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moocow007 wrote:I don't know about that. Dolan might be a lot of things (bad) but he always struck me as a guy that tried to take care of his players. Oakley wasn't an angel in this whole back and forth thing and seemed to want more than what would be reasonable.

Rodimus921 wrote:

moocow007 wrote:I don't know about that. Dolan might be a lot of things (bad) but he always struck me as a guy that tried to take care of his players. Oakley wasn't an angel in this whole back and forth thing and seemed to want more than what would be reasonable.

There Def was some personal.things between them but latrell sprewell was.nowhere to be found after that incident the very next game, Dolan had all these former.players in attendance

Meat wrote:In hindsight and by actual player testimony Dolan was never bad to his players. His failure was hiring the wrong people and being too loyal to them.

Meat wrote:Oakley can suck a dick,

In hindsight and by actual player testimony Dolan was never bad to his players. His failure was hiring the wrong people and being too loyal to them.

Luv those Knicks wrote:Leon gets credit for the turn around, and it's worth noting that Leon didn't always get it right. The Fournier / Kemba walker season. Yuck, and I'll fess up, At the time, I was excited about what those 2 brought.

But Fournier was flipped for Boggle who was flipped for Bridges so . . . he turned lemons into lemonade, spending several picks in the process, but most of us like what Leon has put together and with his cap wizard (forget the guys name), those 2 guys get credit.

As for Oak. I love Oak. Even if Oak was in the wrong, which I gather he was, not having read more than 2 paragraphs about this, Dolan handled it poorly and I'll never forgive Dolan for that, not that I would have forgiven Dolan anyway. I just don't like the guy for multiple reasons. I'm team Oak.

Owners should work things out with beloved former players. I didn't care for George Steinbrenner (sp?) either but one of the things he got right was making up with Yogi Berra. Have a meeting with Oak. Have a photo op. Work things out. I don't think Oak is a bad guy and I think getting 10 security guards to throw him out was got a lot of attention that wasn't necessary.

Spoiled billionaire inherits the team, runs it into the ground for 20 years. Oak was one of our few bright spots. Dude should have a big plaque in MSG, not be banned from the building. F*ck Dolan. That's where I come down on this.

FrozenEnvelope wrote:I loved Oak the player but I don't like Oak the person after retirement. He comes across as a grumpy, jealous, delusional narcissistic old man. He cant even give an interview without coming across as aggressive and rude. Keep him away from MSG and don't let him ruin the good vibes.

Luv those Knicks wrote:

FrozenEnvelope wrote:I loved Oak the player but I don't like Oak the person after retirement. He comes across as a grumpy, jealous, delusional narcissistic old man. He cant even give an interview without coming across as aggressive and rude. Keep him away from MSG and don't let him ruin the good vibes.

I haven't seen footage of the incident in 2017, but apparently, Oakley was sitting near Dolan and Oak was probably saying a little too loudly how bad the Knicks were, and he wasn't wrong. Dolan, in response, had him removed from the arena.

Granted, I didn't see the footage. I don't know how loud he was or if he poured his beer on Dolan or anything, but based on the reporting, Dolan didn't like what Oakley was saying and that was enough to have him removed.

I've not seen many (basically none) Oakley interviews over the last few years. You may be right on how he comes across.

I find it hard to believe that Dolan would have had a random fan removed for talking trash about how bad the Knicks were, but he had Oakley removed, maybe cause Oak was his guest, or, whatever. It still feels wrong to me to this day.

Now if Oak was fall down drunk or singing Klingon opera at the top of his lungs, then I'm wrong and Dolan did the right thing, but as I said, I wasn't there.

god shammgod wrote:no

HarthorneWingo wrote:

Luv those Knicks wrote:

FrozenEnvelope wrote:I loved Oak the player but I don't like Oak the person after retirement. He comes across as a grumpy, jealous, delusional narcissistic old man. He cant even give an interview without coming across as aggressive and rude. Keep him away from MSG and don't let him ruin the good vibes.

I haven't seen footage of the incident in 2017, but apparently, Oakley was sitting near Dolan and Oak was probably saying a little too loudly how bad the Knicks were, and he wasn't wrong. Dolan, in response, had him removed from the arena.

Granted, I didn't see the footage. I don't know how loud he was or if he poured his beer on Dolan or anything, but based on the reporting, Dolan didn't like what Oakley was saying and that was enough to have him removed.

I've not seen many (basically none) Oakley interviews over the last few years. You may be right on how he comes across.

I find it hard to believe that Dolan would have had a random fan removed for talking trash about how bad the Knicks were, but he had Oakley removed, maybe cause Oak was his guest, or, whatever. It still feels wrong to me to this day.

Now if Oak was fall down drunk or singing Klingon opera at the top of his lungs, then I'm wrong and Dolan did the right thing, but as I said, I wasn't there.

John McEnroe was sitting a few rows behind where Oak was sitting and didn’t hear him say the things Dolan claimed he said. I’m behind Oakley 100% on this. I can’t believe we have pusswads here who support Dolan over Oakley, who gave his blood, sweat, and tears for us Knicks fans.