TheBluest wrote:TKF wrote:This is where I'll give WALSHED UP credit. He wouldn't allow any player to usurp his coach. Matter of fact he by nature kind of commands respect without the grandiose persona. His presence alone is enough at times. He got behind Pringles since day one as far as chain of command even to a degree of backing him without having full information on matters. That's when you know as a player where the chain of authority is. LB didn't 1/100th of this kind of support when here. Now they haven't been quite on the same page in other matters.
exactly, good post bluest... All Isiah had to do was tell steph, Brown is in charged... end of story. Instead he remained quiet, allowed them to publicly feud. His silence pretty much empowered steph to continue ignoring brown and sent a bad message to the team.. At that point, I think brown knew his tenure here was over as long as Isiah was in charge, so he did the only thing left to do, and that was to attempt to usurp Isiah, only brown underestimated Dolans loyalty to Ishiah as well as his level of stupidity as an owner..
Yep and to hone in on this point again WALSHED UP backed Pringles on the Marbury situation even though he wasn't there and had no idea who was telling the truth or who was lying. He backed his coach first and foremost. Now he could have done Marbury wrong in matters in that he really is trusting one man's word over the other but based on the principle of respecting authority and team commitment he made it clear who he'd support and what he expected of his players.
I think I SAY UGH was relishing the fact Marbury was feuding with LB because LB disrespected his roster early on and he was messing with his prize acquisition. LB has no feuding with Jordan. They both have publicly backed each other and make no mistake about it, no relationship is ever perfect. I don't think Jordan and LB agree on every matter but they work together for what they ultimately both want and that's for the Bobcats to be a competitive, respected, basketball team with aspirations of making the playoffs.
Felton isn't going to Jordan crying about how LB is taking his manhood and crying about why his name was constantly in trade rumors. Nope the young fella straps em up every night and goes balls to the walls for his coach, his GM, and his teammates. Same with D.J. No crying over back and forth minutes... high minute... low minute games, he straps em up and bust his Asss every minute he's out there. What about Bell and Diaw did they come there and try use their recent swag success and lord it over a bunch of players who have experienced a lot of losing? Nope they came there as solid vets to help their club win games, matter of fact Bell and Diaw have both commented the Bobcats already had leaders before they arrived in Felton and Wallace and all they wanted to do is come in and help.
Unlike here you had a GM trade for vets who'd come in and disrespect the coach like Jalen and Francis... refusing to practice, crying over playing time and role, quietly asking for trades, and refusing to do the things necessary as professionals all the while the GM doing nothing, handing out no disciplinary action. No words of encouragement in the press for the coach to hang in there he'll help right the ship. Nope he'd either send players home because they had other underlying issues that he didn't want to come out to embarrass him as a GM or he'd go to the owner to discuss buyouts. In Charlotte there's respect and that speaks volumes of LB since most feel he's running the full show in general and this while they're losing more than they're winning.
Great points you made.. First of all, you are right, coach and Gm don't always have to agree, but their goals need to be the same. the point you made about felton was dead on.. Brown came in and Drafted a PG, now felton could have taken that as a threat or as motivation. So far it seems to have motivated him, now he will play himself into a nice contract this summer or next when he becomes a Free agent... No whining, no agendas for felton, just strap em up and ball.. when you are on a team that is in the lottery year after year, no one should feel safe..
Same with wallace. Brown talked about trading him from day 1.. what has wallace done, he has averaged 16/7 with 2 assists and is on pace to play more games than he did last year, and would have shattered that, had he not gotten hurt by bynum. Just came in and balled.
the same with Bell and diaw. good players, good guys, they came in not looking to be the "man", but to lead by fitting in?
Brown never got the support here he deserved and it irks me that NY fans trash this guy as if he was the reason we were bad. I will tell you this, Dantoni, Phil jackson, Red auerbach, Pat riley would have never survived under those circumstances. Isiah and dolan were just running this franchise into the ground and they both were cosigning each others BS!!!
Again, I hate to say this as a knicks fan, because I don't root for other teams we are in competition with, but I am happy to see brown doing well in charlotte, many said they would fail this year, but honestly, their improvement has been as good as ours.. I watched quite a few of their games this year and i tell you this, they could easily have won 4 more games they lost just due to inexperience before they got bell and diaw, games I felt they would have won with them.. while we lost games due to the stupidity of our vets.. IE: Free candy slapping boards and ish..... geez.... good to see the cats playing well, good for brown.. we ran that guy out of here and he didn't trash this organization when he had every right to...
Nope he'd either send players home because they had other underlying issues that he didn't want to come out to embarrass him as a GM or he'd go to the owner to discuss buyouts
another big problem of Isiah the GM and Isiah the coach.... Agenda driven to the max!!