So what is wrong with Franz?

[ogmagicfan]

I'm not sure if others have noticed, but Franz on drives & fastbreaks this season runs with a weird gait that doesnt look like he's running full speed, and it looks like he's hunting for fouls alot more on drives instead of focusing more on finishing strong through contact

The shot, i dont really know what to say. I dont think we should approach this with the expectation he'll turn the 3 pt % around this season like last. Last season a big part of the reason he started slow was he was running PG and was exhausted

This looks like a functional issue with trying to change his form, with not enough time put in to make the form stick.

It's just really unfortunate because I'm worried this will be the new normal for Franz until he has time off Summer 2025 to work on it. Trying to change your jump shot mid-season is alot harder than yall make it seem

If yall want the plus side, we should be able to get Franz on a cheaper deal when extending him?

[SOUL]

During the stretch of the game, Paolo actually did worse, much worse than Franz given the minutes he was playing in the 2nd and 3rd. I do not know the stats. But Paolo has been inconsistent this season, very. Some nights he can give you 40 and the other nights he is 3 for 15. That is not All Star caliber. If he wants to be an All Star, he needs to show that consistency. So is Franz!

Well, this thread is about Franz, not Paolo. If you have gripes with Paolo there are threads too.

Franz is now 3-26 in his last 5 games from three.

[pepe1991]

Franz has pretty much identical shot distribution as he had in past two years. I'm not too worried about his 3%.

it's 82 games season

[fendilim]

I suspect its the tired legs affecting his game. He basically had no rest.

[AdamTheGreek]

Growing pains. He’s 22. Paolo experiences the same stuff at 21. Two great talents adapting to opposing team adjustments. It’s going to require a lot of patience as they work through it.

[rusoopE]

Is it possible that any of the stats gurus of the board could research how much Wendell being out influenced Franz statistics and maybe also the stats for Wendell when Franz is out? Have no clue how you check those things sorry.

I know It has nothing to do with franz poor flat 3point shots but I always saw great chemistry and fit between them.

[msmoore66]

I’d take a couple of 2nds for him right now tbh

[Bensational]

Is it possible that any of the stats gurus of the board could research how much Wendell being out influenced Franz statistics and maybe also the stats for Wendell when Franz is out? Have no clue how you check those things sorry.

I know It has nothing to do with franz poor flat 3point shots but I always saw great chemistry and fit between them.

Well spotted. I'm not a stat guru but using this ON/OFF tool it shows a massive difference in efficiency. But looking at others players shows quite a few pairings which have drastically big ON/OFF results with 3pt shooting.

Franz 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 38% (in 7 games) / Wendell OFF = 25% (in 27 games - so including the games played WITH WCJ but minutes when he's on the bench)

Goga ON = 32% (22 games) / Goga OFF = 25% (27 games)

Paolo ON = 33% / Paolo OFF = 14.7%

Cole ON = 17% / Cole OFF = 38%


Paolo 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 25% / Wendell OFF = 41%

Goga & Black ON = 48% (21 games) / Goga & Black OFF = 31%

Cole ON = 48% / Cole OFF = 33%

[Optimus_Steel]

Keep in mind that Franz has played a ton of games with the FIBA tournament so perhaps fatigue? Also, Franz has a track record that he will turn this around.

[MasterGMer]

I deeply think Franz will be fine. Don’t forget he scored 29 two nights ago


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[byeganyo]

Keep in mind that Franz has played a ton of games with the FIBA tournament so perhaps fatigue? Also, Franz has a track record that he will turn this around.

Mo played too and he started the season on fire. Having played in fiba actually should have helped his conditioning at the start of the season.

[rusoopE]

Is it possible that any of the stats gurus of the board could research how much Wendell being out influenced Franz statistics and maybe also the stats for Wendell when Franz is out? Have no clue how you check those things sorry.

I know It has nothing to do with franz poor flat 3point shots but I always saw great chemistry and fit between them.

Well spotted. I'm not a stat guru but using this ON/OFF tool it shows a massive difference in efficiency. But looking at others players shows quite a few pairings which have drastically big ON/OFF results with 3pt shooting.

Franz 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 38% (in 7 games) / Wendell OFF = 25% (in 27 games - so including the games played WITH WCJ but minutes when he's on the bench)

Goga ON = 32% (22 games) / Goga OFF = 25% (27 games)

Paolo ON = 33% / Paolo OFF = 14.7%

Cole ON = 17% / Cole OFF = 38%


Paolo 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 25% / Wendell OFF = 41%

Goga & Black ON = 48% (21 games) / Goga & Black OFF = 31%

Cole ON = 48% / Cole OFF = 33%

Cool! Thx for the info!

[JoshuaPotter]

Is it possible that any of the stats gurus of the board could research how much Wendell being out influenced Franz statistics and maybe also the stats for Wendell when Franz is out? Have no clue how you check those things sorry.

I know It has nothing to do with franz poor flat 3point shots but I always saw great chemistry and fit between them.

Well spotted. I'm not a stat guru but using this ON/OFF tool it shows a massive difference in efficiency. But looking at others players shows quite a few pairings which have drastically big ON/OFF results with 3pt shooting.

Franz 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 38% (in 7 games) / Wendell OFF = 25% (in 27 games - so including the games played WITH WCJ but minutes when he's on the bench)

Goga ON = 32% (22 games) / Goga OFF = 25% (27 games)

Paolo ON = 33% / Paolo OFF = 14.7%

Cole ON = 17% / Cole OFF = 38%


Paolo 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 25% / Wendell OFF = 41%

Goga & Black ON = 48% (21 games) / Goga & Black OFF = 31%

Cole ON = 48% / Cole OFF = 33%

Cool! Thx for the info!

Oh wait....

So is WCJ screens for Franz helping with his look by THAT much?

[drsd]

F-Wagner has a PER of 16.8. It is the 12th highest of all (qualified) SFs in the NBA. He's not just doing OK, he is thriving.

Yes his 3pt-FG% is appalling bad. But all of his other stats, ALL, are better than last year. More points, more rebounds, more FTs, more assists, less TOs. etc.

In his rookie year he shot 35% from distance and last year 36% from distance. Next year he will probably return to the mean at this 35/36% rate. When that happens, he will be a perfectly complete offensive player.

p.s. he is having the best defensive year of his career.

There is nothing "wrong" with Herr Wagner.

[Bensational]

Well spotted. I'm not a stat guru but using this ON/OFF tool it shows a massive difference in efficiency. But looking at others players shows quite a few pairings which have drastically big ON/OFF results with 3pt shooting.

Franz 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 38% (in 7 games) / Wendell OFF = 25% (in 27 games - so including the games played WITH WCJ but minutes when he's on the bench)

Goga ON = 32% (22 games) / Goga OFF = 25% (27 games)

Paolo ON = 33% / Paolo OFF = 14.7%

Cole ON = 17% / Cole OFF = 38%


Paolo 3pt% with:

Wendell ON = 25% / Wendell OFF = 41%

Goga & Black ON = 48% (21 games) / Goga & Black OFF = 31%

Cole ON = 48% / Cole OFF = 33%

Cool! Thx for the info!

Oh wait....

So is WCJ screens for Franz helping with his look by THAT much?

I think it’s less about the direct player-to-player relationship and more about the plays they’re involved in and the quality of looks it creates for different players.

To me, WCJ is more involved in screening action for Paolo, and Franz gets his looks from kickouts and swing passes. Paolo’s presence is clearly having a big impact on Franz’s shooting vs when Paolo is off the court.

I can’t figure out what’s happening on the court between Goga/Black + Paolo or Cole + Paolo to generate such wild disparities in his shooting vs Wendell.

[KillMonger]

His 3pter looks very flat to me, I'm not sure it's ever been that flat.... Needs to be tweaked, because that's the key for him to really become a 20+ ppg threat Every night....

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