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2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II

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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#1961 » by zaymon » Tue May 23, 2023 6:01 pm

eyriq wrote:
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eyriq wrote:How do we turn Cole and Fultz into FVV?


Leave Cole, cut Fultz, use money on FVV.
Ouch


Its about investing your money wisely. Fultz is crypto, FVV is bank account. Cuting Fultz doesnt make sense if we cant use money better, but many free agents are a lot better salary allocation
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#1962 » by Cammo101 » Tue May 23, 2023 8:07 pm

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Cammo101 wrote:I'd love to package the 6 and 11 for Lillard or Jaylen Brown.

We'd have to add Paolo to even the value.



I wasn't implying that the 6 and 11 was all it would take, but I think we can get a deal done for either of these guys if they hit the market without including Paolo.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#1963 » by Bensational » Tue May 23, 2023 9:05 pm

zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Leave Cole, cut Fultz, use money on FVV.
Ouch


Its about investing your money wisely. Fultz is crypto, FVV is bank account. Cuting Fultz doesnt make sense if we cant use money better, but many free agents are a lot better salary allocation


Not really. Fred is currently paid $22.8M and about to get paid anywhere from $25-30M, maybe more. He’s in his prime at 28 but his game is either stagnating or starting to decline statistically and he regularly misses 20 games a season. The chances of FVV playing well enough to justify his cost is slim to none given he hasn’t performed well enough to justify it to date. The chances of him sustaining his play so the deal feels reasonable is equally doubtful.

In 3 of the 4 years Fred has been a starter since the Raptors won a championship, the team has had a winning record when Fred missed games.

22-23 7W - 6L
21-22 9W - 9L
20-21 5W - 15L
19-20 13W - 5L

Total of 34W - 35L. The guy hasn’t made much positive impact since he became a starter. He’s been 2nd on the team on FGAs averaging 16fgas and he’s only cracked 20ppg in one season.

Fultz is only paid $17.5M next season. If he adds extra volume and accuracy to his 3’s and gets to the FT line more then he easily outplays his contract value and will hold more value than FVV. Fultz is the better investment as a player who has scope for continued growth still. Fred will just depreciate. Fred looks like he could be on the same path Kemba Walker has been on since leaving Charlotte. Sign a huge deal at 29 and then quickly fizzle out of the league.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#1964 » by Audi » Tue May 23, 2023 9:11 pm

zaymon wrote:
eyriq wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Leave Cole, cut Fultz, use money on FVV.
Ouch


Its about investing your money wisely. Fultz is crypto, FVV is bank account. Cuting Fultz doesnt make sense if we cant use money better, but many free agents are a lot better salary allocation


I like the analogy. Fultz is an uncertain future payoff and FVV is depreciating in value as his age inflates.
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Re: 2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II 

Post#1965 » by basketballRob » Tue May 23, 2023 9:54 pm

The Lakers brought DLo off the bench in game 4. That's pretty much signaling that they aren't bringing him back.

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