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KnixinSix wrote:Th3 big news is this...Pistons despite their absolutely abominal record are still trying to improve the team right now and are potentially buyers. With that direction if any team made sense to take on LaVine its probably them.
mpharris36 wrote:j4remi wrote:This is what's given me pause too. If he gets going early, he starts to look like last season's Grimes. I can recall a couple of games where Randle went with the second unit in the first quarter closing minutes and targeted Grimes for his post-up kick out...you could see Grimes turn up in real-time.
I agree that Grimes >>> Our FRPs in this class too. There are always a few guys that slip through the cracks, but I feel like I'm gonna have to hunt for Euro Tape to find the players I see the most potential in for our 18-30 ranged picks.
are you factoring in team control? Are we going to extend Grimes at this point?
If we aren't we basically have him under control for 1 more season and we are looking to diminish his role even farther by acquiring another guard. So even if you believe Grimes will be a better player early we have to make a decision on Grimes future soon.
I was rather take another shot at the end of the 1st this year and get that full rookie contract control if we don't think there is much of a future with Grimes gong forward.
mpharris36 wrote:he's really not looked like that anymore...especially with only one more year on his rookie deal...a team wont value him more than a throw in late 1st round value.
cgf wrote:KnixinSix wrote:Th3 big news is this...Pistons despite their absolutely abominal record are still trying to improve the team right now and are potentially buyers. With that direction if any team made sense to take on LaVine its probably them.
I'm not sure what they could realistically offer the Bulls that would get Karnisovas to bite. The Bulls are much more likely to be buyers than sellers at this deadline and Lavine is an important part of their playoff push.
KnixinSix wrote:cgf wrote:KnixinSix wrote:Th3 big news is this...Pistons despite their absolutely abominal record are still trying to improve the team right now and are potentially buyers. With that direction if any team made sense to take on LaVine its probably them.
I'm not sure what they could realistically offer the Bulls that would get Karnisovas to bite. The Bulls are much more likely to be buyers than sellers at this deadline and Lavine is an important part of their playoff push.
Be honest.... does cgf stand for Chicago's girl friend?
The looming CBA is a very real harsh reality for organizations that will make 1 way stars making over 40M on a long term deal a much much harder contract to keep on their books.
We are going to see some of these contracts get shed by teams more as salary dumps than getting a ton back.
Pistons have two of their top players in Cade and Ivey still on rookie deals they can potentially absorb that hit with some salary going back to Chicago like Stewart maybe.
j4remi wrote:mpharris36 wrote:j4remi wrote:This is what's given me pause too. If he gets going early, he starts to look like last season's Grimes. I can recall a couple of games where Randle went with the second unit in the first quarter closing minutes and targeted Grimes for his post-up kick out...you could see Grimes turn up in real-time.
I agree that Grimes >>> Our FRPs in this class too. There are always a few guys that slip through the cracks, but I feel like I'm gonna have to hunt for Euro Tape to find the players I see the most potential in for our 18-30 ranged picks.
are you factoring in team control? Are we going to extend Grimes at this point?
If we aren't we basically have him under control for 1 more season and we are looking to diminish his role even farther by acquiring another guard. So even if you believe Grimes will be a better player early we have to make a decision on Grimes future soon.
I was rather take another shot at the end of the 1st this year and get that full rookie contract control if we don't think there is much of a future with Grimes gong forward.
I think the bird rights break it in favor of Grimes. This class won't have as much high-end talent, and that means it'll be harder to find gems. So having a guaranteed 3-and-D guy next year, plus his bird rights is better than the mystery box. Especially if Grimes can turn it around and rejuvenate some of his value. This is also factoring in that we could still trade him in the offseason or next trade deadline.
cgf wrote:KnixinSix wrote:cgf wrote:
I'm not sure what they could realistically offer the Bulls that would get Karnisovas to bite. The Bulls are much more likely to be buyers than sellers at this deadline and Lavine is an important part of their playoff push.
Be honest.... does cgf stand for Chicago's girl friend?
The looming CBA is a very real harsh reality for organizations that will make 1 way stars making over 40M on a long term deal a much much harder contract to keep on their books.
We are going to see some of these contracts get shed by teams more as salary dumps than getting a ton back.
Pistons have two of their top players in Cade and Ivey still on rookie deals they can potentially absorb that hit with some salary going back to Chicago like Stewart maybe.
Nah, "Chicago's Giant Fan". It was a bad pun from an American football board where I first started posting during the Eli Manning draft lol
The 2nd apron is harsh and I know we're hoping it means teams have to sacrifice talent, but Chicago just won't be a 2nd apron team next season. They'll have almost 60M under the 2nd apron with just DeRozan & Williams needing significant money.
So even if AK was dumb enough to send Coby & Pat out for DeJounte, then they could still give DeMar around 30M without sweating the super tax...so even swapping Lonzo for Kuzma as well, wouldn't force them to give Lavine away.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/chicago-bulls/cap/2024/
KnixinSix wrote:cgf wrote:KnixinSix wrote:
Be honest.... does cgf stand for Chicago's girl friend?
The looming CBA is a very real harsh reality for organizations that will make 1 way stars making over 40M on a long term deal a much much harder contract to keep on their books.
We are going to see some of these contracts get shed by teams more as salary dumps than getting a ton back.
Pistons have two of their top players in Cade and Ivey still on rookie deals they can potentially absorb that hit with some salary going back to Chicago like Stewart maybe.
Nah, "Chicago's Giant Fan". It was a bad pun from an American football board where I first started posting during the Eli Manning draft lol
The 2nd apron is harsh and I know we're hoping it means teams have to sacrifice talent, but Chicago just won't be a 2nd apron team next season. They'll have almost 60M under the 2nd apron with just DeRozan & Williams needing significant money.
So even if AK was dumb enough to send Coby & Pat out for DeJounte, then they could still give DeMar around 30M without sweating the super tax...so even swapping Lonzo for Kuzma as well, wouldn't force them to give Lavine away.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/chicago-bulls/cap/2024/
Hahahahaha so it DOES stand for Chicago lol
Nice bro.
What do you think of Bellichek becoming our next DC and riding into the sunset back where he started ? Obviously not a high likelihood but one can dream right?
Seems like the faves for the 3 remaining jobs are
Washington - Johnson
Seattle - Quinn
Atlanta - Vrabel/Slowik
Vrabel AND BB might be on the outside looking in
Buttah304 wrote:Am I the only one who doesn’t think Miami is the boogeyman anymore? Don’t get me wrong their track record is fantastic and every time they go to the playoffs they flip a switch (Spo is brilliant and Butler is healthy).
But I wholeheartedly feel they are worse this season. Even watching the Memphis game last night Herro and Rozier were getting annihilated by Scottie Pippen Jr. Those are 2 high usage players that are traffic cones on defense.
Last year Miami had the 3rd best net rating in the playoffs and the #1 3PT shooting percentage. So much of their ball movement, floor spacing and general unselfishness was due to guys like Vincent and Strus who are no longer on the team. Caleb Martin had a much bigger role for them and was legitimately an X factor. Lowry is cooked now but he provided defense and timely shooting for them especially in the 2nd round. This Miami team right now is averaging 95 PPG over their last 7. They are 20th in 3s attempted as well as assists. Dead last in blocks and 27th in rebounding.
Not trying to poke the bear but I’m not sure they are invincible moving forward.
cgf wrote:
Best trade news all year!
Buttah304 wrote:Am I the only one who doesn’t think Miami is the boogeyman anymore? Don’t get me wrong their track record is fantastic and every time they go to the playoffs they flip a switch (Spo is brilliant and Butler is healthy).
But I wholeheartedly feel they are worse this season. Even watching the Memphis game last night Herro and Rozier were getting annihilated by Scottie Pippen Jr. Those are 2 high usage players that are traffic cones on defense.
Last year Miami had the 3rd best net rating in the playoffs and the #1 3PT shooting percentage. So much of their ball movement, floor spacing and general unselfishness was due to guys like Vincent and Strus who are no longer on the team. Caleb Martin had a much bigger role for them and was legitimately an X factor. Lowry is cooked now but he provided defense and timely shooting for them especially in the 2nd round. This Miami team right now is averaging 95 PPG over their last 7. They are 20th in 3s attempted as well as assists. Dead last in blocks and 27th in rebounding.
Not trying to poke the bear but I’m not sure they are invincible moving forward.