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How is he doing so far?

I can see Buzz voted already....

IQ 5 years 175 $M could be an all time bullet dodged. Very underrated transaction to dump him before he got paid.

Great. Washed away the STINK of so many years. Dealt with the NOW OBVIOUS "Knicks Tax" on trades and came out smelling like a Rose (Pun intended).

History yet to be written. But the dude has been tremendous.

We went from the longest joke in the league with no future to a true contender over a 5 year intentional rebuild. Under any metric, that's an excellent track record. The one caveat being Brock Aller's understanding and forecasting of the cap situation has been critical to ensuring our contracts consistently turn into positive, or at worst, neutral signings, so Brock deserves a significant amount of credit for our success.. Leon signed Brock so I guess that also comes back to Leon's great management.

Great cuz he didnt improve the bench yet

A+++++++++++++ are you kidding me

Went with *good*
Big hits -
getting Thibs
tampering to get Brunson
trading Reddish and FRP for Josh Hart
KAT trade
OG trade

I will say Phil Jackson gets a bad reputation here, but he did something really great - he gave us roster flexibility. We had some young useful player, we had our picks plus other picks. Cap outlook was not bad. He set us up well.

Rose almost screwed us with Fournier/Kemba, but allowed Thibs to play HIS bench over the highly paid guys and it paid off.
BIG overpay for Bridges.
Losing Donte hasn't been great
Last trade deadline (Grimes for Bogdonovic and Burks) was an obvious let down. Malachi Flynn was actually the best player THAT season after the trade (kid scores 52, can't find a job, this league is bonkers)

ultimately - this construction feels like an A tier team, not sure how we get to S tier.

Bit of hindsight - but it would have been wise for us to trade iHart last deadline before he left us for nothing, but who knows what dominos that sets off.

Heres my answer:

Context wrote:Heres my answer:

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Notice they don't show the cap sheet, and the available draft capital...

Good

Didn't get enough for Sims. Fail.

The best to ever do it, best GM in Knicks history

I think Wingo hates him so that should add to everyone’s score.

nykballa2k4 wrote:

Context wrote:Heres my answer:

Read on Twitter

Notice they don't show the cap sheet, and the available draft capital...

Yeah I miss the days when no one wanted to come here, we had draft capital and less wins.

knicks512 wrote:

nykballa2k4 wrote:

Context wrote:Heres my answer:

Read on Twitter

Notice they don't show the cap sheet, and the available draft capital...

Yeah I miss the days when no one wanted to come here, we had draft capital and less wins.

I mean, Randle did!

We have been meh in the draft. Our biggest achievements are getting guys who are good enough to help us, with asset attached, get guys that we should have drafted. Only exception being KAT, who we missed out on due to our lotto luck.

Getting rid of arguably the worst defensive player in Knicks history deserves executive of the decade award for Leon rose

The talent and team that he acquired and turnaorund he initiated really speaks for itself. He has been excellent.

I admit I criticized him early on but I had to completely correct my stance on him. Not only did he work a miracle---nowadays I also appreciate his low-key personality, working in the background, keeping everything calm and professional. It really feels like the organization is being run by professionals that have an idea of what they are doing. Having lived through the 2000-2020 era, it is such a difference it sometimes feels surreal.

Grade: AAA+++

nykballa2k4 wrote:Went with *good*
Big hits -
getting Thibs
tampering to get Brunson
trading Reddish and FRP for Josh Hart
KAT trade
OG trade

I will say Phil Jackson gets a bad reputation here, but he did something really great - he gave us roster flexibility. We had some young useful player, we had our picks plus other picks. Cap outlook was not bad. He set us up well.

Rose almost screwed us with Fournier/Kemba, but allowed Thibs to play HIS bench over the highly paid guys and it paid off.
BIG overpay for Bridges.
Losing Donte hasn't been great
Last trade deadline (Grimes for Bogdonovic and Burks) was an obvious let down. Malachi Flynn was actually the best player THAT season after the trade (kid scores 52, can't find a job, this league is bonkers)

ultimately - this construction feels like an A tier team, not sure how we get to S tier.

Bit of hindsight - but it would have been wise for us to trade iHart last deadline before he left us for nothing, but who knows what dominos that sets off.

Phil was extremely bad trash. He deserves to be listed with Isiah, Layden, etc. He doesn’t deserve shyt just cause he didn’t trade picks. Steve Mills knew the same, except Steve Mills didn’t pigeonhole a system, didn’t force bad coaches on us for the system, and didn’t have a habit of trashing his players through his butt Buddy Rosen.

I think with Rose, I think what is just as important are the trades he didn’t make, the extensions he didn’t give to players, the right timing of some of the moves.

Reign23 wrote:IQ 5 years 175 $M could be an all time bullet dodged. Very underrated transaction to dump him before he got paid.

Leon has dodged quite a few bullets but also had some misses

Cam Reddish trade from ATL
Obi Toppin pick
Kemba Walker signing
That FRP trade for future FRP (forgot which year that was)

I don't remember the trade structure for Donovan Mitchell...