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Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94

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Sweater Vest No. 16

Poll ended at Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:48 am

Paolo Banchero: 20 PTS, 10 REB, 4 AST, 1 STL, 9-21 FG, +6 in 36 minutes
5
8%
Franz Wagner: 19 PTS, 8 REB, 4 AST, 7-18 FG, +11 in 33 minutes
2
3%
Goga Bitadze: 15 PTS, 7 REB, 2 AST, 4 BLK, 6-8 FG, +8 in 29 minutes
24
38%
Jalen Suggs: 12 PTS, 4 REB, 2 AST, 1 BLK, 4-6 FG, 2-4 3PT, +10 in 28 minutes
27
43%
Jonathan Isaac: 7 PTS, 4 REB, 1 AST, 2 STL, 3-6 FG, +8 in 13 minutes
1
2%
Joe Ingles: 12 PTS, 4 REB, 3 AST, 1 BLK, 2-4 3PT, 6-6 FT in 20 minutes
4
6%
Anthony Black: 3 STL, 1 BLK, +12 (team best) in 19 minutes
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Total votes: 63

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#21 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:30 pm

Goga quietly or loudly making himself 3rd string to 1st string. He has a ton of weaknesses as a starter. Defense isn't one of it. Feels like energy every night might be though.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#22 » by tooler » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:47 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:Feels like energy every night might be though.

Has he struggled with that? I haven't followed it closely.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#23 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:53 pm

tooler wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Feels like energy every night might be though.

Has he struggled with that? I haven't followed it closely.


The last 2 has had him playing with super high intensity. So it kinda overshadows what I have been hearing from him on the radio when I tune in.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#24 » by RichCollab » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:43 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
tooler wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Feels like energy every night might be though.

Has he struggled with that? I haven't followed it closely.


The last 2 has had him playing with super high intensity. So it kinda overshadows what I have been hearing from him on the radio when I tune in.


Questioning GoGa’s energy? Seriously?
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#25 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:49 pm

RichCollab wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
tooler wrote:Has he struggled with that? I haven't followed it closely.


The last 2 has had him playing with super high intensity. So it kinda overshadows what I have been hearing from him on the radio when I tune in.


Questioning GoGa’s energy? Seriously?



Energy is not a problem. His one weakness is his scoring around the basket. He tends to rush things and take a bad attempt. He needs to remember he is a legit 7fter.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#26 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:51 pm

I'm going to say Goga for vest just slight over Suggs because he got us going and help us stay tethered in the 1st half. Suggs with the cummerbund. Paolo and Ingles share the mittens.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#27 » by Last Guardian » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:31 pm

I went with Suggs. I thought Franz/Paolo forced the issue too much. Suggs had to guard the best player and again made him struggle. He is so pivotal to this team. You could make an argument for Goga I just think Suggs had a bigger overall impact on the game.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#28 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:16 pm

I agree with Paolo that Suggs won this game for us.

C: Goga
M: Paolo-->before his injury, it seemed like he was about to have a great second half.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#29 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:31 pm

RichCollab wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
tooler wrote:Has he struggled with that? I haven't followed it closely.


The last 2 has had him playing with super high intensity. So it kinda overshadows what I have been hearing from him on the radio when I tune in.


Questioning GoGa’s energy? Seriously?


I mean seriously? As in. Did I mean it? Sure. I mean everything I type.

Didn't call him lazy.

He is, at least based off what I hear and watch in replays as I can't tune in. A player who relies more on his energy to make an impact on the game over his skills. Likewise he doesn't always "play to his height".

This is not meant to be "we need to trade him, bench him, and so on." Just an attempt at a realistic assessment.

He has the height and I think the toolbox to get 3-4 blks a game. But you see him struggle to make as big an impact in say the last 5 games. 2/5 he seems to absolutely crush it.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#30 » by Knightro » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:53 pm

Tough vote!

I went with...

Vest - Suggs
Cummerbund - Bitadze
Mittens - Ingles
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#31 » by richi_v25 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:48 pm

V- Suggs for being Suggs
C- Ingles for his (2) 3's when we couldn't score
M- Goga playing like a big man the first half
L- Franz & PB scoring the second half
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#32 » by drsd » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:21 pm

THis game is hillaripus as nobody deserves a vest. But wins are wins. And this was a good won.

TO play the game though, and it won't be Black for his +12 on zero points scored, I also cannot go for Banchero (TOs) or F-Wagner (0-fer with long ball).

So, reluctantly, Suggs.
Then the goga-nator for the cummerbund.
And Ingles for the mittens.

Isaac for a lollypop as he had a good game in return,
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#33 » by byeganyo » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:29 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:He has the height and I think the toolbox to get 3-4 blks a game. But you see him struggle to make as big an impact in say the last 5 games. 2/5 he seems to absolutely crush it.


He is 4TH in the whole NBA in block percentage - 4th! So he is elite in terms of blocking currently.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#34 » by GameOver25 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm

Goga - his blocks won me over
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#35 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:45 pm

byeganyo wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:He has the height and I think the toolbox to get 3-4 blks a game. But you see him struggle to make as big an impact in say the last 5 games. 2/5 he seems to absolutely crush it.


He is 4TH in the whole NBA in block percentage - 4th! So he is elite in terms of blocking currently.


That is great! I must be so spoiled watching Ben Wallace, JI, Dwight Howard, and Shaq play for Orlando in my lifetime that mere mortals don't seem as awesome.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#36 » by Knightro » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:05 pm

Final Vest No. 16 Standings
Vest - Jalen Suggs
Cummerbund - Goga Bitadze
Mittens - Joe Ingles (determined via thread comments)

Season Standings (3-2-1 Scale)
Paolo Banchero - 27
Franz Wagner - 21
Jalen Suggs - 15
Cole Anthony - 8
Goga Bitadze - 7
Jonathan Isaac - 6
Moritz Wagner - 6
Anthony Black - 2
Joe Ingles - 2
Wendell Carter - 1
Gary Harris - 1

Vests
Paolo Banchero - 6 (at UTA, v. LAL, v. MIL, at CHI, v. WAS, v. DET)
Jalen Suggs - 3 (at IND, v. TOR, v. CLE)
Moritz Wagner - 2 (at POR, v. BOS)
Cole Anthony - 2 (v. HOU, v. CHA)
Franz Wagner - 2 (v. DEN, v. WAS)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (at CHI)

Cummerbunds
Franz Wagner - 6 (at POR, at UTA, at CHI, v. CHA, v. WAS, v. DET)
Paolo Banchero - 4 (at IND, v. TOR, v. DEN, v. BOS)
Jalen Suggs - 2 (v. MIL, v. WAS)
Goga Bitadze - 2 (at CHI, v. CLE)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (v. HOU)
Anthony Black - 1 (v. LAL)

Mittens
Franz Wagner - 3 (v. HOU, v. MIL, v. BOS)
Goga Bitadze - 3 (v. LAL, at IND, v. DET)
Cole Anthony - 2 (v. TOR, v. WAS)
Jalen Suggs - 2 (at POR, v. WAS)
Joe Ingles - 2 (v. DEN, v. CLE)
Wendell Carter Jr - 1 (at UTH)
Jonathan Isaac - 1 (at CHI)
Gary Harris - 1 (at CHI)
Paolo Banchero - 1 (v. CHA)
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#37 » by eyriq » Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:39 pm

Suggs separating himself. Stay healthy, young stud, and you'll get paid.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #16: Magic 104 - Cavs 94 

Post#38 » by drsd » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:54 am

I miss the Sweater Vest Threads :(

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