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Yes just two games in but we are starting to see the X's and O's of what Thibs is trying to do with this team.


Just a few of my observations but would love to hear everyone else's:

-The pick and pop and pick and roll with KAT and Brunson has the potential to be lethal.

-KAT isn't just going to shoot the 3 but he will also drive to the basket. He has a ridiculous like what 20 FTs already in two games?

-Not worried about KATs 3 ball not going down yet, it's way early and sometimes players take a few games to get in rhythm with the deep shot especially on a new team. The quality of the looks was more impressive at this point.

-Spacing of the team looks amazing.

-The way both Bridges and OG disrupt the flow of opposing offenses is going to be a sight to behold this year. You could already see evidence of it last night. We had 16 steals and Washington had 30 turnovers. Thirty!

- We did look a bit softer in the middle and team's will drive a little more against us. Hopefully that changes when Mitch comes back and/or Hukporti quickly gets up to speed.

I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need a other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

Moose wrote:I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need a other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

That is going to be up for debate for sure but I think Thibs loves his fast break facilitation and energy he brings to that unit. I am betting he will continue to be the starter barring the line-up looking very flat for a long period of time and/or uncompetitive.

KnixinSix wrote:Yes just two games in but we are starting to see the X's and O's of what Thibs is trying to do with this team.


Just a few of my observations but would love to hear everyone else's:

-The pick and pop and pick and roll with KAT and Brunson has the potential to be lethal.

-KAT isn't just going to shoot the 3 but he will also drive to the basket. He has a ridiculous like what 20 FTs already in two games?

-Not worried about KATs 3 ball not going down yet, it's way early and sometimes players take a few games to get in rhythm with the deep shot especially on a new team. The quality of the looks was more impressive at this point.

-Spacing of the team looks amazing.

-The way both Bridges and OG disrupt the flow of opposing offenses is going to be a sight to behold this year. You could already see evidence of it last night. We had 16 steals and Washington had 30 turnovers. Thirty!

- We did look a bit softer in the middle and team's will drive a little more against us. Hopefully that changes when Mitch comes back and/or Hukporti quickly gets up to speed.

Good post. What I'll add is this....its way way early, but I think Kolek will be a special player...he just knows how to play, how to run a team , and when to shoot. As far as our lineup, I want OG at the 3 and Bridges at the 2 and Hart coming off the bench.

Regarding Tows, he's a much better or quicker and/or willing passer than I expected, Ill be interested to see what his assist stats will look like .


PS free TJ Warren , dude is still a walking bucket.

RHODEY wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:Yes just two games in but we are starting to see the X's and O's of what Thibs is trying to do with this team.


Just a few of my observations but would love to hear everyone else's:

-The pick and pop and pick and roll with KAT and Brunson has the potential to be lethal.

-KAT isn't just going to shoot the 3 but he will also drive to the basket. He has a ridiculous like what 20 FTs already in two games?

-Not worried about KATs 3 ball not going down yet, it's way early and sometimes players take a few games to get in rhythm with the deep shot especially on a new team. The quality of the looks was more impressive at this point.

-Spacing of the team looks amazing.

-The way both Bridges and OG disrupt the flow of opposing offenses is going to be a sight to behold this year. You could already see evidence of it last night. We had 16 steals and Washington had 30 turnovers. Thirty!

- We did look a bit softer in the middle and team's will drive a little more against us. Hopefully that changes when Mitch comes back and/or Hukporti quickly gets up to speed.

Good post. What I'll add this....its way way early, but I think Kolek will be a special player...he just knows how to play, how to run a team , and when to shoot. As far as our lineup, I want OG at the 3 and Bridges at the 2 and Hart coming off the bench.

Regarding Tows, he's a much better or quicker and/or willing passer than I expected, Ill be interested to see what his assist stats will look like .


PS free TJ Warren , dude is still a walking bucket.

Great point. His passes are absolutely legit. That is a little talked about dimension that could add a very beneficial dynamic to the team.

The perimeter defense gave me strong a four hour erection.

MrDollarBills wrote:The perimeter defense gave me strong a four hour erection.

I get it's early but I have been a big KAT endorser on this site for quite a while. I don't think many realize what type of team we are about to see here.

KP who is a lesser version of KAT and Holiday who is a lesser version of Bridges essentially took Celts to a another level and became a 60+ win team.

I think this team similarly goes to another level this year. Keep in mind what we looked like with OG but without Bridges. Team was like 20-5 prior to tons of injuries overwhelming us in the playoffs.

Just like Celts stepped up in level from 22-23 to 23-24, I think we will go from a 50 win team to a 60+ win team barring catastrophic unforeseen circumstances.

We finally built a modern day offense with elite wing defense. The team construction isn’t finished as I expect Leon to make one more move involving Mitch.

RHODEY wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:Yes just two games in but we are starting to see the X's and O's of what Thibs is trying to do with this team.


Just a few of my observations but would love to hear everyone else's:

-The pick and pop and pick and roll with KAT and Brunson has the potential to be lethal.

-KAT isn't just going to shoot the 3 but he will also drive to the basket. He has a ridiculous like what 20 FTs already in two games?

-Not worried about KATs 3 ball not going down yet, it's way early and sometimes players take a few games to get in rhythm with the deep shot especially on a new team. The quality of the looks was more impressive at this point.

-Spacing of the team looks amazing.

-The way both Bridges and OG disrupt the flow of opposing offenses is going to be a sight to behold this year. You could already see evidence of it last night. We had 16 steals and Washington had 30 turnovers. Thirty!

- We did look a bit softer in the middle and team's will drive a little more against us. Hopefully that changes when Mitch comes back and/or Hukporti quickly gets up to speed.

Good post. What I'll add this....its way way early, but I think Kolek will be a special player...he just knows how to play, how to run a team , and when to shoot. As far as our lineup, I want OG at the 3 and Bridges at the 2 and Hart coming off the bench.

Regarding Tows, he's a much better or quicker and/or willing passer than I expected, Ill be interested to see what his assist stats will look like .


PS free TJ Warren , dude is still a walking bucket.

Kolek is a natural 1 who may be an even better passer than Brunson. Super high BBIQ. I cant believe we found another post-lottery gem.

I can't fault and appreciate the enthusiasm but it's early...and yes- this is what I imagined when I heard about the trade

Moose wrote:I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need an other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

Brunson, McBride, Bridges, OG, Towns?

KnixinSix wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:The perimeter defense gave me strong a four hour erection.

I get it's early but I have been a big KAT endorser on this site for quite a while. I don't think many realize what type of team we are about to see here.

KP who is a lesser version of KAT and Holiday who is a lesser version of Bridges essentially took Celts to a another level and became a 60+ win team.

I think this team similarly goes to another level this year. Keep in mind what we looked like with OG but without Bridges. Team was like 20-5 prior to tons of injuries overwhelming us in the playoffs.

Just like Celts stepped up in level from 22-23 to 23-24, I think we will go from a 50 win team to a 60+ win team barring catastrophic unforeseen circumstances.

Don’t underrate KAT’s defense either.

The most immediately noticeable thing about the offense is how much quicker everything happens. There's no point where the ball stagnates so we're going to get better first opportunities. KAT missed some shots but they were quick and in rhythm. Shots he should take and shots he'll eventually make. When he didn't have a quick opportunity the ball moved immediately. With that, KAT actually got 4 OREBs last night and his career best in that cat was under Thibs so we may not be going away from that strategy completely. Very optimistic look at him.

Our wing defense is incredible. That will allow KAT to stick to on-ball situations, which is his strength. It's a different look from last year but one that shows promising initial fruit.

Moose wrote:I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need a other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

Yeah Hart is great as a swiss army knife ONCE the lay of the land is revealed in the game. Like a great relief pitcher who lifts the team with his play AFTER the game has started.

RHODEY wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:Yes just two games in but we are starting to see the X's and O's of what Thibs is trying to do with this team.


Just a few of my observations but would love to hear everyone else's:

-The pick and pop and pick and roll with KAT and Brunson has the potential to be lethal.

-KAT isn't just going to shoot the 3 but he will also drive to the basket. He has a ridiculous like what 20 FTs already in two games?

-Not worried about KATs 3 ball not going down yet, it's way early and sometimes players take a few games to get in rhythm with the deep shot especially on a new team. The quality of the looks was more impressive at this point.

-Spacing of the team looks amazing.

-The way both Bridges and OG disrupt the flow of opposing offenses is going to be a sight to behold this year. You could already see evidence of it last night. We had 16 steals and Washington had 30 turnovers. Thirty!

- We did look a bit softer in the middle and team's will drive a little more against us. Hopefully that changes when Mitch comes back and/or Hukporti quickly gets up to speed.

Good post. What I'll add this....its way way early, but I think Kolek will be a special player...he just knows how to play, how to run a team , and when to shoot. As far as our lineup, I want OG at the 3 and Bridges at the 2 and Hart coming off the bench.

Regarding Tows, he's a much better or quicker and/or willing passer than I expected, Ill be interested to see what his assist stats will look like .


PS free TJ Warren , dude is still a walking bucket.

I’ve had a hard time defending this argument before the trade, but passing isn’t only assist numbers and Towns is not only a good but also a willing (swing) passer. This team will be so much fun to watch.

spree2kawhi wrote:

Moose wrote:I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need an other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

Brunson, McBride, Bridges, OG, Towns?

the nice/amazing thing is the amount of Def players who can also score compared to a short 4 years ago.

spree2kawhi wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:The perimeter defense gave me strong a four hour erection.

I get it's early but I have been a big KAT endorser on this site for quite a while. I don't think many realize what type of team we are about to see here.

KP who is a lesser version of KAT and Holiday who is a lesser version of Bridges essentially took Celts to a another level and became a 60+ win team.

I think this team similarly goes to another level this year. Keep in mind what we looked like with OG but without Bridges. Team was like 20-5 prior to tons of injuries overwhelming us in the playoffs.

Just like Celts stepped up in level from 22-23 to 23-24, I think we will go from a 50 win team to a 60+ win team barring catastrophic unforeseen circumstances.

Don’t underrate KAT’s defense either.

I have 2 see it more and how he takes to Thib's system to be sold. I believe it's at minumum ok with some highs but some bad lapses too but at maximum it could be better than that

KnixinSix wrote:

Moose wrote:I think the team is better with Hart off the bench. He doesn't seem aggressive enough right now with the starting unit.

I rather see him run with the second unit and close ouT games when necessary.

I think Precious next to KAT can work, especially if Precious can hit the corner three. But we would need a other useful big off the bench and Sims ain't it. Maybe Hukporti can give some minutes at center, but this is going to be a problem until Mitch comes back or we find a way to improve that part of the roster.

That is going to be up for debate for sure but I think Thibs loves his fast break facilitation and energy he brings to that unit. I am betting he will continue to be the starter barring the line-up looking very flat for a long period of time and/or uncompetitive.

And I can get behind it. Hart deserves to play and he brings a lot to the table.

KnixinSix wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:The perimeter defense gave me strong a four hour erection.

I get it's early but I have been a big KAT endorser on this site for quite a while. I don't think many realize what type of team we are about to see here.

KP who is a lesser version of KAT and Holiday who is a lesser version of Bridges essentially took Celts to a another level and became a 60+ win team.

I think this team similarly goes to another level this year. Keep in mind what we looked like with OG but without Bridges. Team was like 20-5 prior to tons of injuries overwhelming us in the playoffs.

Just like Celts stepped up in level from 22-23 to 23-24, I think we will go from a 50 win team to a 60+ win team barring catastrophic unforeseen circumstances.

Yeah I think this roster, barring any insane injuries, is right there. A trade to bolster the 2nd unit will make the Knicks title favorites

I don't take Hart out of the starting line up.

You want 20 point leads when the 2nd unit it comes in? Having an insufferable defensive unit flanking Brunson and KAT is how you get there.

Hart will do his damage in transition and he can also operate as a secondary facilitator.