Orlando or Houston

[Skin]

Let's expand this out.

ORL
HOU
OKC
DET
IND

Whose setup do you like best into the future?

Or maybe you'd prefer to go for one of a couple of teardown teams
SAS

1. Orlando Magic- best players. Banchero could be legit 1st option. Best fitting roster. Loaded with forwards. Bigs and guards can switch. Additional draft picks.

2. Oklahoma City Thunder- most assets. SGA looking more like good second option than first option. Without switching bigs. Unproven forwards, Holmgren could have problems switching, Dort undersized, Williams not the most athletic.

3. San Antonio Spurs- they are not the most talented but i like their trajectory. They load up on wings/forwards. Good defensive core. They have some additional assets.

4. Houston Rockets- they have future picks. They have some wing/ forward depth. Talented individuals but mostly selfish, bad decision makers, with character issues. High risk of team implosion becouse of chemistry.

5. Indiana Pacers- not the biggest upside, but they build the right way. Have wing/forward depth. Have interesting bigs.

6. Detroid Pistons- everything depends on Cunningham. I am sceptical he will be contender level first option, not very athletic, mistake prone. They accumulate guards and centers. Smallest asset pool. Bigs cant switch. Most guards cant switch effectively. Bagley and Bey only real forwards. Very bad management imo.

Yeah this is not bias at all. Our 3pt shooting is horrendous, yet it's the best fitting roster. Gimme a break.

[zaymon]

Let's expand this out.

ORL
HOU
OKC
DET
IND

Whose setup do you like best into the future?

Or maybe you'd prefer to go for one of a couple of teardown teams
SAS

1. Orlando Magic- best players. Banchero could be legit 1st option. Best fitting roster. Loaded with forwards. Bigs and guards can switch. Additional draft picks.

2. Oklahoma City Thunder- most assets. SGA looking more like good second option than first option. Without switching bigs. Unproven forwards, Holmgren could have problems switching, Dort undersized, Williams not the most athletic.

3. San Antonio Spurs- they are not the most talented but i like their trajectory. They load up on wings/forwards. Good defensive core. They have some additional assets.

4. Houston Rockets- they have future picks. They have some wing/ forward depth. Talented individuals but mostly selfish, bad decision makers, with character issues. High risk of team implosion becouse of chemistry.

5. Indiana Pacers- not the biggest upside, but they build the right way. Have wing/forward depth. Have interesting bigs.

6. Detroid Pistons- everything depends on Cunningham. I am sceptical he will be contender level first option, not very athletic, mistake prone. They accumulate guards and centers. Smallest asset pool. Bigs cant switch. Most guards cant switch effectively. Bagley and Bey only real forwards. Very bad management imo.

Yeah this is not bias at all. Our 3pt shooting is horrendous, yet it's the best fitting roster. Gimme a break.

Do you even know our current roster Skin ? Becouse it seems you dont.
Pistons, Spurs and Thunder have even worse shooting than we do. Rockets have better shooting, but their best passer is Sengun and they have no rim protection. Pacers have no lead ball handler, good fitting pieces but lower ceiling.
If we want to we can play Anthony/Harris/Wagner/Banchero/Bamba. Only we and Pacers can play solid 5 out.

[pepe1991]

[Skin]

1. Orlando Magic- best players. Banchero could be legit 1st option. Best fitting roster. Loaded with forwards. Bigs and guards can switch. Additional draft picks.

2. Oklahoma City Thunder- most assets. SGA looking more like good second option than first option. Without switching bigs. Unproven forwards, Holmgren could have problems switching, Dort undersized, Williams not the most athletic.

3. San Antonio Spurs- they are not the most talented but i like their trajectory. They load up on wings/forwards. Good defensive core. They have some additional assets.

4. Houston Rockets- they have future picks. They have some wing/ forward depth. Talented individuals but mostly selfish, bad decision makers, with character issues. High risk of team implosion becouse of chemistry.

5. Indiana Pacers- not the biggest upside, but they build the right way. Have wing/forward depth. Have interesting bigs.

6. Detroid Pistons- everything depends on Cunningham. I am sceptical he will be contender level first option, not very athletic, mistake prone. They accumulate guards and centers. Smallest asset pool. Bigs cant switch. Most guards cant switch effectively. Bagley and Bey only real forwards. Very bad management imo.

Yeah this is not bias at all. Our 3pt shooting is horrendous, yet it's the best fitting roster. Gimme a break.

Do you even know our current roster Skin ? Becouse it seems you dont.
Pistons, Spurs and Thunder have even worse shooting than we do. Rockets have better shooting, but their best passer is Sengun and they have no rim protection. Pacers have no lead ball handler, good fitting pieces but lower ceiling.
If we want to we can play Anthony/Harris/Wagner/Banchero/Bamba. Only we and Pacers can play solid 5 out.

Oh so as long as we pair Wagner and Banchero with our 2nd unit, it works? Talk about twisting things to fit a bias. Sheesh.

I like our team, let's just wait for them to get better before crowning them.

[zaymon]

Yeah this is not bias at all. Our 3pt shooting is horrendous, yet it's the best fitting roster. Gimme a break.

Do you even know our current roster Skin ? Becouse it seems you dont.
Pistons, Spurs and Thunder have even worse shooting than we do. Rockets have better shooting, but their best passer is Sengun and they have no rim protection. Pacers have no lead ball handler, good fitting pieces but lower ceiling.
If we want to we can play Anthony/Harris/Wagner/Banchero/Bamba. Only we and Pacers can play solid 5 out.

Oh so as long as we pair Wagner and Banchero with our 2nd unit, it works? Talk about twisting things to fit a bias. Sheesh.

I like our team, let's just wait for them to get better before crowning them.

Ha ha good one. I think Gary Harris will start. I dont think Fultz will rain 3s but lets not forget Suggs shot near 34% in college and he is also 77% free throw shooter. Though its not only about shooting. Its about having lead ball handlers, size, good decision makers, switchable defenders. Which team fits better than us ? I am not crowning us unless there is a crown for best fitting rebuilding team

[drsd]

I assume this is average age. Well: Harris got signed - so there is "some" age, but if/when the Magic trade Ross, Harris at 27 years old will be the long-tooth on the roster, and Cannady will be the only other Magician besides Harris before before 1997.

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[Magicman125]

I like our prospects individually, but don't see how they fit together and view some as redundant with one another. Hopefully Weltham won't take forever to figure out who our guys are going forward and pick a direction after the 22-23 season. I believe in Paolo and Franz, to a degree WCJ, Fultz, Suggs, and Okeke.

[Knightro]

Is this even up-to-date?

Paolo Banchero 19
Caleb Houstan 19
Franz Wagner 20
RJ Hampton 21
Jalen Suggs 21
Cole Anthony 22
Bol Bol 22
Wendell Carter 23
Chuma Okeke 23
Mo Bamba 24
Markelle Fultz 24
Jonathan Isaac 24
Moritz Wagner 25
Devin Cannady 26
Gary Harris 27
Terrence Ross 31

Adds up to 371. Divide that by 16 and you have an average age of 23.2 which if that isn't the youngest in the entire league already, it most certainly will become that when they dump Ross.

[ogmagicfan]

Is this even up-to-date?

Paolo Banchero 19
Caleb Houstan 19
Franz Wagner 20
RJ Hampton 21
Jalen Suggs 21
Cole Anthony 22
Bol Bol 22
Wendell Carter 23
Chuma Okeke 23
Mo Bamba 24
Markelle Fultz 24
Jonathan Isaac 24
Moritz Wagner 25
Devin Cannady 26
Gary Harris 27
Terrence Ross 31

Adds up to 371. Divide that by 16 and you have an average age of 23.2 which if that isn't the youngest in the entire league already, it most certainly will become that when they dump Ross.

The list pepe posted was from beginning of last season. Robin Lopez being 34 skewed it alot

[j_n]

Smith might be mentally crumbling on offense like Fultz did when he came into the league.

That's another reason to bring Fultz off the bench this season so we don't add any pressure.





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Fultz wasn't crumbling, he was dealing with an injury that wasn't diagnosed properly, and neither is Jabari, he didn't start very well but if 3-4 of his misses were makes the entire narrative would have been different, and his defense was incredible, arguably better than Chet's.

[basketballRob]

Smith might be mentally crumbling on offense like Fultz did when he came into the league.

That's another reason to bring Fultz off the bench this season so we don't add any pressure.





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Fultz wasn't crumbling, he was dealing with an injury that wasn't diagnosed properly, and neither is Jabari, he didn't start very well but if 3-4 of his misses were makes the entire narrative would have been different, and his defense was incredible, arguably better than Chet's.

I'm not going to overreact but he didn't look mentally ready for that stage. His misses weren't even close. That's not to say he can't overcome it but it's not a good sign when you shrivel up under the first sign of pressure.

On the flip side Paolo played like he had no pressure.

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