From 5-20 to 5-4 (2022 to 2023)

[basketballRob]

There are a number of reasons for the improvement:

Paolo playing more point forward. Fran was moved to PG last year and it did not go well. Paolo is much better in the initiator role.

Suggs was injured last year and even when he played, he played injured. This year he is much better and more healthy.

Fultz has been in and out as opposed to out completely.

Black is a really good player for this team. Still wish they had taken Lively over Howard. I could eat those words some day, but Lively is going to be pretty good and a replacement for when Isaac goes down.

Lively was already gone.

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[AaronB]

There are a number of reasons for the improvement:

Paolo playing more point forward. Fran was moved to PG last year and it did not go well. Paolo is much better in the initiator role.

Suggs was injured last year and even when he played, he played injured. This year he is much better and more healthy.

Fultz has been in and out as opposed to out completely.

Black is a really good player for this team. Still wish they had taken Lively over Howard. I could eat those words some day, but Lively is going to be pretty good and a replacement for when Isaac goes down.

Lively was already gone.

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Really???

That you would post this without an ounce of evidence is disappointing.

[Knightro]

Really???

That you would post this without an ounce of evidence is disappointing.

Rob is incorrect and you are correct.

Yes, the Mavericks and Thunder did have an agreed 10 for 12 trade in hand, but the Magic absolutely *could* have blown up their trade and picked Lively at 11 if they were so inclined and there's nothing Dallas or Oklahoma City could have done about it.

The Magic chose Jett Howard over Derek Lively, that is 100% factual information.

[yoyojw17]

Really???

That you would post this without an ounce of evidence is disappointing.

Rob is incorrect and you are correct.

Yes, the Mavericks and Thunder did have an agreed 10 for 12 trade in hand, but the Magic absolutely *could* have blown up their trade and picked Lively at 11 if they were so inclined and there's nothing Dallas or Oklahoma City could have done about it.

The Magic chose Jett Howard over Derek Lively, that is 100% factual information.

Or in a year or so.... we could have been like.... "Man i wish we had taken howard.... such a great shooter"

lol.... p.s. i was down for lively at 11 to shore up the backup center position too... and give us a different type of big... lob threat... shotblocking type. Even during an injured ceiling he was amazing in the defensive department... and YES as a low scorer drastically helped the offensive efficiency of the team. But we will see what happens.

[AaronB]

Really???

That you would post this without an ounce of evidence is disappointing.

Rob is incorrect and you are correct.

Yes, the Mavericks and Thunder did have an agreed 10 for 12 trade in hand, but the Magic absolutely *could* have blown up their trade and picked Lively at 11 if they were so inclined and there's nothing Dallas or Oklahoma City could have done about it.

The Magic chose Jett Howard over Derek Lively, that is 100% factual information.

Of course, I knew what the right information was.

It just seemed odd to me that information that was so factually incorrect was posted so confidently.

It is the internet, all things are possible.

[Skybox]

Really???

That you would post this without an ounce of evidence is disappointing.

Rob is incorrect and you are correct.

Yes, the Mavericks and Thunder did have an agreed 10 for 12 trade in hand, but the Magic absolutely *could* have blown up their trade and picked Lively at 11 if they were so inclined and there's nothing Dallas or Oklahoma City could have done about it.

The Magic chose Jett Howard over Derek Lively, that is 100% factual information.

Of course, I knew what the right information was.

It just seemed odd to me that information that was so factually incorrect was posted so confidently.

It is the internet, all things are possible.

you said disappointing...not surprising though

[Ducklett]

Rob is incorrect and you are correct.

Yes, the Mavericks and Thunder did have an agreed 10 for 12 trade in hand, but the Magic absolutely *could* have blown up their trade and picked Lively at 11 if they were so inclined and there's nothing Dallas or Oklahoma City could have done about it.

The Magic chose Jett Howard over Derek Lively, that is 100% factual information.

Of course, I knew what the right information was.

It just seemed odd to me that information that was so factually incorrect was posted so confidently.

It is the internet, all things are possible.

you said disappointing...not surprising though

This board would have riot if we took a second non-shooter at 11.

[AaronB]

Of course, I knew what the right information was.

It just seemed odd to me that information that was so factually incorrect was posted so confidently.

It is the internet, all things are possible.

you said disappointing...not surprising though

This board would have riot if we took a second non-shooter at 11.

Probably very true and even true within the organization.

I still think Lively was a better fit for this roster, considering how many games the other bigs miss.

One more thing, it did not show up in games, but Lively has a really good shot in practice.

His form is surprisingly good in the videos that I saw.

I thought he was a much better talent than the guy the Warriors took at 2 or so a few years ago based on his workout videos.

[basketballRob]

Of course, I knew what the right information was.

It just seemed odd to me that information that was so factually incorrect was posted so confidently.

It is the internet, all things are possible.

you said disappointing...not surprising though

This board would have riot if we took a second non-shooter at 11.

That was so long ago. I forget. I do know that I wanted us to pick Lively.

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[RookieStar]

5-5 with this starting five: Spencer Dinwiddie, Cam Thomas, Mikal Bridges, Royce O'Neale, Dorian Finney-Smith.

Classic vet team that will never get blow out, but lacks power and depth to win many games.

Playing the Nets is a great learning-test for the Magic. Orlando has more talent, but beating the Nets means keeping TOs low and controlling the tempo.

This is a 50/50 game for Orlando. The kind of game played over and over were the team can win by 5 many times, or lose by 20 many times. Time for school!

We ne3d to punish them down low. Claxton is still out right? That means there isnt a ahotblocker to intimidate the drives of Paolo Frans and Suggs.

DFS Simmons amd Cam are their PFs, i think they cant matchup pound for pound with Paolo.

Claxton played yesterday but Cam Thomas is out

Im talking about Cam Johnson... lol shouldve been clearer...

[RookieStar]

you said disappointing...not surprising though

This board would have riot if we took a second non-shooter at 11.

Probably very true and even true within the organization.

I still think Lively was a better fit for this roster, considering how many games the other bigs miss.

One more thing, it did not show up in games, but Lively has a really good shot in practice.

His form is surprisingly good in the videos that I saw.

I thought he was a much better talent than the guy the Warriors took at 2 or so a few years ago based on his workout videos.

I have a feeling our GMs don't really trust rookie C for this lineup unless they are generational. The Cs they always got had a few "seasons/pounds" under their belt like Moe and Goga.

Also... wish they would have gotten Keyonte!!! Guy is killing it and could have been a Cole replacement. lol

[Edrock]

Technically, could still get to 5-20, why would you jinx it??!?

[eyriq]

Technically, could still get to 5-20, why would you jinx it??!?

LMAO, I could not handle that

[JoshuaPotter]

Technically, could still get to 5-20, why would you jinx it??!?

LMAO, I could not handle that

Oh my.....

[TheChaser]

Please don’t be a jinx thread. Good god why did you do this before 6 wins???

[basketballRob]

Reminds me of when TMac said he was happy we made it out of the first round. Then Detroit put rookie Tashaun Prince on TMac and shut him down for 3 consecutive games, and they won the series.

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[drsd]

Technically, could still get to 5-20, why would you jinx it??!?

Whew that was close.

[TheChaser]

Technically, could still get to 5-20, why would you jinx it??!?

Whew that was close.

Thank God we got to 6 haha