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OT: Hillary wins the Nevada Caucus

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Who will win the Nevada Caucus?

Poll ended at Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:18 pm

Clinton
4
25%
Obama
6
38%
Edwards
3
19%
Edwards
3
19%
 
Total votes: 16

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Post#41 » by cmaff051 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:29 pm

ElMatatan wrote:I hope Obama wins south carolina.......


Why? Is there a reason why you want him to win? Or is it because of his skin color?

I'm not trying to be racist, I'm just curious. Do you know what he stands for?
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Post#42 » by Jemini80 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:34 pm

the problem is the majority of people are voting for Obama to make history, it has nothing to do with his views or plans because he hasn't announced any outside of his failed healthcare plan which he said he would change but still hasn't.

Oh btw, Hilarycare is going to **** over the american public, but will be good for my family.

If hilary clinton gets elected, invest in Big Pharm companies except Merck who is just in all kinds of long-term ****.

Clinton is a republican running as a Democrat, just like Huck is a democrat running as a republican.

if Romney is the Repub nominee i will be voting for Hilary, as long as Obama or Edwards aren't her VP, and McCain isn't Romney's VP, because then i will still have hope because if Romney gets killed my first choice will be president.
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Post#43 » by ElMatatan » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:05 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Why? Is there a reason why you want him to win? Or is it because of his skin color?

I'm not trying to be racist, I'm just curious. Do you know what he stands for?


Yes, is his skin color.......

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Post#44 » by Jemini80 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:11 pm

i don't see how you can support Obama unless you like pretty words or are racist and think we should elect a president just based on "making history."

I'd rather make history with someone qualified to be president and who actually knows how government works, like Rice or Gen. Powell
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Post#45 » by DesignStudio » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:15 pm

ElMatatan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yes, is his skin color.......

Idiot*


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#46 » by slamvangundy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:22 pm

Jemini80 wrote:the problem is the majority of people are voting for Obama to make history, it has nothing to do with his views or plans because he hasn't announced any outside of his failed healthcare plan which he said he would change but still hasn't.

Oh btw, Hilarycare is going to **** over the american public, but will be good for my family.

If hilary clinton gets elected, invest in Big Pharm companies except Merck who is just in all kinds of long-term ****.

Clinton is a republican running as a Democrat, just like Huck is a democrat running as a republican.

if Romney is the Repub nominee i will be voting for Hilary, as long as Obama or Edwards aren't her VP, and McCain isn't Romney's VP, because then i will still have hope because if Romney gets killed my first choice will be president.


What a silly statement.

I think the Iraq war is a terrible misuse of our military. It has set us back severely in the war against terror (which we never ended up commiting to despite all the talk). It is costing needless lives and losing america power and influence in the world as well as degrading our long term fighting capabilities.

To me this is the number one issue. Obama was right from the start.

Combined with the fact that he is significantly more intelligent than Hillary on economic issues, has committed to far less spending initiatives, unlike Hillary or Edwards, has not abetted the president every time he has seeked to illegally expand state power, edited the Harvard law journal where he made great relationships with the conservatives on the paper, is not proposing a massive long term health care entitlement and furthermore, is not an idiot baby boomer who obsesses over largely symbolic issues (Hillary and her obsession with violence in videogames, when she was one of the only democrats on the intelligence committee to authorize the iraq war, Edwards and his people versus the powerful BS---demagoguing about 'greedy' corporations).

I am voting for Obama
-because he has been proven right on military issues
-because he promises to be the most economically conservative candidate of the democrats WHILE still understanding the urgency of addressing poverty. generations of federally funded cash transfers have not solved the worst social problems that have resulted from poverty (drugs, violence and broken families). It's time we had a candidate propose solutions that are more creative than the time honored tradition of throwing money into the fire.
-because he is right on social issues. without whining, using divisive rhetoric, and acting like a baby, he has committed to protecting civil rights across the board. he doesn't demagogue against youth culture. he acknowledges the tragedy of abortion, while still maintaining the rights of women to settle their own business. on issues of religion, race, free speech, privacy...across the board he has a good record and he defends it on a common sense basis without getting into this idiotic BS about the special rights of women or the special rights of this minority group or that minority group.
-He is the smartest of the three dems. Edwards was an ambulance chaser who talked about what the angels of dead kids would have to say to the jury in his closing marks in litigation proceedings. How manipulative and sleazy is that! Hillary has accomplished nothing in New York outside of getting us pork barrel spending upstate and abetting George Bush on Iraq and civil liberties motivated only by political calculation and cowardice. Actually, she can also claim credit for trying to use her influence as a senator to stop 'dangerous video game makers' and 'foul mouthed music artists' from corrupting our youth, causing young boys to shoot up schools and young girls to cuss and get pregnant. And I thought the biggest threats our nation faced were terrorism, nuclear proliferation and global warming! Silly me!

Whether you are a sensible economic conservative like me who opposes massive expansions of state spending, or whether you are some crazy liberal, Hillary care, while well intentioned, can not possibly look like a sensible policy, though its failings have been over-exagerrated by her enemies. Regardless, it was a political disaster, and should inspire significant wariness about her ability to advocate for democratic legislation.

So through a combination of process of elimination of the other candidates, and a belief that barack obama is intelligent, shares my valeus and has a history of being correct, even on controversial issues, I think he is the clear winner.
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Post#47 » by cmaff051 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:50 pm

ElMatatan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yes, is his skin color.......

Idiot*


Explain to me what you like about him. Is it his policies? Is it his record? Is it his stance on the issues?
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Post#48 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:56 pm

KnicksScholar24 wrote:Clinton won 7 out of the same 9 casinos that the Clintons were trying to shut down caucuses, disenfranchise people who looked like they may not vote for his wife, and whining about. Just shows you how the Clintons are trying to manipulate and deceive.

I'm still not sure how Clinton got 65% of the Latino vote. Obama ended up with the majority of the delegates for Nevada (13 to 12). The Democrats have a better chance of winning in the general election against Republicans if "the Clintons" aren't representing the Democrats.


Obama won Nevada, not Hillary! He got 13 delegates, she got 12. So, he wins.
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Post#49 » by JustaKnick » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:04 pm

Liqourish wrote:I believe your rant is directed at me, so let's break it down.

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I don't care where you live, obviously what I state in based in facts. Whether you are aware of those facts or just care to ignore them really isn't my concern. Maybe if you don't udnerstand it, you should just say so instead of "writing BS".


I think my tone was calm and consistent. Yours I know was a bit different.

I don't know if Huckabee is a racist or not, but his words clearly show that he should not be President.

So you want Obama to come to your house to tell you about his past. Also, when has Obama been short or not forthcoming about his past. He did write a book about it. What have you been watching?

Every candidate has been on countless committees. You make it seem like Obama just jumped into politics two years ago. Maybe you are over blowing the experience thing a bit.

And I will say it again, you were writing BS, not because you were not,but because you were.
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Post#50 » by kandiking » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:37 pm

hillarycare is the worst of all worlds, capitalist gouging mixed with socialist bureaucracy.
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Post#51 » by DesignStudio » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:49 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Explain to me what you like about him. Is it his policies? Is it his record? Is it his stance on the issues?


Why don't you tell him since you already assumed why he likes him... :rofl:
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Post#52 » by Ignitowsky » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:14 am

kandiking wrote:hillarycare is the worst of all worlds, capitalist gouging mixed with socialist bureaucracy.

Could you explain what you mean, giving details of her plan to back up your rhetoric?

Have you actually read what her plan is?
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Post#53 » by slamvangundy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:35 pm

riyaz_guerra wrote:Ugh man, that's a lot of misconceptions there mixed in with some truth.

Lemme clarify some of it for the few at Realgm here who are actually following this.

Every wonder why Barack is the ONLY leading Democratic canidate the doesn't endorse universal healthcare? The ONLY canidate that doesn't want the American people to get the best medical care no matter their finanical, ethnic, or community make-up?


The guy may not be proposing universal healthcare like Hillary or Edwards but to say that
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Post#54 » by cmaff051 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:27 am

Just as a reminder, there is a debate tonight on CNN at 8 PM EST.
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Post#55 » by cmaff051 » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 am

Holy ****, this debate is getting dirty. Obama and Clinton are throwing punches at each other.

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