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Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.

thebuzzardman wrote:I hope they lose so all the hand wringing, infighting, RJ bashing and dumb trade proposals continues apace
Reign23 wrote:
BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
Synciere wrote:BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
Maybe that's the best lineup because Thibs only uses it in certain situations?? I'm not sure what other reason it could be because Thibs clearly pays attention to things like net ratings...
thebuzzardman wrote:I hope they lose so all the hand wringing, infighting, RJ bashing and dumb trade proposals continues apace
BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
Spree2Houston wrote:BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
Lineup would challenge the 96 Bulls

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more
When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...
The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...
Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.
They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.

BKlutch wrote:Synciere wrote:BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup
https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail
According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
Maybe that's the best lineup because Thibs only uses it in certain situations?? I'm not sure what other reason it could be because Thibs clearly pays attention to things like net ratings...
I'm not sure, but one thought is that Thibs wants enough good players on the 2nd unit to make sure we gain ground when they're in, so he splits up some of the best players. That would be an interesting statistical comparison, if it were even possible to do. I doubt there would be enough minutes to clearly show that.

Spree2Houston wrote:Whatever you have to do, you do it just to get there
KnicksGadfly wrote:I don't buy the theory that this is a conspiracy to lower IQ's future salary. Thibs don't play with that. Man will play all his starters 48 minutes against a elementary school boys basketball team, get Brunson hurt in that game, and defend his reasoning while he celebrates a 500 point win.