2023-2024 Regular Season Game 33: Orlando Magic (19-13) at Golden State Warriors (15-17) - 10pm

[basketballRob]

That Jalen Suggs TO was a killer. Curry then made a 3 to increase the lead to 7 with 2 minutes to go. If we made a basket in that possession, it is a 2 point game. Sometimes one possession can change the entire game.

Plus Franz needs to be more aggressive. He doesn't need to pass up those balls when he is in possession. He just need to straight up attack the hoop and that is the most efficient shot.

Plus Cole hasn't been the same 6th man of the year Cole. He needs to wake up.

Our Guard play is a killer both Phoenix and Golden State. If we want to compete, we need either a wake up call or a trade

Like 5 of his shots were like turnovers because they had no chance.

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[JoshuaPotter]

I listened in. What a game. So close.

I think in this one we were out coached, out played (not by much). This is a game next year we win I think.

To me, rather then hash, re-hash the same weaknesses. Which aren't going to get better until they do at this point. Trying to focus on where we could have won using our strengths and I think this is one of those few games where Kerr seemed to have a good handle on our roster construction and substitution patterns. Winning while playing two rookies at once for example.

Having one of the albiet aging greatest players on your team of all time still helps though.

[Skybox]

Tough loss in a way typical for a young team. Too many mistakes and rushed shots offensively. The defence was pretty mediocre too.

Bizarrely, the Magic had the better 3pt shooting tonight: 14-36 (38.9%) vs 13-35 (37.1%)

And we still lost.

To be fair, Paolo made two threes in the last minute when the game was already over as a contest, without them they outshot us by a bit from 3. But a virtual draw in this area was still obviously a good result for us, we lost because of other factors - bad offensive execution down the stretch, turnovers, poor defense inside, too many missed layups.

What ever happened to Cole being 6th man of the year, the past 2 weeks i don't think he's even hit his own average of 14pt? We really need both JI's back.

That talk showed how dumb the criteria for 6th man of the year is, Cole was the third best bench player on his own team, both Ingles and JI were better if you actually watched the game and not just the PPG in the boxscore. But he scored the most PPG on our bench unit and the bench was doing great, so he got 6th man of the year hype.

Only place I heard that hype was David Steele, Dennis Neumann, and RealGM

[p0peye]

Agreed…Ingles could be considered an experiment. Now we can see where we need to invest more heavily in a younger high BBIQ guy. Also concerning that our guys look so bad without him. I think that’s who they really are.

I like your idea of ATL Bogey. FVV would have had similar effect on starters…HOU success is all about vet leadership on court

Did anyone suggesting Bogi lookup his total of games played in last 5 seasons?

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203992

Ouch…still would be middle of our vets for durability

Hey, I watched him play in Partizan when he was but a teenager. Bogdan is a great basketball player, but he has a lot of mileage on his body playing professional basketball for so long.

[basketballRob]

I just looked at Minnesota, OKC, and Boston, and they have 1 injury between them, and that's a backup SG for the Twolves that I've never heard of.



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[basketballRob]

I listened in. What a game. So close.

I think in this one we were out coached, out played (not by much). This is a game next year we win I think.

To me, rather then hash, re-hash the same weaknesses. Which aren't going to get better until they do at this point. Trying to focus on where we could have won using our strengths and I think this is one of those few games where Kerr seemed to have a good handle on our roster construction and substitution patterns. Winning while playing two rookies at once for example.

Having one of the albiet aging greatest players on your team of all time still helps though.

Suggs was out of control on offense and played a big role in the loss. About 10 possessions he just gave away with horrible shots and passes. Suggs isn't a creator in the half court. Like 5 times, he tried to post up players just to have it blocked away, or the shot had no chance of going in.

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[JoshuaPotter]

I listened in. What a game. So close.

I think in this one we were out coached, out played (not by much). This is a game next year we win I think.

To me, rather then hash, re-hash the same weaknesses. Which aren't going to get better until they do at this point. Trying to focus on where we could have won using our strengths and I think this is one of those few games where Kerr seemed to have a good handle on our roster construction and substitution patterns. Winning while playing two rookies at once for example.

Having one of the albiet aging greatest players on your team of all time still helps though.

Suggs was out of control on offense and played a big role in the loss. About 10 possessions he just gave away with horrible shots and passes. Suggs isn't a creator in the half court. Like 5 times, he tried to post up players just to have it blocked away, or the shot had no chance of going in.

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Yeah I was listening in via radio and let me say that dude has his Magic homer glasses on 99.9% of the time unless he is watching instant replay. That is unfortunate if Suggs had a bad game. He usually goes off on the warriors.

[basketballRob]

I listened in. What a game. So close.

I think in this one we were out coached, out played (not by much). This is a game next year we win I think.

To me, rather then hash, re-hash the same weaknesses. Which aren't going to get better until they do at this point. Trying to focus on where we could have won using our strengths and I think this is one of those few games where Kerr seemed to have a good handle on our roster construction and substitution patterns. Winning while playing two rookies at once for example.

Having one of the albiet aging greatest players on your team of all time still helps though.

Suggs was out of control on offense and played a big role in the loss. About 10 possessions he just gave away with horrible shots and passes. Suggs isn't a creator in the half court. Like 5 times, he tried to post up players just to have it blocked away, or the shot had no chance of going in.

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Yeah I was listening in via radio and let me say that dude has his Magic homer glasses on 99.9% of the time unless he is watching instant replay. That is unfortunate if Suggs had a bad game. He usually goes off on the warriors.

If he just played average, we probably win the last 2 games. One of his turnovers was given to Paolo. Suggs just let the pass go right through his hands during crunch time. Paolo looked disgusted with him.

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[OrlChamps2030]

Our backcourt is just miserable right now

Not like anyone saw it coming or anything..

[MartinsIzAfraud]

It's becoming painfully obvious that this team needs a PG who can run an offense. It's almost like they don't even watch games and just box score pick and are happy we're close.

[Optimus_Steel]

Couldn't really watch with focus but looked like Paolo and Franz got no help from the guards and also too many turnovers. Magic actually had a slight lead in the 4th quarter, game was winnable but youth, turnovers, and lack of spacing in late game situations hurt the Magic again. Once the front office decides they want to improve the guard situation this team is going to be elite, we are not far off.

[zaymon]

We have no one to run halfcourt offense outside Ingles. Its painfully obvious. Sadly i dont see that much improvement from Suggs, he just stopped to do anything outside transition and less and less accurate 3s.
Black does the same thing minus bombing 3s and thats propably by design.
Cole is small sg, spark from the bench, more 8-9 guy than 6.
We shouldnt panic, we are really young, but its so frustrating to watch knowing teams have reserves playing better on offense than our starting guards.....

[SloNick Russia]

Suggs was fine on 3-7 on trees, but missed all the layups, like he used to do in the rookie season. Guarding Curry is not an easy task, he did his best. His handles and passing are not at the PG level, but fortunately he has the size defense to play SG going forward.

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[crazytown]

This team’s 4th quarter offense is brutal to watch. A legit PG should be number one priority.

[Def Swami]

Both teams were 13-35 from 3. But our 16 turnovers really stood out to me tonight. We just consistently cough up possessions every night. This team needs better point guard play in the worst way.

Who really runs the offense though? We're almost halfway through the season and I have no idea if AB is capable of running an NBA offense.

Even Cole doesn't really run many plays. He brings the ball up the court and we begin the 'pass the ball around the arc' before we get into some ISO set with 8-10 seconds on the clock.

Banchero has effectively been the point guard. And it's just not fair to him.

[Bensational]

Both teams were 13-35 from 3. But our 16 turnovers really stood out to me tonight. We just consistently cough up possessions every night. This team needs better point guard play in the worst way.

Who really runs the offense though? We're almost halfway through the season and I have no idea if AB is capable of running an NBA offense.

Even Cole doesn't really run many plays. He brings the ball up the court and we begin the 'pass the ball around the arc' before we get into some ISO set with 8-10 seconds on the clock.

Banchero has effectively been the point guard. And it's just not fair to him.

To me the elephant in the room has been Paolo’s near complete absence in off-ball activity. It feels like Mosley’s offense is designed to keep one of Paolo or Franz on the perimeter at all times as a bail out option if they aren’t the one attacking, rather than involving them in any consistent 2-man game between them and anyone.

Is it because Paolo doesn’t want to be a roll man? Who can change his mind on that if Mosley can’t? Would Chris Paul be able to get him to see the light?

But if Paolo stays at point, Mosley has to get him to develop some chemistry and consistent plays between guys. Franz and Moe at least have their brotherly connection.