Need a PG! Need FO to show some humility and acknowledge they need a real PG!

[ORLMagicGirl15]

For those saying Schroeder puts up stats on a bad team

How many of our guards could put up stats in a bad team??

Cole did in his rookie and sophomore year.

[orlando_joe]

His name is Paolo

The bench name is Cole.

If you just want ANYONE with anemic efficiency. I guess I can lace up.

For single season, i would take Schroder over Cole 100 out of 100 times.
Right now Cole isn't even playable.

This is at best rose colored glasses thinking and worst grass is greener on the other side.

I would rather Anthony Black + Paolo struggle with reps then find another stop gap. Specifically after just 1 game, where offenses stalled on both sides.

and on top of that franz being sick

[JoshuaPotter]

There is no real downside to this. There isn't really an argument otherwise outside of "no, who is available?" like refusing to believe players can't be moved.

- Cole hasn't been playable.
- Orlando isn't likely using the Denver pick.
- AB isn't ready to or hasn't shown the ability to "run" offense. (that isn't necessarily disparaging to him)
- Moe has looked BAD without Ingles or someone to run things in the secondary.
- There are multiple players NOW in Orlando that wont or can't see playing time barring various injuries.
- Orlando's core development is more important than praying AB becomes the guy 1-2 years from now or adding more to Suggs plate.
- It's so glaringly obvious how stagnant the offense becomes. It's the worst aspect of how this team is developing and Orlando's achilles heel since last season + playoffs.

Here is probably the first time we have disagreed in a while because we typically agree more then disagree.

Who is going to trade for our crap players without giving up something, and if we are giving up something, what are we doing to commit to that something?

We have agreed that not playing AB over Fultz was a mistake. That not tradinng Fultz when he had value is going to end up being a long term regret.

Well here, we are, still together. If the deal exists and all it takes is Cole Anthony and one of our predicted crappy 1sts then sure, yeah do it. But that's the thing, it likely doesn't and likely costs more. For what? Well it turns into a lot of "it depends". We are tossing one player around like its an idea for a short term commitment, but like why ship Cole + a 1st for a 1 year commitment, lets pretend they say yes, then the discussion becomes....could we have done better?

Little bit of what if from me there which I hate. I just know, that whomever we trade for, the moment he has a bad string of games, he will get his very own "elephant" thread.

[VFX]

There is no real downside to this. There isn't really an argument otherwise outside of "no, who is available?" like refusing to believe players can't be moved.

- Cole hasn't been playable.
- Orlando isn't likely using the Denver pick.
- AB isn't ready to or hasn't shown the ability to "run" offense. (that isn't necessarily disparaging to him)
- Moe has looked BAD without Ingles or someone to run things in the secondary.
- There are multiple players NOW in Orlando that wont or can't see playing time barring various injuries.
- Orlando's core development is more important than praying AB becomes the guy 1-2 years from now or adding more to Suggs plate.
- It's so glaringly obvious how stagnant the offense becomes. It's the worst aspect of how this team is developing and Orlando's achilles heel since last season + playoffs.

Here is probably the first time we have disagreed in a while because we typically agree more then disagree.

Who is going to trade for our crap players without giving up something, and if we are giving up something, what are we doing to commit to that something?

We have agreed that not playing AB over Fultz was a mistake. That not tradinng Fultz when he had value is going to end up being a long term regret.

Well here, we are, still together. If the deal exists and all it takes is Cole Anthony and one of our predicted crappy 1sts then sure, yeah do it. But that's the thing, it likely doesn't and likely costs more. For what? Well it turns into a lot of "it depends". We are tossing one player around like its an idea for a short term commitment, but like why ship Cole + a 1st for a 1 year commitment, lets pretend they say yes, then the discussion becomes....could we have done better?

Little bit of what if from me there which I hate. I just know, that whomever we trade for, the moment he has a bad string of games, he will get his very own "elephant" thread.

I don't think any of the names that have been listed far exceed value's of a first round pick + buried prospects that don't see minutes for some of these tanking or developing teams. Cole included.

Cole Anthony at this juncture is only providing value as a locker room guy at this point. Why? Because if he isn't capable of running offense or scoring in the second unit, then he isn't super valuable to Orlando. AB will be starting here eventually next to Suggs (or should be).

I think what people are missing in all of this is timeframe and development. Orlando just needs a guy to fill in until AB can start running an offense. It's not necessarily about squeezing out wins as much as it is about getting Franz, Paolo, and Suggs comfortable with running an offense that makes sense while they develop their games.

Right now they are developing on impossible mode trying to do absolutely everything on offense without the ball movement a legitimate veteran guard can provide. They only need this player for like 1-2 seasons max.

[Knightro]

My eyes just glaze over at the idea of people thinking any NBA team should add Dennis Schroder to their mix.

He is a bad player.

People hate Cole? Well Dennis is basically an older version of Cole. A guy who likes to pound the air out of the ball and can score when everything is going right, but doesn't shoot well and doesn't defend well.

Total stay away for me.

[JoshuaPotter]

My eyes just glaze over at the idea of people thinking any NBA team should add Dennis Schroder to their mix.

He is a bad player.

People hate Cole? Well Dennis is basically an older version of Cole. A guy who likes to pound the air out of the ball and can score when everything is going right, but doesn't shoot well and doesn't defend well.

Total stay away for me.

Me : *looks at post* - *looks down at lunch* - *looks back up and re-reads post* - *scary realization that we agree creeps in* - *slowly takes one more bite before wondering if its what I am eating* - *re-reads post* - *puts food down* -

It must be the day after halloween and or what I am eating. But we are agreeing. I'm not sure there is an upgrade and the window where I really wanted one, feels like it closed the moment Cole is benched over Anthony Black.

Maybe this changes a little with the Paolo injury. Maybe.