place by then and gave the order. But credit due to Perry for the deal.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#64 » by Gravy » Wed May 31, 2023 3:50 pm

Shouldn't yall be praising him for being the only GM in Knicks history to do a full season tank. When Pop drafts pervs and tanks and gets the #1 pick he's a genius, when we tank we move down and people get fired and called idiots.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#65 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 31, 2023 5:08 pm

He did a good job with the Melo trade. What most considered a throw in turned into Mitch.

That’s about all the nice things I have to say about this dude.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#66 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 31, 2023 5:46 pm

My favorite Perry moves:

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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#67 » by BadNewsBarnes » Wed May 31, 2023 5:53 pm

Gravy wrote:Shouldn't yall be praising him for being the only GM in Knicks history to do a full season tank. When Pop drafts pervs and tanks and gets the #1 pick he's a genius, when we tank we move down and people get fired and called idiots.


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Post#68 » by Jose7 » Wed May 31, 2023 5:55 pm

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Post#69 » by Juco24 » Wed May 31, 2023 6:20 pm

He was better than Millstupid, Laydumb and Isaiah. Maybe that's not saying much, but when you've gone through life as a Knicks fan for the past 20+ years... it speaks volumes
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Post#70 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed May 31, 2023 10:32 pm

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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#71 » by GEOLINK » Wed May 31, 2023 10:55 pm

The Steve Mills era is officially over.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#72 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 31, 2023 11:04 pm

Gravy wrote:Shouldn't yall be praising him for being the only GM in Knicks history to do a full season tank. When Pop drafts pervs and tanks and gets the #1 pick he's a genius, when we tank we move down and people get fired and called idiots.


I accept your premise if it goes both ways - I could hold him accountable for not tanking in 2018 when the top of the draft was beyond loaded
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Post#73 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 31, 2023 11:13 pm

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Nothing Rose has done isn't without a plan or backup already in play.
Take last year as an example. It was a lost year for many reasons but the contingency was acquire additional picks for a play for both Brunson and DM.
That didn't work for the betterment of the collective team and went to the next plan.
And they ran it back.
IMO, the Scott Perry departure is an offer somewhere for Perry to get a much deserved Pres. of Operations or more opportunity .
I see a good term departure because Leon knew long in advance and helped it along I'm sure.
That Bob Myers' availabilty is coincidence? Haha, who knows.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#74 » by Capn'O » Wed May 31, 2023 11:28 pm

Zenzibar wrote:IMO, the Scott Perry departure is an offer somewhere for Perry to get a much deserved Pres. of Operations or more opportunity. I see a good term departure because Leon knew long in advance and helped it along I'm sure.
That Bob Myers' availabilty is coincidence? Haha, who knows.


I imagine it was on good terms as well. It would be wild if he ended up in GS.
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Post#75 » by Adelheid » Wed May 31, 2023 11:55 pm

they have kirk lacob and mike dunleavy jr there to replace Myers
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Post#76 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:09 am

That’s fair but just don’t hire the consultant
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Post#77 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:13 am

Gotta respect Perry for helping us keep our draft picks etc. 1 year deal teams sucks but he was solid building our draft stock.
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Post#78 » by Gravy » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:43 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Gravy wrote:Shouldn't yall be praising him for being the only GM in Knicks history to do a full season tank. When Pop drafts pervs and tanks and gets the #1 pick he's a genius, when we tank we move down and people get fired and called idiots.


I accept your premise if it goes both ways - I could hold him accountable for not tanking in 2018 when the top of the draft was beyond loaded

They were supposed to be tanking that year, the roster was terrible but KP had an allstar year and carried them the first half. Its like what happened with Ainge and the Jazz this season.
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Re: GM Scott Perry NOT returning 

Post#79 » by Zenzibar » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:25 am

Capn'O wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:IMO, the Scott Perry departure is an offer somewhere for Perry to get a much deserved Pres. of Operations or more opportunity. I see a good term departure because Leon knew long in advance and helped it along I'm sure.
That Bob Myers' availabilty is coincidence? Haha, who knows.


I imagine it was on good terms as well. It would be wild if he ended up in GS.



It would be perfect haha!

Seriously, I view Scott Perry with like a founding fathers of this young team. He put a hold to Steve Mills from trading 1st round picks away so when Phil got here he had 1st rounders to **** up. Lol
Still, Perry refused to part with #1s .
Salute for starting the young team theme and sticking to it.
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Post#80 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:16 am

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