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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 22: Detroit Pistons (2-19) at Orlando Magic (14-7) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 22: Detroit Pistons (2-19) at Orlando Magic (14-7) - 7pm 

Post#301 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 9, 2023 8:41 pm

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this is great lol


Aside from the fact that this guy has a high screechy whiny voice... kinda unfair for the coach. I mean, not all ball players have a high bbiq especially on defense. Besides which, the moves done by Franz and Paolo.... they do that toa ll those guarding them not just Piston players.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 22: Detroit Pistons (2-19) at Orlando Magic (14-7) - 7pm 

Post#302 » by ogmagicfan » Sat Dec 9, 2023 11:26 pm

j_n wrote:Detroit is my least favourite franchise, hated them since they eliminated us in the playoffs in 2007 and 2008.

Their demise has been awesome to watch in the last decade but I think they reached the point where I'm feeling sorry for them and it's not fun anymore, after over 15 years of hating this franchise I am now rooting for the pistons to succeed smh.


Mannn Jason Maxiell & Rip used to kill us. I hated the Pistons as well, but if any franchise is losing for too long you cant help but pity them, don't wanna see any franchise go thru what the Kings went through.

The Magic going 10 years with being bad was hard enough, dont want any fan to go through that. It takes a toll.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 22: Detroit Pistons (2-19) at Orlando Magic (14-7) - 7pm 

Post#303 » by T-Cat » Sat Dec 9, 2023 11:47 pm

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thelead wrote:But would he play defense? Kid looks half asleep all the time.


We should make a trade for Cade and Bagley! This would help our bench tremendously!

What would Detroit want in return?

Why would you want Bagley????


We need scoring off the bench besides Cole! I rather have Wiseman now because we need a potential rim protector we can groom come playoff time!

I would trade Okeke, Wendell Carter Jr. and at least Magic's 2024, 2026 1st and Denver Pick for Cunningham and Wiseman!
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Post#304 » by thelead » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:38 am

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We should make a trade for Cade and Bagley! This would help our bench tremendously!

What would Detroit want in return?

Why would you want Bagley????


We need scoring off the bench besides Cole! I rather have Wiseman now because we need a potential rim protector we can groom come playoff time!

I would trade Okeke, Wendell Carter Jr. and at least Magic's 2024, 2026 1st and Denver Pick for Cunningham and Wiseman!

Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?
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Post#305 » by RookieStar » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:44 am

thelead wrote:
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thelead wrote:Why would you want Bagley????


We need scoring off the bench besides Cole! I rather have Wiseman now because we need a potential rim protector we can groom come playoff time!

I would trade Okeke, Wendell Carter Jr. and at least Magic's 2024, 2026 1st and Denver Pick for Cunningham and Wiseman!

Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?


Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 22: Detroit Pistons (2-19) at Orlando Magic (14-7) - 7pm 

Post#306 » by T-Cat » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:55 am

RookieStar wrote:
thelead wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
We need scoring off the bench besides Cole! I rather have Wiseman now because we need a potential rim protector we can groom come playoff time!

I would trade Okeke, Wendell Carter Jr. and at least Magic's 2024, 2026 1st and Denver Pick for Cunningham and Wiseman!

Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?


Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.


The game against Brooklyn was very alarming because we didn't have a single shot blocking threat when Goga went out the game! The way their guards got to the rim, still gives me nightmares!

Having said all of that, a lengthy more motivated Wiseman would help alleviate our interior woes!

His job this season would be to:

1. Box Out
2. Protect The Paint
3. Rebound
4. Defend without Fouling
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Post#307 » by thelead » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:04 am

T-Cat wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
thelead wrote:Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?


Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.


The game against Brooklyn was very alarming because we didn't have a single shot blocking threat when Goga went out the game! The way their guards got to the rim, still gives me nightmares!

Having said all of that, a lengthy more motivated Wiseman would help alleviate our interior woes!

His job this season would be to:

1. Box Out
2. Protect The Paint
3. Rebound
4. Defend without Fouling


I’m ALL for finding a defensive big but Wiseman ain’t it. Try to get Walker Kessler, Mark Williams, etc. We’re too good to waste time trying to ‘develop’ a guy that has had every opportunity in the world to prove himself.
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Post#308 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:11 am

T-Cat wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
thelead wrote:Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?


Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.


The game against Brooklyn was very alarming because we didn't have a single shot blocking threat when Goga went out the game! The way their guards got to the rim, still gives me nightmares!

Having said all of that, a lengthy more motivated Wiseman would help alleviate our interior woes!

His job this season would be to:

1. Box Out
2. Protect The Paint
3. Rebound
4. Defend without Fouling



He doesn’t do any of the items you listed. He is in fact one of the worst players in the league.
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Post#309 » by RookieStar » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:27 am

T-Cat wrote:
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thelead wrote:Man, do you watch NBA games besides magic games?


Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.


The game against Brooklyn was very alarming because we didn't have a single shot blocking threat when Goga went out the game! The way their guards got to the rim, still gives me nightmares!

Having said all of that, a lengthy more motivated Wiseman would help alleviate our interior woes!

His job this season would be to:

1. Box Out
2. Protect The Paint
3. Rebound
4. Defend without Fouling


I think thats why you were asked of you watched Wiseman play. Dude doesnt do any of thkse things.

However, i will give you that our FO can find treasure in other teams trash and if they see something in Wiseman, then i will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Seriously though, he reminds .e of an ol Magic fave... Steven Hunter. Dude literally looks like the perfect NBA Center complete with muscles. Too bad thats the only thibg going for him.
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Post#310 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:19 am

Finally got to watch this game in its entirety. Yeah, Pistons were going through the motions.
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Post#311 » by Message Boar » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:22 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Finally got to watch this game in its entirety. Yeah, Pistons were going through the motions.

They may be the worst team I've seen in a long while. Like, where's the sense of urgency? Where's the effort to try to avoid a historic losing streak. They don't have the best talent and missing Duren sucks, but they should not be THIS bad.
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Post#312 » by basketballRob » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:56 pm

No Wiseman or Bagley, please. They are so bad. Wiseman and Bagley are worse than Bamba.

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Post#313 » by Bergmaniac » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:05 pm

Wiseman just doesn't have it mentally. I am not talking about effort level (which is poor but that can be fixed) but about his reaction time and decisionmaking on both ends, which are exceptionally poor. When you are that bad at these crucial things you can't succeed in the league unless you are some really freak athlete and even then your ceiling would be low. Wiseman is a very good athlete with great size but not quite freak level by NBA standards so he'll probably be out of the league soon.
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Post#314 » by pepe1991 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:11 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:Wiseman just doesn't have it mentally. I am not talking about effort level (which is poor but that can be fixed) but about his reaction time and decisionmaking on both ends, which are exceptionally poor. When you are that bad at these crucial things you can't succeed in the league unless you are some really freak athlete and even then your ceiling would be low. Wiseman is a very good athlete with great size but not quite freak level by NBA standards so he'll probably be out of the league soon.


He is freak athlete.
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Post#315 » by T-Cat » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:53 pm

RookieStar wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Yeah... as much as i lovED Bagley... we already have Moe. We have problems in the bench when JI cant cover for Moe... and you wanna put Bagley together with Moe???

Now Wiseman???

Although to be fair, we have been extremely lucky picking up trash bigs from other teams and making them productive... Moe and Goga comes to mind.


The game against Brooklyn was very alarming because we didn't have a single shot blocking threat when Goga went out the game! The way their guards got to the rim, still gives me nightmares!

Having said all of that, a lengthy more motivated Wiseman would help alleviate our interior woes!

His job this season would be to:

1. Box Out
2. Protect The Paint
3. Rebound
4. Defend without Fouling


I think thats why you were asked of you watched Wiseman play. Dude doesnt do any of thkse things.

However, i will give you that our FO can find treasure in other teams trash and if they see something in Wiseman, then i will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Seriously though, he reminds .e of an ol Magic fave... Steven Hunter. Dude literally looks like the perfect NBA Center complete with muscles. Too bad thats the only thibg going for him.


Even if Wiseman is bad, he has an qualifying offer next season!

The main idea is we get Cade Cunningham for basically multiple picks and WCJ (Whom the Pistons can flip for more assets).

Cade Cunningham has a few years left on his deal and probably will not sign with the Pistons.

Basically Orlando should take advantage of Troy Weaver's mismanagement in Detroit!
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Post#316 » by pepe1991 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:03 pm

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Finally got to watch this game in its entirety. Yeah, Pistons were going through the motions.

They may be the worst team I've seen in a long while. Like, where's the sense of urgency? Where's the effort to try to avoid a historic losing streak. They don't have the best talent and missing Duren sucks, but they should not be THIS bad.


Longest losing streak ever is 28

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They already lost 19. Given schedule, they might lose 32 in a row :o , especially if they don't beat Utah ( assuming playing against Spurs is best bet to win, given they are on 16 games losing streak :lol: )
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Post#317 » by tooler » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:20 pm

Some sucker team will come out flat and they'll surprise them before 32 in a row. I'm just glad it's not us.
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Post#318 » by Residual-Heat » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:28 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I only watched first half and i couldn't stop laughing how awful Pistons team is. I laughed so hard i woke up my GF. She didn't found that funny :lol:

Of top of my head- Pistons have guy below rim wide open, like guy could order diner, eat, and score- yet they throw pass off rim.
Same set, same outcome, this time around Pistons center can't handle ball and misses layup.
Third set they FINALLY score but it's clear traveling ( ofc not called).

Shooting. They look like group of 50 years old dudes who show up for pickup game after kids are finally put to sleep. Airball, zero organisation, no structure of offense, defense so bad that it's impossible to pin point one thing that doesn't work.

I'm not sure was it Bagley or Wiseman, we have 1,7 sec on a clock on inbound, and somehow he loses 7 footer below rim by trying to "help" on player that is inbounding a ball.

This is highschool team. Not even college team. I feel sorry for Cade, Bojan and Duren, take them out and they would go winless for 82 games.

We still gave them their worst loss of the season though :lol:

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