2024-2025 Regular Season Game 11: Washington Wizards (2-5) at Orlando Magic (4-6) - 6pm

[Knightro]

Jalen needs to get his head out of his ass. He hasn't been very good since Paolo went down.

6-31 (19.4%) from 3PT since Paolo went down

[zaymon]

Jalen needs to get his head out of his ass. He hasn't been very good since Paolo went down.

He looked good as spot up shooter. You give him more on ball duties and he struggles.

[ibraheim718]

Jalen needs to get his head out of his ass. He hasn't been very good since Paolo went down.

6-31 (19.4%) from 3PT since Paolo went down

Paolo is so important to everyone on the team. I hope fans will always appreciate that.

[ibraheim718]

Jalen needs to get his head out of his ass. He hasn't been very good since Paolo went down.

He looked good as spot up shooter. You give him more on ball duties and he struggles.

Well and he is always expending so much energy on D. He's a good 3rd facilitator and spot up shooter who makes a lot of plays. If he's going to be a primary or secondary facilitator he has to tone it back on defense.

[pepe1991]

if only whole league is as incompetent as Wizards

Wizards losing margin is 20,3 points a game

We did our job. Somebody would have to put gun on my head to force me to watch Wizards again this year. This isn't even college level. GM that puts Bagley, Kuzma and Poole on some roster deserves introduction to Hall of Shame.

They're starting 3 rookies. I actually think their future looks pretty bright.. but then again philosophies.

After everything they did in past several years?

Their current history with picks:
Troy Brown- 2018, 15# pick- out of nba.
Hachimura -2019, 9th pick -traded for second round picks
Avdija -2020, 9th pick ,after few years of waiting, he finally had good year- and they traded him
Corey Kispert- 2021, 15th pick, rotation player
Johnny Davis, 2020, 10th pick- bust

Tristan Vukčević, 2023, 42# pick, gave him 10 games, i can't even find where he is at now, i assume G league.

Who gave Dallas firepower to be contender? Wizards. Why? Because...reasons?

Gafford (age 25) was traded for 24th pick (Dillon Jones) who is yet to play serious min, but they went to FA to burn money on Jonas Valančiūnas (32).
They also drafted PJ Washington in 2019 ( lottery pick, 12th overall) for two second round picks and Dallas 2027 first round pick.
They elected not to trade Tyus Jones at trade deadline, just to let him walk in FA and having 0 PGs on roster today


There is pattern of behavior. Start raw, uncooked rookies, throw them into a fire on teams without any structure, burn them out, trade them for low value and start over with new set of lottery selected players.

I don't understand what can young players learn from a team that is bound for top 3 worst offense and defense ( while being favorite for being the worst in both categories). In same time you contaminate their line of thinking with guys like Poole, Kuzma making $30M a year by stat padding on team that isn't even close to being competitive.


Maybe Sarr and Coulibaly and "draft French youth roster" draft strategy saves them. Maybe. Or they will trade them in 3 years for more picks. Who knows. But i know one thing for sure, i'm not watching them again this season.

[eyriq]

if only whole league is as incompetent as Wizards

Wizards losing margin is 20,3 points a game

We did our job. Somebody would have to put gun on my head to force me to watch Wizards again this year. This isn't even college level. GM that puts Bagley, Kuzma and Poole on some roster deserves introduction to Hall of Shame.

They're starting 3 rookies. I actually think their future looks pretty bright.. but then again philosophies.

After everything they did in past several years?

Their current history with picks:
Troy Brown- 2018, 15# pick- out of nba.
Hachimura -2019, 9th pick -traded for second round picks
Avdija -2020, 9th pick ,after few years of waiting, he finally had good year- and they traded him
Corey Kispert- 2021, 15th pick, rotation player
Johnny Davis, 2020, 10th pick- bust

Tristan Vukčević, 2023, 42# pick, gave him 10 games, i can't even find where he is at now, i assume G league.

Who gave Dallas firepower to be contender? Wizards. Why? Because...reasons?

Gafford (age 25) was traded for 24th pick (Dillon Jones) who is yet to play serious min, but they went to FA to burn money on Jonas Valančiūnas (32).
They also drafted PJ Washington in 2019 ( lottery pick, 12th overall) for two second round picks and Dallas 2027 first round pick.
They elected not to trade Tyus Jones at trade deadline, just to let him walk in FA and having 0 PGs on roster today


There is pattern of behavior. Start raw, uncooked rookies, throw them into a fire on teams without any structure, burn them out, trade them for low value and start over with new set of lottery selected players.

I don't understand what can young players learn from a team that is bound for top 3 worst offense and defense ( while being favorite for being the worst in both categories). In same time you contaminate their line of thinking with guys like Poole, Kuzma making $30M a year by stat padding on team that isn't even close to being competitive.


Maybe Sarr and Coulibaly and "draft French youth roster" draft strategy saves them. Maybe. Or they will trade them in 3 years for more picks. Who knows. But i know one thing for sure, i'm not watching them again this season.

This is a new regime in Washington

[ibraheim718]

if only whole league is as incompetent as Wizards

Wizards losing margin is 20,3 points a game

We did our job. Somebody would have to put gun on my head to force me to watch Wizards again this year. This isn't even college level. GM that puts Bagley, Kuzma and Poole on some roster deserves introduction to Hall of Shame.

They're starting 3 rookies. I actually think their future looks pretty bright.. but then again philosophies.

After everything they did in past several years?

Their current history with picks:
Troy Brown- 2018, 15# pick- out of nba.
Hachimura -2019, 9th pick -traded for second round picks
Avdija -2020, 9th pick ,after few years of waiting, he finally had good year- and they traded him
Corey Kispert- 2021, 15th pick, rotation player
Johnny Davis, 2020, 10th pick- bust

Tristan Vukčević, 2023, 42# pick, gave him 10 games, i can't even find where he is at now, i assume G league.

Who gave Dallas firepower to be contender? Wizards. Why? Because...reasons?

Gafford (age 25) was traded for 24th pick (Dillon Jones) who is yet to play serious min, but they went to FA to burn money on Jonas Valančiūnas (32).
They also drafted PJ Washington in 2019 ( lottery pick, 12th overall) for two second round picks and Dallas 2027 first round pick.
They elected not to trade Tyus Jones at trade deadline, just to let him walk in FA and having 0 PGs on roster today


There is pattern of behavior. Start raw, uncooked rookies, throw them into a fire on teams without any structure, burn them out, trade them for low value and start over with new set of lottery selected players.

I don't understand what can young players learn from a team that is bound for top 3 worst offense and defense ( while being favorite for being the worst in both categories). In same time you contaminate their line of thinking with guys like Poole, Kuzma making $30M a year by stat padding on team that isn't even close to being competitive.


Maybe Sarr and Coulibaly and "draft French youth roster" draft strategy saves them. Maybe. Or they will trade them in 3 years for more picks. Who knows. But i know one thing for sure, i'm not watching them again this season.

Forget about what they've done the in the past. Looked at what they're doing now.. they have identified a style they want to play which is fast and they have identified the type of player they want to target which are 2-way players.

[pepe1991]

it's same GM ( Will Dawkins) since June of 2023. He did portion of this dumb moves ( Gafford +PJ Washington trade for 1 pick, Avdija trade, 3 years for Jonas, not trading Jones as UFA etc ).

Everything positive about Wizards starts and ends with Bilal Coulibaly.
Sarr is talented and will probably be great defender but his offense is so raw and so poor right now that he will probably need years to reach his potential. For example, he shoots 23% from 3-10 range, that makes rookie Biyombo look like Hakeem/Kareem . For 7 footer he for damn sure does nothing but pretends he is Bamba on offense.

Carrington might be something, so far he plays better than he did at college.

But evaluation of those prospects is next to impossible if they lose by 20 every night. Few hours ago Houston shot 5-27 from 3 and beat them by 15 points ,because they had 24 rebounds more. Leading Wizards rebounder, J. Valanciunas, plays 20 min a game.

And this is where , to me, this non existing structure is problem with team like Wizards. They have no identity, they just have people who go out and lose. You get evaluated based on stats you put against teams that are half -a**ing against you, because you suck so they won't really play that hard, as you will find ways to beat yourself.
Same with Pistons. Every year they suck, every year they are neither good offense nor good defense, they add more picks, they put them into this soup of chaos and even good prospects get lost in shuffle.

All that could be ignored if on court roster makes any sense. Wizards don't. Their offense is just Poole bricking and Kuzma stat padding. And what Dawkins did this year? Oh well, traded bodies for cash and Bagley... Because team where nobody plays any defense really could use another draft bust who can't defend chair.