Isaiah Joe, why not ?

[three3d]

Everyone is focused on Paul George, Klay Thompson, and KCP BUT Isaiah Joe is sitting out there as an unrestricted free agent. A 24 year old guard that shot 40.9% and 41.6% from the 3 point line the last two season for a loaded OKC team and we aren’t talking about him, why? I get it, yea they probably had a wink wink deal but can we not swoop in with the cap we have and offer him a bigger deal or perhaps even a bigger role here in Orlando? If they are serious about PG13 that means they have already decided to play Suggs at the point, in that case why not add Joe who could blow up here in Orlando and take the next step? Paul George has a short shelf life compared to these younger guys like Isiah Joe and Anfernee Simons.

[fendilim]

I believe the Thunder have a wink wink deal with him. Thats how i believe the tweet by woj seems to suggest

[three3d]

I believe the Thunder have a wink wink deal with him. Thats how i believe the tweet by woj seems to suggest

Im sure they do, but we don’t know what that deal is dollar wise but safe to say he’s still going to be coming off the bench. We could offer him the starting slot and more money I’d have to believe.

[tiderulz]

because we already have a great SG in Suggs.

[Knightro]

They have a “wink, wink nudge nudge this is illegal, but no one cares to enforce it” agreement.

They let him out of of his contract early in order to pay him more and in exchange he agreed to not seek a bigger deal from somebody else.

Not legal according to the CBA, but no one is gonna punish them for it.

[three3d]

They have a “wink, wink nudge nudge this is illegal, but no one cares to enforce it” agreement.

They let him out of of his contract early in order to pay him more and in exchange he agreed to not seek a bigger deal from somebody else.

Not legal according to the CBA, but no one is gonna punish them for it.

BUT they have opened a door and all his agent has to do is answer the phone theoretically. The FO just has to do their due diligence and attempt, that’s all. As far as his fit he’s a dangerous shooter, much younger than the other so called shooters and cheaper. If we would be willing to offer him a starting spot and let’s say $15-$18M maybe that’s an offer he didn’t expect and has to consider. I don’t think OKC is offering him starter money because his role remains a bench player with them.

[three3d]

Joe is represented by Michael Conley Sr whose only other client is his son. Maybe getting his only client a pay day is something he’s also be interested in as well as getting him a starting role. It’s not like we’d be dealing with an agent that has it out for us and refuses to hear us out.

[three3d]

This is how the phone call should go. Look Isaiah it’s no secret PG-13 wants to meet with us today, but before we do that we want to talk to you. We are fully prepared to offer you the starting guard spot and $18 million per season alone with incentives. Those incentives are you will be top 10 in the league in 3 point field goal attempts. And top 15 in 3 point FG%. Basically we want you to shoot the damn ball and be who you are and take us where we want to go. You agree with this today and we cancel the PG-13 meeting and move on to adding a center and building this roster to help you.

[Knightro]

It's not going to happen. There's an unspoken agreement among agents and general managers to literally not do what you have just suggested.

[three3d]

It's not going to happen. There's an unspoken agreement among agents and general managers to literally not do what you have just suggested.

I don’t believe there was any talk about Joe being available, he was on such a great friendly contract maybe it wasn’t speculated for this period.

He was a 2nd round pick ( another example of why we shouldn’t be giving up 2nd round picks ) if he wants to maximize his earning potential you do so by being a starter.

OKC can’t offer him a starting position with SGA and Caruso

I get it and I know unlikely BUT we have the money and we have a starting spot. How many other teams can offer him BOTH big pay and starting from day 1 ?

[Knightro]

It's not going to happen. There's an unspoken agreement among agents and general managers to literally not do what you have just suggested.

I don’t believe there was any talk about Joe being available, he was on such a great friendly contract maybe it wasn’t speculated for this period.

He was a 2nd round pick ( another example of why we shouldn’t be giving up 2nd round picks ) if he wants to maximize his earning potential you do so by being a starter.

OKC can’t offer him a starting position with SGA and Caruso

I get it and I know unlikely BUT we have the money and we have a starting spot. How many other teams can offer him BOTH big pay and starting from day 1 ?

Think about it this way...

You know how we're all certain that Moe Wagner is going to resign? It's because there's an unspoken agreement for him to return and his declined option was pure cap manipulation.

His agent won't screw the Magic by negotiating with somebody else.

It has absolutely nothing to do with basketball fit or anything else.

[three3d]

It's not going to happen. There's an unspoken agreement among agents and general managers to literally not do what you have just suggested.

I don’t believe there was any talk about Joe being available, he was on such a great friendly contract maybe it wasn’t speculated for this period.

He was a 2nd round pick ( another example of why we shouldn’t be giving up 2nd round picks ) if he wants to maximize his earning potential you do so by being a starter.

OKC can’t offer him a starting position with SGA and Caruso

I get it and I know unlikely BUT we have the money and we have a starting spot. How many other teams can offer him BOTH big pay and starting from day 1 ?

Think about it this way...

You know how we're all certain that Moe Wagner is going to resign? It's because there's an unspoken agreement for him to return and his declined option was pure cap manipulation.

His agent won't screw the Magic by negotiating with somebody else.

It has absolutely nothing to do with basketball fit or anything else.

Different set of circumstances though isn’t there for Mo vs Isiah Joe? For one his brother is here of course and I think that’s the #1 reason he’s staying. I couldn’t see anyone offering Mo the starting center position and pay.

Where as for Isiah Joe I’m saying he’s definitely starting for us and going to have a much bigger role.

Anyway I’m just bringing it up, I agree it’s probably a wink wink deal BUT I see a chance to actually make some headlines and snipe someone we didn’t think would be
Available.

[tiderulz]

This is how the phone call should go. Look Isaiah it’s no secret PG-13 wants to meet with us today, but before we do that we want to talk to you. We are fully prepared to offer you the starting guard spot and $18 million per season alone with incentives. Those incentives are you will be top 10 in the league in 3 point field goal attempts. And top 15 in 3 point FG%. Basically we want you to shoot the damn ball and be who you are and take us where we want to go. You agree with this today and we cancel the PG-13 meeting and move on to adding a center and building this roster to help you.

starting SG and $18mil a year? are you his brother or something? undersized bench SG does not deserve this

and again, we have a great SG in Suggs. we need a PG

[three3d]

This is how the phone call should go. Look Isaiah it’s no secret PG-13 wants to meet with us today, but before we do that we want to talk to you. We are fully prepared to offer you the starting guard spot and $18 million per season alone with incentives. Those incentives are you will be top 10 in the league in 3 point field goal attempts. And top 15 in 3 point FG%. Basically we want you to shoot the damn ball and be who you are and take us where we want to go. You agree with this today and we cancel the PG-13 meeting and move on to adding a center and building this roster to help you.

starting SG and $18mil a year? are you his brother or something? undersized bench SG does not deserve this

and again, we have a great SG in Suggs. we need a PG

We have a small forward and a power forward so why are people praying for Paul George?

[RichCollab]

Joe isn’t a starter for me. What’s the cost for the bench?

Isn’t Seth Curry a free agent too. lol

[tiderulz]

This is how the phone call should go. Look Isaiah it’s no secret PG-13 wants to meet with us today, but before we do that we want to talk to you. We are fully prepared to offer you the starting guard spot and $18 million per season alone with incentives. Those incentives are you will be top 10 in the league in 3 point field goal attempts. And top 15 in 3 point FG%. Basically we want you to shoot the damn ball and be who you are and take us where we want to go. You agree with this today and we cancel the PG-13 meeting and move on to adding a center and building this roster to help you.

starting SG and $18mil a year? are you his brother or something? undersized bench SG does not deserve this

and again, we have a great SG in Suggs. we need a PG

We have a small forward and a power forward so why are people praying for Paul George?

the only thing i can see, PG can defend multiple positions, good passer and good shooter. If someone really believes Joe can make some great jump, then maybe so, but i just dont see it in his measurables and play.

[anothermagicfan]

Why pay 18m for Cole lite when we have Cole cheaper?