Magic Sign G Kevon Harris to a Two-Way Contract

[pepe1991]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

[drsd]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

And-1

There is literally zero time on the Magic roster for Ross to play any minutes at all. At best he would get 3rd string minutes.

There can only be two paths forward. i) Ross is part of a two for one trade (i.e. G. Harris + Ross + FRP2023 for a 20 ppg SG), or much, much more likely, he will be traded for "nothing" or waived outright.

And either gets Orlando down to 15 roster slots.

In Conclusion: K. Harris as a 2W player does nothing to harm or secure the reality that Ross has no role on this roster.


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[BadMofoPimp]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

Nowhere anywhere has Ross intimated that he doesn't want to be on this team. Just because he doesn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean he doesn't want to be here. He actually posted Yesterday:

Terrence Ross on the Magic: “I feel like everything we didn’t have a season or two ago, we have… I’m literally shooting in the middle of my workout and just in my head thinking… halfway through, I’m like, ‘We could f—— go to the playoffs this year.”

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[pepe1991]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

Nowhere anywhere has Ross intimated that he doesn't want to be on this team. Just because he doesn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean he doesn't want to be here. He actually posted Yesterday:

Terrence Ross on the Magic: “I feel like everything we didn’t have a season or two ago, we have… I’m literally shooting in the middle of my workout and just in my head thinking… halfway through, I’m like, ‘We could f—— go to the playoffs this year.”

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What's there for him to say? He pretty much said in public that he already requested trade ...

“We’re definitely in different spots,” Ross said. “I feel like I’m a part of that old regime, and they’re going in a different direction. I don’t know what they’ve got in store for me. It’s hard to say. They don’t really let me know too much about what they’re doing so. I’m kind of here just along for the ride.” When asked if he planned on having conversations with the Magic’s front office about wanting to be traded, Ross responded: “They know that. They’re well aware of that, so there’s no point. They’re going to do what they want to do regardless.”

His latest comment is him trying to find any motivation for workout, at least that's how it sounds to me. Playing his last prime, impact years on 20 wins team isn't fun.

I will be really shocked if he is still on roster on opening night. There will be some boiling point especially if he ends up being out of rotation for sake of playing some Fultz, Cole or Hampton some min. It's better to do gentelman's divorce than end up in b*** fight.

[BadMofoPimp]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

Nowhere anywhere has Ross intimated that he doesn't want to be on this team. Just because he doesn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean he doesn't want to be here. He actually posted Yesterday:

Terrence Ross on the Magic: “I feel like everything we didn’t have a season or two ago, we have… I’m literally shooting in the middle of my workout and just in my head thinking… halfway through, I’m like, ‘We could f—— go to the playoffs this year.”

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What's there for him to say? He pretty much said in public that he already requested trade ...

“We’re definitely in different spots,” Ross said. “I feel like I’m a part of that old regime, and they’re going in a different direction. I don’t know what they’ve got in store for me. It’s hard to say. They don’t really let me know too much about what they’re doing so. I’m kind of here just along for the ride.” When asked if he planned on having conversations with the Magic’s front office about wanting to be traded, Ross responded: “They know that. They’re well aware of that, so there’s no point. They’re going to do what they want to do regardless.”

His latest comment is him trying to find any motivation for workout, at least that's how it sounds to me. Playing his last prime, impact years on 20 wins team isn't fun.

I will be really shocked if he is still on roster on opening night. There will be some boiling point especially if he ends up being out of rotation for sake of playing some Fultz, Cole or Hampton some min. It's better to do gentelman's divorce than end up in b*** fight.

I am sure he will be moved at some point before the Deadline or season opener, but if he is here, he will be a team player regardless as his posts dictate.

[basketballRob]

Isn't it obvious that Ross will be vaiwed? I mean... i'm saying this for months now. Guy doesn't want to be on team any more, he was shopped around for 2 yeras, first for first round picks, than second round picks, nobody bited.
They can't get rid of him and he has no desire to play here.

Harris and Chuma have taken the role that he used to have and neither of them create so Ross doesn't fit well with them.

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[Def Swami]

Ross has always come off as a pretty genuine guy. He doesn't really fake the funk. Last year sucked. He probably hated not playing competitive basketball last year and sitting on the bench in favor of player development for some of the younger prospects. But, he was clearly hype when the Magic drafted Banchero #1. Circumstances change and as do feelings. The Magic are going to be a fun league pass team next year. Think about all the boring, uninspiring Magic teams Ross was part of. I could see being part of this young, exciting, start up team being a fun proposition for Ross.

The players and coaches all seem to have a pretty good relationship with one another too. I think it says something that Bamba and Harris even entertained coming back. I don't think NBA players view their jobs differently than most average folks view their own. We all want to make a good living, enjoy going to work everyday, feel valued, and live a good family life. We have a good cast of characters and people really like Mosely. Orlando is a great place to live and raise a family. I could see Ross's thought process over the last few years. He's 31 and father time is undefeated. At some point you have to think about your career and future and see how you fit at your current job vs another one. I could also see how being around this group, having a healthy relationship with the GM and coach, and get Banchero could change your outlook on things.

Contrary to what most believe, I don't think the Magic are planning to actively tank. Or not as blatantly as last year. I think they may end up being one of the 5 worst teams in the league, but I think there won't be as much load management or fake injuries during the season if they can help it. I think they're going to roll their team out and see what they can do.

[basketballRob]

I've been saying we need a SG with length for a while. We drafted Houstan and signed Harris, so it looks like the team knows that's where we can improve.

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I really love this team. So dope to be taking our new 2-way guy on a trip. Great people, man.

[Skybox]

Ross has always come off as a pretty genuine guy. He doesn't really fake the funk. Last year sucked. He probably hated not playing competitive basketball last year and sitting on the bench in favor of player development for some of the younger prospects. But, he was clearly hype when the Magic drafted Banchero #1. Circumstances change and as do feelings. The Magic are going to be a fun league pass team next year. Think about all the boring, uninspiring Magic teams Ross was part of. I could see being part of this young, exciting, start up team being a fun proposition for Ross.

The players and coaches all seem to have a pretty good relationship with one another too. I think it says something that Bamba and Harris even entertained coming back. I don't think NBA players view their jobs differently than most average folks view their own. We all want to make a good living, enjoy going to work everyday, feel valued, and live a good family life. We have a good cast of characters and people really like Mosely. Orlando is a great place to live and raise a family. I could see Ross's thought process over the last few years. He's 31 and father time is undefeated. At some point you have to think about your career and future and see how you fit at your current job vs another one. I could also see how being around this group, having a healthy relationship with the GM and coach, and get Banchero could change your outlook on things.

Contrary to what most believe, I don't think the Magic are planning to actively tank. Or not as blatantly as last year. I think they may end up being one of the 5 worst teams in the league, but I think there won't be as much load management or fake injuries during the season if they can help it. I think they're going to roll their team out and see what they can do.

100...My love/hate with Ross is well documented here. He had good reason to be disengaged last year - I think he and the FO had an understanding of his role/future and that they would do right by him (but not at ORL's expense). Nothing appeared so nothing happened. I hate that he played so badly last season but does anyone really doubt that a hyped TRoss could step in and drop 25 on opening night? Sure, he's 'coin-toss Ross', always has been, but he's a proven NBA scoring machine at times...He's been there. Done that-and that means a lot on the biggest stage. We've all read the quotes from his reaction to drafting PB and his thoughts about "we" could make the playoffs, etc but he also, on his podcast, talked about how the cap is expected to jump in a couple of years and salaries will jump with them. He said something about "pushing these knees for a few more years" or something to the effect of rebuilding his value with improved play. ORL should be the beneficiary of that (even if as trade value). Let's face it, he's an expiring deal and if he plays this year like he did last year - he might not even get a minimum offer in two years.

So, he's hyped about the Magic drafting his homeboy from WA, who just happens to bring EXACTLY what he feels ORL needs to compete...AND he's determined to make a push for the next/last payday. Keep an eye on TRoss. Unless the FO wants to sit on their hands for another "evaluation year" (I don't see that) - TRoss will be called on to contribute or be traded. He's healthy, he's motivated personally and he sees hope for what was a hopeless team.

[tiderulz]

Ross has always come off as a pretty genuine guy. He doesn't really fake the funk. Last year sucked. He probably hated not playing competitive basketball last year and sitting on the bench in favor of player development for some of the younger prospects. But, he was clearly hype when the Magic drafted Banchero #1. Circumstances change and as do feelings. The Magic are going to be a fun league pass team next year. Think about all the boring, uninspiring Magic teams Ross was part of. I could see being part of this young, exciting, start up team being a fun proposition for Ross.

The players and coaches all seem to have a pretty good relationship with one another too. I think it says something that Bamba and Harris even entertained coming back. I don't think NBA players view their jobs differently than most average folks view their own. We all want to make a good living, enjoy going to work everyday, feel valued, and live a good family life. We have a good cast of characters and people really like Mosely. Orlando is a great place to live and raise a family. I could see Ross's thought process over the last few years. He's 31 and father time is undefeated. At some point you have to think about your career and future and see how you fit at your current job vs another one. I could also see how being around this group, having a healthy relationship with the GM and coach, and get Banchero could change your outlook on things.

Contrary to what most believe, I don't think the Magic are planning to actively tank. Or not as blatantly as last year. I think they may end up being one of the 5 worst teams in the league, but I think there won't be as much load management or fake injuries during the season if they can help it. I think they're going to roll their team out and see what they can do.

100...My love/hate with Ross is well documented here. He had good reason to be disengaged last year - I think he and the FO had an understanding of his role/future and that they would do right by him (but not at ORL's expense). Nothing appeared so nothing happened. I hate that he played so badly last season but does anyone really doubt that a hyped TRoss could step in and drop 25 on opening night? Sure, he's 'coin-toss Ross', always has been, but he's a proven NBA scoring machine at times...He's been there. Done that-and that means a lot on the biggest stage. We've all read the quotes from his reaction to drafting PB and his thoughts about "we" could make the playoffs, etc but he also, on his podcast, talked about how the cap is expected to jump in a couple of years and salaries will jump with them. He said something about "pushing these knees for a few more years" or something to the effect of rebuilding his value with improved play. ORL should be the beneficiary of that (even if as trade value). Let's face it, he's an expiring deal and if he plays this year like he did last year - he might not even get a minimum offer in two years.

So, he's hyped about the Magic drafting his homeboy from WA, who just happens to bring EXACTLY what he feels ORL needs to compete...AND he's determined to make a push for the next/last payday. Keep an eye on TRoss. Unless the FO wants to sit on their hands for another "evaluation year" (I don't see that) - TRoss will be called on to contribute or be traded. He's healthy, he's motivated personally and he sees hope for what was a hopeless team.

Ross's shooting has gotten worse for 3 years now. if it was only shooting thats one thing, but his offense efficiency and his defense have gotten worse those 3 years also. maybe its motivation? but then he has been picking up a pay check and not motivated for 3 years, and we were not tanking all 3 years.

[Skybox]

Ross has always come off as a pretty genuine guy. He doesn't really fake the funk. Last year sucked. He probably hated not playing competitive basketball last year and sitting on the bench in favor of player development for some of the younger prospects. But, he was clearly hype when the Magic drafted Banchero #1. Circumstances change and as do feelings. The Magic are going to be a fun league pass team next year. Think about all the boring, uninspiring Magic teams Ross was part of. I could see being part of this young, exciting, start up team being a fun proposition for Ross.

The players and coaches all seem to have a pretty good relationship with one another too. I think it says something that Bamba and Harris even entertained coming back. I don't think NBA players view their jobs differently than most average folks view their own. We all want to make a good living, enjoy going to work everyday, feel valued, and live a good family life. We have a good cast of characters and people really like Mosely. Orlando is a great place to live and raise a family. I could see Ross's thought process over the last few years. He's 31 and father time is undefeated. At some point you have to think about your career and future and see how you fit at your current job vs another one. I could also see how being around this group, having a healthy relationship with the GM and coach, and get Banchero could change your outlook on things.

Contrary to what most believe, I don't think the Magic are planning to actively tank. Or not as blatantly as last year. I think they may end up being one of the 5 worst teams in the league, but I think there won't be as much load management or fake injuries during the season if they can help it. I think they're going to roll their team out and see what they can do.

100...My love/hate with Ross is well documented here. He had good reason to be disengaged last year - I think he and the FO had an understanding of his role/future and that they would do right by him (but not at ORL's expense). Nothing appeared so nothing happened. I hate that he played so badly last season but does anyone really doubt that a hyped TRoss could step in and drop 25 on opening night? Sure, he's 'coin-toss Ross', always has been, but he's a proven NBA scoring machine at times...He's been there. Done that-and that means a lot on the biggest stage. We've all read the quotes from his reaction to drafting PB and his thoughts about "we" could make the playoffs, etc but he also, on his podcast, talked about how the cap is expected to jump in a couple of years and salaries will jump with them. He said something about "pushing these knees for a few more years" or something to the effect of rebuilding his value with improved play. ORL should be the beneficiary of that (even if as trade value). Let's face it, he's an expiring deal and if he plays this year like he did last year - he might not even get a minimum offer in two years.

So, he's hyped about the Magic drafting his homeboy from WA, who just happens to bring EXACTLY what he feels ORL needs to compete...AND he's determined to make a push for the next/last payday. Keep an eye on TRoss. Unless the FO wants to sit on their hands for another "evaluation year" (I don't see that) - TRoss will be called on to contribute or be traded. He's healthy, he's motivated personally and he sees hope for what was a hopeless team.

Ross's play has shooting for 3 years now. if it was only shooting thats one thing, but his offense efficiency and his defense have gotten worse those 3 years also. maybe its motivation? but then he has been picking up a pay check and not motivated for 3 years, and we were not tanking all 3 years.

I don't exactly understand what you're saying - but whatever inefficiencies he's shown, you also have to factor in the surrounding circumstances (as well as not overrate 'efficiency' for all player roles).

Last year was just a mess - for TRoss and the Magic. Okeke, Cole, and Suggs sucked too but I'm kind of willing to just write a lot of it off to the G-League tryouts and utter lack of any semblance of lineup consistency or desire to compete...I'm just erasing it in my statistical evaluations.

In prior years with ORL, The Human Torch was a major role player for good ORL teams that weren't very deep. He would come in, guns blazing, total green light to take good shots, bad shots, any shots. Rolling off of Khem Birch picks and shooting contested 3's, while the starters got a break was probably a lot of fun but sure isn't the way to pad your career efficiency stats. Basing your TRoss evaluation on efficiency is like evaluating a fish on his tree climbing ability...it's just not what he brings. But he could still be effective...I don't really disagree with you, I just think he could be a placeholder and a guy who contributes (in a limited role) to a team that wants to compete. He can do very little some nights, but he could also win you a few games with his explosiveness on the offensive end. It's too late in his career to turn him into something else - but I don't think he's toast yet or incapable of contributing.

He's not a guy to build around - at this point or ever, but as I said, "does anyone doubt that an engaged/hyped TRoss could step in and score 25 on any given night?'

[tiderulz]

100...My love/hate with Ross is well documented here. He had good reason to be disengaged last year - I think he and the FO had an understanding of his role/future and that they would do right by him (but not at ORL's expense). Nothing appeared so nothing happened. I hate that he played so badly last season but does anyone really doubt that a hyped TRoss could step in and drop 25 on opening night? Sure, he's 'coin-toss Ross', always has been, but he's a proven NBA scoring machine at times...He's been there. Done that-and that means a lot on the biggest stage. We've all read the quotes from his reaction to drafting PB and his thoughts about "we" could make the playoffs, etc but he also, on his podcast, talked about how the cap is expected to jump in a couple of years and salaries will jump with them. He said something about "pushing these knees for a few more years" or something to the effect of rebuilding his value with improved play. ORL should be the beneficiary of that (even if as trade value). Let's face it, he's an expiring deal and if he plays this year like he did last year - he might not even get a minimum offer in two years.

So, he's hyped about the Magic drafting his homeboy from WA, who just happens to bring EXACTLY what he feels ORL needs to compete...AND he's determined to make a push for the next/last payday. Keep an eye on TRoss. Unless the FO wants to sit on their hands for another "evaluation year" (I don't see that) - TRoss will be called on to contribute or be traded. He's healthy, he's motivated personally and he sees hope for what was a hopeless team.

Ross's play has shooting for 3 years now. if it was only shooting thats one thing, but his offense efficiency and his defense have gotten worse those 3 years also. maybe its motivation? but then he has been picking up a pay check and not motivated for 3 years, and we were not tanking all 3 years.

I don't exactly understand what you're saying - but whatever inefficiencies he's shown, you also have to factor in the surrounding circumstances (as well as not overrate 'efficiency' for all player roles).

Last year was just a mess - for TRoss and the Magic. Okeke, Cole, and Suggs sucked too but I'm kind of willing to just write a lot of it off to the G-League tryouts and utter lack of any semblance of lineup consistency or desire to compete...I'm just erasing it in my statistical evaluations.

In prior years with ORL, The Human Torch was a major role player for good ORL teams that weren't very deep. He would come in, guns blazing, total green light to take good shots, bad shots, any shots. Rolling off of Khem Birch picks and shooting contested 3's, while the starters got a break was probably a lot of fun but sure isn't the way to pad your career efficiency stats. Basing your TRoss evaluation on efficiency is like evaluating a fish on his tree climbing ability...it's just not what he brings. But he could still be effective...I don't really disagree with you, I just think he could be a placeholder and a guy who contributes (in a limited role) to a team that wants to compete. He can do very little some nights, but he could also win you a few games with his explosiveness on the offensive end. It's too late in his career to turn him into something else - but I don't think he's toast yet or incapable of contributing.

He's not a guy to build around - at this point or ever, but as I said, "does anyone doubt that an engaged/hyped TRoss could step in and score 25 on any given night?'

sorry, i had thought i edited it, but i didnt do it correctly. Ross's shooting has declined for 3 years straight now. Im not sure i do believe that Ross could score 25 on any given night, unless it was a green light, who cares about % type of night and just a volume scoring night. and to me, circumstances can affect total ppg, based on how many shots you are taking, game plan, etc. But it shouldnt affect his shooting %'s to drop 3 years straight.

[zaymon]

Its suprising we signed Kevon to 2 years deal. Maybe its telling what kind of guards we want to move forward with. We will propably test a lot of 4-2, 4-1 pick and rolls maybe even 5-1. You need strong guards who can take the hit and skilled forwards who can handle the ball....... we have both. Suggs and Fultz are propably more suited for this type of offense. They can contribute with their bodies if they cant with their jump shot. It looks like we are starting to make moves that make sense from a roster stand point.

[Skin]

Next year we'll draft a SG and Kevon will become an after thought. So will Houstan. Possibly Suggs too.

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