2022-2023 Regular Season Game 70: Orlando Magic (28-41) at Phoenix Suns (37-32) - 10pm

[yoyojw17]

Floor spacing exists if player actually takes shots once he gets space.

Gary Harris creates space but almost never shoots, last night you had Chris Paul cheating on defense on multiple occasations because he knew G. Harris simply won't pull a trigger. He spent 27 min to make 2 shots and grab 1 rebound and 1 assist.
He also can't put ball on the floor. He also can't pass. He also can't rebound. He also can't draw f**** fouls to save his life.

In entire nba there are only 14 eligiable "starters" that fit sub 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Problem: majority of those "14 starters" are not actually starters (but started due injuries) and aren't in rotation.

This is whole list of actual starters who are this unproductive:
Gary Harris
Isaac Okoro
Joe Harris

That's a whole list, nobody else is an unproductive and actually started more than 10 games.

LINK : https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?CF=PTS*LE*10:REB*LE*3:AST*LE*3&PlayerExperience=Veteran&StarterBench=Starters&dir=A&sort=GP

You can fam about him as much as you want, he is one of 3 players who are so piss poor in terms of actually contributing to anything tengable.

He isn't complete garbage tho, but he is definition of bench SG, like, play him twice a week for 15 min.

If this doesn't seem to change.... I say.... Free Caleb Houstan. I know he's not shy. lol.
"Rule 1.... play good defense... well... as good as you can..... Rule 2.... shoot the ball if open or comfortable"

GIven we have 10-ish games to play, and there is nothing to be gained by winning. Why not?

I know right.

Watch on YouTube

Makes himself available... and lets it fly. i like that. And at 6'8" ... won't be that easy to block for those recovering on him. Throw him in and see what a high volume 3 point shooter could do... assuming he starts adjusting and making his shots. haha

[Skybox]

Gary Harris should be playing 15 min a game off the bench...and having the same statistics he does as a starter. If he won't shoot, he should go too. Fultz vs Harris is not a thing.

[zaymon]

We lost becouse of lack of shooting like many other games.
What some of you suggest.
Demote our best shooter, build around our worst shooter......
Bad Gary Harris, he just stands there and spaces the floor, what a troglodyte. Nobody needs shooters when you can isolate from midrange. I am sure Mosley told Gary to shoot at volume from midrange like Markelle and Paolo but he is just stubborn and stands in the corner to the detriment of the team...... you guys read what you wrote sometimes ?

Floor spacing exists if player actually takes shots once he gets space.

Gary Harris creates space but almost never shoots, last night you had Chris Paul cheating on defense on multiple occasations because he knew G. Harris simply won't pull a trigger. He spent 27 min to make 2 shots and grab 1 rebound and 1 assist.
He also can't put ball on the floor. He also can't pass. He also can't rebound. He also can't draw f**** fouls to save his life.

In entire nba there are only 14 eligiable "starters" that fit sub 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Problem: majority of those "14 starters" are not actually starters (but started due injuries) and aren't in rotation.

This is whole list of actual starters who are this unproductive:
Gary Harris
Isaac Okoro
Joe Harris

That's a whole list, nobody else is an unproductive and actually started more than 10 games.

LINK : https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?CF=PTS*LE*10:REB*LE*3:AST*LE*3&PlayerExperience=Veteran&StarterBench=Starters&dir=A&sort=GP

You can fam about him as much as you want, he is one of 3 players who are so piss poor in terms of actually contributing to anything tengable.

He isn't complete garbage tho, but he is definition of bench SG, like, play him twice a week for 15 min.

Gary Harris is our best shooter and he doesnt pass open shots. Rest is gameplan and willingness of his teammates to pass.

[pepe1991]

We lost becouse of lack of shooting like many other games.
What some of you suggest.
Demote our best shooter, build around our worst shooter......
Bad Gary Harris, he just stands there and spaces the floor, what a troglodyte. Nobody needs shooters when you can isolate from midrange. I am sure Mosley told Gary to shoot at volume from midrange like Markelle and Paolo but he is just stubborn and stands in the corner to the detriment of the team...... you guys read what you wrote sometimes ?

Floor spacing exists if player actually takes shots once he gets space.

Gary Harris creates space but almost never shoots, last night you had Chris Paul cheating on defense on multiple occasations because he knew G. Harris simply won't pull a trigger. He spent 27 min to make 2 shots and grab 1 rebound and 1 assist.
He also can't put ball on the floor. He also can't pass. He also can't rebound. He also can't draw f**** fouls to save his life.

In entire nba there are only 14 eligiable "starters" that fit sub 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Problem: majority of those "14 starters" are not actually starters (but started due injuries) and aren't in rotation.

This is whole list of actual starters who are this unproductive:
Gary Harris
Isaac Okoro
Joe Harris

That's a whole list, nobody else is an unproductive and actually started more than 10 games.

LINK : https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?CF=PTS*LE*10:REB*LE*3:AST*LE*3&PlayerExperience=Veteran&StarterBench=Starters&dir=A&sort=GP

You can fam about him as much as you want, he is one of 3 players who are so piss poor in terms of actually contributing to anything tengable.

He isn't complete garbage tho, but he is definition of bench SG, like, play him twice a week for 15 min.

Gary Harris is our best shooter and he doesnt pass open shots. Rest is gameplan and willingness of his teammates to pass.

OR His demise as player, complete downfall, lack of desire to be part of offense or simply physical limitations?

I tracked down, in reply to Knighro in similar conversation, how his touches went from 36,32,29,24 to 16 a game each and every season last 6 years. There is word for that: player's phyiscal decline. When you don't have breath, legs, confidence nor skillset to do what you were doing 5,6 years ago when all that wasn't bothering you.


Another evidence of his body that isn't there is best viewed through his dunks.
When he was young (23) he had 48 dunks.
Very next year 27.
Than 25.

Than 10... And in last 3 years he had 17 dunks total including career lowest- two dunks this whole season.

Gary Harris is 29 years old 6'4 person . Transition dunk shouldn't be any issue.

But again, it would also mean that G. Harris attacks paint, and that's simply not true. Gary Harris whole season long only attemped 38 shots inside 3 feet and drew 12 shooting fouls. Twelve.... Twelve... as starting SG. Twelve.