OT: Why is HBO

[Ray Williams]

killing of all it's good shows? Thw Wire is in it's last season. There was no need to end it so soon.

[fimslim3]

The writers guild strike?

[VinnyTheMick]

killing of all it's good shows? Thw Wire is in it's last season. There was no need to end it so soon.

You think HBO wanted the Sopranos or the Wire to end? The creators wanted it to end. They wanted it to end before the writing got stale. I don't like the idea & HBO sure as hell doesn't.

[HellsKitchen]

The Wire, for some unknowable reason, does not get good ratings. It was unsure whether it would even be picked up again by HBO. As it is, they're only doing an abbreviated 10-show final season.

"The Sopranos" was just a matter of folks wanting to move on, particularly James Gandolfini.

[VinnyTheMick]

"The Sopranos" was just a matter of folks wanting to move on, particularly James Gandolfini.

It was pretty much David Chase & Gandolfini. Everyone else wanted to keep it going for the most part.

[Election]

Its sad to see the Wire go, and Knicks board, please no spoiler on the title of threads, if you want to discuss it, simply go to the Media board or start a thread with something like (OT: The Wire)

I no longer carry HBO so i have to wait but want no spoiler to mess that up before i see the final season, I'll be damn if i come on this page and see "Omar is killed!" or "Barksdale getting rape in jail!"

thanks

Reason i think the Wire doesn't get good rating is because people simply want to be entertain, Wire can be hard to follow for some folks, especially for people who watches Prison Break or Weed and also the race factor, some folks thought it is a 'Urban area show' when its way beyond just the violence and drugs

[maddbaron]

the wire doesnt get ratings b/c simply ppl dont want to see what life is like when it involves a mostly black cast where the white folks r the focus and it isnt a orgyfest with fashion clothes all over the place. Entourage is just that but its funny so its ok the wire is reality it can be any hood in america and most white folks know nothing about the hood and don't want to see it unless its for charity.
The wire is widely known as the best show on tv but it will never get credit b/c its a black based show and it doesn't have any of the fluff that hollywood has there is no product placement there r no flashy clothes no pretty tall blonds just life and reality.
the 1st 7 eps have been leaked and so far i've only seen the 1st two and they r works of art.
The wire is the america we only see when its election time or there is a katrina level event and even then blacks r looters and whites are survivors.

[maddbaron]

and as the poster above said the actors/creators dont want it to continue tho if the ratings were stronger the creators said they'd continue the wire but no ratings no justification of budgets no long term appeal to the actors.

[NoLayupRule]

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It was pretty much David Chase & Gandolfini. Everyone else wanted to keep it going for the most part.

uh, who is that in your avatar plz?

[e180th]

I agree with most of the posts here regarding The Wire.

[CDB]

Im miss The Sopranos already. And Im still mad that the Wire is going to end this year, but all good things must come to an end.

[Election]

the wire doesnt get ratings b/c simply ppl dont want to see what life is like when it involves a mostly black cast where the white folks r the focus and it isnt a orgyfest with fashion clothes all over the place. Entourage is just that but its funny so its ok the wire is reality it can be any hood in america and most white folks know nothing about the hood and don't want to see it unless its for charity.
The wire is widely known as the best show on tv but it will never get credit b/c its a black based show and it doesn't have any of the fluff that hollywood has there is no product placement there r no flashy clothes no pretty tall blonds just life and reality.
the 1st 7 eps have been leaked and so far i've only seen the 1st two and they r works of art.
The wire is the america we only see when its election time or there is a katrina level event and even then blacks r looters and whites are survivors.

Where did you catch the first 7? PM me if you will? thanks

[maddbaron]

so far only the 1st two and number 7 have been released the guy ripping them is an idiot 3 and 4 i am told weren't released only 1,2,5,6,7 i'm waiting to see if 3,4 will pop up but u can get them on torrents using piratebay the download direct links r dead so only torrents r around...

[maddbaron]

if u use torrents as of today episode 5 is really episode 7

[VinnyTheMick]

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uh, who is that in your avatar plz?

Paola Rey. Not the model/actress, but the pornostar. From Brasil. Before porn she helped Brasilians learn english in Rio. A true hero to all.

[peruanaso]

I have no problem with them ending The Wire. I've been watching since season 1 and have gotten pretty much everyone I know hooked on the show, so I am a massive fan. While I'll miss the show, I'd rather it develop and end naturally than compromise the unbelievably high standard of writing and production the show is known for.

That being said, HBO does seem to be losing or ending interesting shows at a high rate lately. I was disappointed to see Deadwood and Rome end as they were both compelling series.

[CDAZ]

I was okay with the sopranos going off. Deadwood was a lil hard to deal with. I was pissed they took Rome off the air after only 2 seasons. Now they are taking the wire off? I don't see a point in having HBO anymore. Showtime has dexter and the tudors. I guess that will have to hold me down.

[Election]

Well, the new HBO crime drama will be Martin Scorsese as producer's "Boardwalk"-story about the rise of Atlantic City's gambling empire..sounds very interesting to me, just don't know when the show will be air

[NoLayupRule]

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Paola Rey. Not the model/actress, but the pornostar. From Brasil. Before porn she helped Brasilians learn english in Rio. A true hero to all.

Ahh, I know I recognized her. She usually has a less angelic look though. perhaps its because shes usually not alone with a camera, if you get my meaning. like you couldnt ...

I thought it was aurora snow for a min

[joelh]

People don't watch the wire because the reality of it is too depressing. Even if they were white, they wouldn't watch. My so called life, a cult hit on ABC was aimed at white people, but bombed as it was too dark.

Life goes on, a semi hit in the early 90's, never picked up syndication because of it.

Most shows that do well are brainless or not psychologically damaging or too intense to watch. Like 6 feet under. It wasn't a ratings bonanza like Sopranos because it was morbid. Even though it was an all white cast. (mostly white, bad job by me)

The fact is, it's hard to sell a show about stuff we've seen before, albeit it's well done and presented better than most displays of black urban life.

If one has seen juice, oz, south central, boyz in the hood and new jack city, it's not really ground breaking or awe inspiring or 'fresh'. I am a white person who likes how WELL the show is made. But it's too depressing. Just as 6 feet under was. I get too upset to see the **** that goes on. I'm like that with a lot of shows. Esp. with 6 feet, it was TOO much.

I watch entourage because the writing is sharp and it keeps a fast pace and isn't as intense. I liked sopranos because it injected a bit of humor when needed and the characters/scenery were more colorful.

White people will watch a show with black people and not think twice if it's universal and not "FOR US BY US, don't want you watching" - let's face it, SOME shows are like that. Just as Jeff Foxworthy's **** is geared mostly for white hillbillies.

And White People (whoever they are, jews, italians? Who?) will want shows with white people cancelled too. It's a fact. I've seen it happen for 25+ years. White people, if you get to know them, don't really sit around worrying about race of actors or characters. But the story of 'tough black neighborhood, trying to survive' is as original as 'gay man, woman, let's live together' or 'white hip hipsters living together with kooky hijinx insuing' or whatever garbage we phase out now.

I know what you mean, but white people in hollywood are liberal as **** and want to help anybody make it. Now if hollywood/hbo were created by rednecks, the wire would be replaced by the Jeff Foxworthy sheep shtuping comedy bonanza staring Bociefus Fatbelly and his hillybilly clan.

On another message board, black posters were basically admitting they want shows geared towards them. Thing is, people don't get into the creative field to ignore a large % of people, so it's hard to find shows that fit one specific market and gain wide appeal. It's too much of a gamble for a producer. That it lasted 5 years says a lot about the quality. There was a time this show would NEVER be made.

Know what I mean? And besides, how long did it take for there to be shows staring jews who keep their name and do their own shtick? I didn't see too many in the 70's or 80's. It is what it is. It's not a 'black vs white' thing. It's a $$$ thing, sadly.