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GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#1 » by Reign23 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:07 pm

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Post#2 » by BKlutch » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:09 pm

KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#3 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:42 pm

I hope they lose so all the hand wringing, infighting, RJ bashing and dumb trade proposals continues apace
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#4 » by DaGawd » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:46 pm

hopefully we win, i told some overly confident magic fan who thought they were better than the knicks they not on our level just yet… can’t wait to bump if we win.. :D
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#5 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:47 pm

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#6 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:48 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I hope they lose so all the hand wringing, infighting, RJ bashing and dumb trade proposals continues apace


I heard from an oracle we win, circle jerk and kumbayah
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Post#7 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:50 pm

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Every time I see that GIF it gets sillier and funnier. Knicks fans being tards, who knew?
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#8 » by Synciere » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:00 pm

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Maybe that's the best lineup because Thibs only uses it in certain situations?? I'm not sure what other reason it could be because Thibs clearly pays attention to things like net ratings...
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#9 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:02 pm

We still haven't retired #13 it's a disgrace

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Post#10 » by BKlutch » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:02 pm

Synciere wrote:
BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Maybe that's the best lineup because Thibs only uses it in certain situations?? I'm not sure what other reason it could be because Thibs clearly pays attention to things like net ratings...

I'm not sure, but one thought is that Thibs wants enough good players on the 2nd unit to make sure we gain ground when they're in, so he splits up some of the best players. That would be an interesting statistical comparison, if it were even possible to do. I doubt there would be enough minutes to clearly show that.
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Magic Friday 7:00 ET. 

Post#11 » by Reign23 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:10 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I hope they lose so all the hand wringing, infighting, RJ bashing and dumb trade proposals continues apace

believe me, you are not alone in that regard :lol:
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Post#12 » by Spree2Houston » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:51 pm

Whatever you have to do, you do it just to get there
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Post#13 » by Spree2Houston » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:53 pm

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Lineup would challenge the 96 Bulls
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Post#14 » by BKlutch » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:59 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:
BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Lineup would challenge the 96 Bulls

Maybe -- I wish...

If we knew it was really true, I'd want to organize all RealGM Knicks members to march in front of MSG every game demanding Thibs start this lineup LOL.
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Post#15 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm

BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail



Why Knicks aren’t playing their best lineup, which includes Immanuel Quickley, more

When Quickley, Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart and Julius Randle share the floor — whether that fifth guy is Isaiah Hartenstein or Mitchell Robinson — the Knicks vaporize whoever stands in front of them...

The Knicks outscore opponents by 26.5 points per 100 possessions this season when Brunson, Quickley, Hart and Randle share the floor, according to Cleaning the Glass. The defense is elite. The offense turns into the Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors if they had invented a time machine and added Michael Jordan...

Beyond just the point differential, which is the best in the NBA among four-man lineups, the numbers are staggering.

They are scoring 134.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s also the best in the league. Think about it like this: A 134.5 offensive rating is the equivalent of a team taking a 3-pointer on every possession and hitting 45 percent of them. Or to frame it another way, Zion Williamson, a boulder disguised as a human, is shooting a hair above 67 percent from the rim this season, which means this group is scoring well as if every possession ended in a Williamson layup.


According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Speaks to the notion that Quickley is enough on the perimeter.

I understand a desire not to get shot over at will. I really do, Thibs. But sometimes being present, pesky, and collaborative on defense is enough. Offensively, we are TOUGH tough with that lineup.
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Post#16 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 pm

BKlutch wrote:
Synciere wrote:
BKlutch wrote:KATZ: The Knicks have a Death Lineup

https://theathletic.com/5166089/2023/12/28/knicks-best-lineup-immanuel-quickley/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail




According to Fred Katz, we have the best lineup in the league, but we don't use it enough.


Maybe that's the best lineup because Thibs only uses it in certain situations?? I'm not sure what other reason it could be because Thibs clearly pays attention to things like net ratings...

I'm not sure, but one thought is that Thibs wants enough good players on the 2nd unit to make sure we gain ground when they're in, so he splits up some of the best players. That would be an interesting statistical comparison, if it were even possible to do. I doubt there would be enough minutes to clearly show that.


That too. We have a deadly second unit. That rotation we complain about is a double-edged sword because we crush opposing second units. Thibs builds war machines designed to keep rolling.
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Post#17 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Whatever you have to do, you do it just to get there


I might f around and take the bus.
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Post#18 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm

I don't buy the theory that this is a conspiracy to lower IQ's future salary. Thibs don't play with that. Man will play all his starters 48 minutes against a elementary school boys basketball team, get Brunson hurt in that game, and defend his reasoning while he celebrates a 500 point win.
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Post#19 » by G_K_F » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:53 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:I don't buy the theory that this is a conspiracy to lower IQ's future salary. Thibs don't play with that. Man will play all his starters 48 minutes against a elementary school boys basketball team, get Brunson hurt in that game, and defend his reasoning while he celebrates a 500 point win.

It's not. It's just being used to excuse Thibs' pathetic rotations.
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Post#20 » by G_K_F » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:01 pm

Also this is a loss.
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