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I keep here this kid is great but I I don't see him in the draft express 1st round mock.

hes in 2009 probably cause the writers believe he will stay for at least another year.

2008 1st Round Mock - Full Mock
# Team Player
1 Timberwolves Michael Beasley
PF, 18 years old, 6'9", 220 lbs.
Kansas State, Freshman
2 Heat Derrick Rose
PG, 19 years old, 6'4", 180 lbs.
Memphis, Freshman
3 Knicks O.J. Mayo
PG/SG, 20 years old, 6'5", 195 lbs.
USC, Freshman
4 Grizzlies Eric Gordon
SG, 19 years old, 6'3", 215 lbs.
Indiana, Freshman
5 SuperSonics Danilo Gallinari
SF, 19 years old, 6'9", 209 lbs.
Armani Jeans Milano, International
6 Clippers Roy Hibbert
C, 21 years old, 7'2", 272 lbs.
Georgetown, Senior
7 Bobcats Nicolas Batum
SF, 19 years old, 6'8", 214 lbs.
Le Mans Sarthe Basket, International
8 Bucks Kosta Koufos
C, 18 years old, 7'1", 245 lbs.
Ohio State, Freshman
9 Kings Donte Greene
SF/PF, 19 years old, 6'10", 220 lbs.
Syracuse, Freshman
10 Bulls Chase Budinger
SG/SF, 20 years old, 6'7", 190 lbs.
Arizona, Sophomore
11 76ers Darrell Arthur
PF, 20 years old, 6'9", 215 lbs.
Kansas, Sophomore
12 Cavaliers Serge Ibaka
PF, 18 years old, 6'10", 220 lbs.
CB L'Hospitalet, International
13 Jazz Chris Douglas-Roberts
SG/SF, 20 years old, 6'6", 200 lbs.
Memphis, Junior
14 Rockets D.J. Augustin
PG, 20 years old, 5'11", 175 lbs.
Texas, Sophomore
15 Nets Brook Lopez
C, 19 years old, 7'0", 230 lbs.
Stanford, Sophomore
16 Pacers Trent Plaisted
C, 21 years old, 6'11", 240 lbs.
BYU, Junior
17 Raptors Kevin Love
PF/C, 19 years old, 6'9", 255 lbs.
UCLA, Freshman
18 Wizards Tywon Lawson
PG, 20 years old, 5'11", 175 lbs.
North Carolina, Sophomore
19 Suns
From
Hawks Darren Collison
PG, 20 years old, 6'1", 165 lbs.
UCLA, Junior
20 Warriors Tyler Hansbrough
PF, 22 years old, 6'9", 230 lbs.
North Carolina, Junior
21 Trailblazers DeVon Hardin
C, 21 years old, 6'11", 225 lbs.
California, Senior
22 Nuggets Richard Hendrix
PF, 21 years old, 6'8", 250 lbs.
Alabama, Junior
23 Mavericks Courtney Lee
SG/SF, 22 years old, 6'5", 190 lbs.
Western Kentucky, Senior
24 Lakers Nikola Pekovic
C, 21 years old, 6'11", 243 lbs.
KK Partizan, International
25 Magic Ryan Anderson
PF, 19 years old, 6'10", 235 lbs.
California, Sophomore
26 Hornets Bill Walker
SF, 20 years old, 6'6", 225 lbs.
Kansas State, Sophomore
27 SuperSonics
From
Suns Derrick Caracter
PF/C, 19 years old, 6'9", 286 lbs.
Louisville, Sophomore
28 Spurs Jamont Gordon
PG/SG/SF, 20 years old, 6'3", 225 lbs.
Mississippi St., Junior
29 Pistons Brandon Rush
SG/SF, 22 years old, 6'7", 211 lbs.
Kansas, Junior
30 Celtics Nathan Jawai
C, 21 years old, 6'10", 282 lbs.
Cairns Taipans, International

NY is top 3, but in the top 3 are actual lottery picks NY might not get that high... although I hope they get a top 2 pick (and select Rose).

XcalibuR wrote:hes in 2009 probably cause the writers believe he will stay for at least another year.

Bingo, they have Jordan as the 3rd overall pick in the 2009 mock draft.

I wouldnt put it pass Thomas to guarantee Jordan our lottery pick if we don't get a top 2 pick.

They also have Bayless going in the 2009 draft. I would not be surprised if some of these freshman stay another year.

if we get the #1 pick and Rose stays for next year, I will cry.

ijag23 wrote:They also have Bayless going in the 2009 draft. I would not be surprised if some of these freshman stay another year.

Bayless is coming out this year. Trust me. He's putting up great numbers. He is a lottery pick.

honestly after what happened this summer with oden and his injury, why wouldn't every player come out when they first can if they will be a lottery pick. This isn't the NFL, being #1 doesn't really matter the pay size isn't that much larger, all that matters is the 2nd contract.

Rose would be stupid to turn down the #1 overall pick in the draft. He can't turn that down if he's promised and guaranteed to go top 3.

It's such a tough system...what is in the best interests of the player is nowhere near the best interests of the teams selecting players. A young talent has no incentive to stay in school and develop their game and talent. The NBA should continue to work to raise the age limit for the league as I think it benefits all parties involved.

i also think staying in college raelly helps you mature. i'd like to see a 2 yr rule. but i know it's not happening.

Deandre is going to be a beast athletically. Like I said. Thomas is good at shaping YOUNG talent.

We need an athletic big that can run the floor. If this dude can play C I wouldn't care if he doesn't become an offensive dynamo.

If we dont get the number one pick Im leaning toward Jordan. This dude could be Howard light. If this dude puts on weight its a wrap.

optimusadl wrote:Deandre is going to be a beast athletically. Like I said. Thomas is good at shaping YOUNG talent.

We need an athletic big that can run the floor. If this dude can play C I wouldn't care if he doesn't become an offensive dynamo.

If we dont get the number one pick Im leaning toward Jordan. This dude could be Howard light. If this dude puts on weight its a wrap.

I agree.

they should change the rules to the way football does it. 3 years before you can enter the draft...curry might actually know some fundemntals had he gone to a year or 2 of college

football and bball are completely different though.

you need those 3+ years to be physically strong enough.

bball you don't need any years to be strong enough (depending on who you are)

Because Draft Express doesn't update their mocks as much as Nbadraft.net. Nbadraft.net does it every week. Draftexpress seems like it does it once a month. THats exactly why I don't take any of their comparisons or projections serious until the end of the year

Sonics fan here. We're not throwing in the towel yet. Once we trade Kurt Thomas for Kwame Brown( to get the Lakers first round pick as well) we are going to be in position to battle you guys tooth and nail for that coveted #2 pick( just behind Minnesota).

Somewhat seriously though, what does it say when alot of Sonics fans are starting to get worried that the T-Wolves, Knicks, Grizzlies, and Heat might actually end up worse, thus making the draft not as good as we thought at the beginning of the season.

I'm concerned some coffee crazed Sonics fan( with the stress of the possible relocation) will end up doing a Tonya Harding on Kevin Durant so there wil be no more scorers on Seattle.

But be careful what you wish for. I watched as Seattle picked 3 raw centers with "potential" in 3 consecutive drafts, with none panning out. Seattle basically wasted 3 drafts. Jordan may one day end up being a good NBA player, but the pain of the wait and the uncertainty is a killer for a team. Go with the sure thing if you can.

randomhero423 wrote:football and bball are completely different though.

you need those 3+ years to be physically strong enough.

bball you don't need any years to be strong enough (depending on who you are)

There's also a complexity to football that demands teaching and learning of a lot of information. Unfortunately, I don't think the need to learn systems or the physical strength requirements are the main reason behind this. Football contracts are non-guaranteed; there is no safety net other than your degree and your wits. There's no "I can always go play in Europe if the NBA doesn't work out."

If you're going to the NFL, you better be ready athletically and mentally. I would LOVE for the NBA to have non-guaranteed contracts.