Joshua Primo released by Spurs

[pepe1991]

Former Spurs psychologist Hillary Cauthen has sued the Spurs and Josh Primo and is filing a criminal complaint over alleged incidents involving indecent exposure by Primo, alleging Primo exposed himself nine times to her beginning in December 2021 and the franchise failed to act.


yea... we won't be seeing him in nba again. Good lord

[CZ Eddie]

I thought that whatever you said to your Psychologist would stay with your Psychologist?
I'm a little concerned that she continued to see him after the first time he allegedly exposed himself.
Nine times?!?
Bro, she should have refused to see him way early on and should have referred him to a different sort of "Doctor".

I think she's at least a little to blame for letting this go on the way it did.
Like, 2 percent responsible. Obviously it's not her that's doing weird things but she should be suing herself, not the Spurs. For not doing her job better.

[CZ Eddie]

After the first time, Bob would have been like.... "Uhh, yes, hello.... uhh,,, Police??!"

[AdamTH21]

I thought that whatever you said to your Psychologist would stay with your Psychologist?
I'm a little concerned that she continued to see him after the first time he allegedly exposed himself.
Nine times?!?
Bro, she should have refused to see him way early on and should have referred him to a different sort of "Doctor".

I think she's at least a little to blame for letting this go on the way it did.
Like, 2 percent responsible. Obviously it's not her that's doing weird things but she should be suing herself, not the Spurs. For not doing her job better.

The victim is not to blame.

[CZ Eddie]

I thought that whatever you said to your Psychologist would stay with your Psychologist?
I'm a little concerned that she continued to see him after the first time he allegedly exposed himself.
Nine times?!?
Bro, she should have refused to see him way early on and should have referred him to a different sort of "Doctor".

I think she's at least a little to blame for letting this go on the way it did.
Like, 2 percent responsible. Obviously it's not her that's doing weird things but she should be suing herself, not the Spurs. For not doing her job better.

The victim is not to blame.

Easy thing to say.
You probably didn't even have to read my entire post or think about what I actually said for more than a moment.

[UCF]

Should be done in the league but we know that likely won’t be the case

[PigsEatHam]

I thought that whatever you said to your Psychologist would stay with your Psychologist?
I'm a little concerned that she continued to see him after the first time he allegedly exposed himself.
Nine times?!?
Bro, she should have refused to see him way early on and should have referred him to a different sort of "Doctor".

I think she's at least a little to blame for letting this go on the way it did.
Like, 2 percent responsible. Obviously it's not her that's doing weird things but she should be suing herself, not the Spurs. For not doing her job better.

You're correct that everything said during a session with a psychologist would be confidential, and if she disclosed details about a patient that would be unethical and probably sanctionable by a state medical board.

That makes me think that Primo did what he did out of a clinical, patient/doctor context. She might be a psychologist for the team, but she might not have been HIS psychologist. He could've done this while she was getting a soda from the vending machine or something.

***Edit*** I see now there's an article where the doctor says this happened during her sessions with Primo. That this became public seems somewhat problematic from a medical ethics perspective. Not blaming the victim, not her fault it happened, just surprised anything from a clinical session was disclosed.

[AdamTH21]

I thought that whatever you said to your Psychologist would stay with your Psychologist?
I'm a little concerned that she continued to see him after the first time he allegedly exposed himself.
Nine times?!?
Bro, she should have refused to see him way early on and should have referred him to a different sort of "Doctor".

I think she's at least a little to blame for letting this go on the way it did.
Like, 2 percent responsible. Obviously it's not her that's doing weird things but she should be suing herself, not the Spurs. For not doing her job better.

The victim is not to blame.

Easy thing to say.
You probably didn't even have to read my entire post or think about what I actually said for more than a moment.

Easy thing to say because it's truthful.

Finding it absolutely hilarious that you're trying to respond to me with a condescending attitude when you've just implied that the victim is responsible for this act being committed against her. The fact that your initial response was "well she should've been a better psychologist lol" tells me more than enough about your person.

[CZ Eddie]

Okey-doke.

[davey_wavy]

Had Chicken Primovera tonight for dinner and I couldn’t fully enjoy it got some reason. Felt weird

[Skybox]

Terrible situation but Bouknight passed out in his car with a gun plays the next night and Primo kicked out of the world?

[Knightro]

Let's take it easy on the victim blaming. We don't want to give warnings or bans over something so easily avoidable. Thank you.

[jonbob17]

The Spurs or at least their GM are going to get killed over this. She reported this, said she didn't feel comfortable seeing him, they required that she did, and then didn't pick up her contract, while they did pick up Primo's, and then released him when they realized out the story was going to get out.

Hopefully Popovich is clear and this doesn't tarnish his legacy.

[pepe1991]

This is actually serious stuff, unlike Udoka's "case" of two grown up banging with lot of baggage after they got cought.

[fateis007]

I am not taking sides here or defending Joshua, he is probably done in the league.

But I do always find it very strange when someone decides to press charges and files suit citing multiple incidents over a long period of time. Like after the first time, he should have been arrested, sitting in jail and out of the league. Doesn't mean it's her fault, just doesn't make sense that ANYONE including the orgnization or her would allow such behaviour to go on for so long, like wtf?

Super disturbing situation. Anything predatory like this should be 1 strike and you're out.

[Knightro]

I am not taking sides here or defending Joshua, he is probably done in the league.

But I do always find it very strange when someone decides to press charges and files suit citing multiple incidents over a long period of time. Like after the first time, he should have been arrested, sitting in jail and out of the league. Doesn't mean it's her fault, just doesn't make sense that ANYONE including the orgnization or her would allow such behaviour to go on for so long, like wtf?

Super disturbing situation. Anything predatory like this should be 1 strike and you're out.

If you read her civil complaint, this sports psychologist went to the Spurs pretty much immediately and they essentially (without saying it directly) decided that they didn't believe her by more or less blowing off her requests for an investigation.

Could she have gone to the police? Maybe so, but if the sessions weren't being filmed, she might may not have had proof other than her word against his.

Beyond that, she also stated that working for a highly regarded professional franchise like the Spurs was her dream job. A job that she assuredly did not want to lose. Going to the police over Primo's behavior with no concrete evidence beyond her word certainly could have put her job in jeopardy.

She went to the team first because she felt that was the proper way to handle it. She kept pressing them for a resolution and they gave her the runaround and she ultimately lost her job anyway.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

[fateis007]

I am not taking sides here or defending Joshua, he is probably done in the league.

But I do always find it very strange when someone decides to press charges and files suit citing multiple incidents over a long period of time. Like after the first time, he should have been arrested, sitting in jail and out of the league. Doesn't mean it's her fault, just doesn't make sense that ANYONE including the orgnization or her would allow such behaviour to go on for so long, like wtf?

Super disturbing situation. Anything predatory like this should be 1 strike and you're out.

If you read her civil complaint, this sports psychologist went to the Spurs pretty much immediately and they essentially (without saying it directly) decided that they didn't believe her by more or less blowing off her requests for an investigation.

Could she have gone to the police? Maybe so, but if the sessions weren't being filmed, she might may not have had proof other than her word against his.

Beyond that, she also stated that working for a highly regarded professional franchise like the Spurs was her dream job. A job that she assuredly did not want to lose. Going to the police over Primo's behavior with no concrete evidence beyond her word certainly could have put her job in jeopardy.

She went to the team first because she felt that was the proper way to handle it. She kept pressing them for a resolution and they gave her the runaround and she ultimately lost her job anyway.

It's a bad situation all the way around.

Thanks for the insight, definitley a bad situation and a TERRIBLE look for the spurs. In what other job in the world besides being a high drafted professional athelete, could you have an allegation like that against you and still keep coming to work as usual. Strange times.