2024-2025 Regular Season Game 51: Orlando Magic (24-26) at Golden State Warriors (24-24) - 10pm

[89Magicfan]

The bottom line is that they need to overhaul how Paolo and Franz are utilized within the context of the offense. I’ve been saying this for two years now.

Everyone knows Paolo is capable of sharing the load on offense with Franz. They have to put him in better situations to do that.

Defense will be there when Suggs returns.

Even Paolo said this. He mentioned how we could use a PG that makes plays.

I believe he’ll get better. He’s still so young. Him and Franz but this offense is so abysmal. You can’t just keep adding guys who have no offense ability whatsoever and expect growth.

[VFX]

The bottom line is that they need to overhaul how Paolo and Franz are utilized within the context of the offense. I’ve been saying this for two years now.

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

The bottom line is that they need to overhaul how Paolo and Franz are utilized within the context of the offense. I’ve been saying this for two years now.

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

This should be the new PLAN !!!! You and I have been eye to eye for the last 3 years.

[The-Stallion70]

The bottom line is that they need to overhaul how Paolo and Franz are utilized within the context of the offense. I’ve been saying this for two years now.

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

[VFX]

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

It’s going to take time.

I honestly don’t know what the actual **** they have been doing in the last 2 seasons. These things should have been prioritized after Paolo’s rookie season, possibly sooner.

They don’t even need a big name assistant coach or anything. Just someone that knows how to get these guys in better positions to score the basketball. Weltman also has to do his job for once.

Lastly, Paolo and Franz have to step up. It’s true they don’t have the perfect supporting cast. However, if they are going to be the two guys Orlando spends their cap on, then they can’t be ridiculously inefficient. The Magic are only as good as those two guys.

[OrlChamps2030]

Unless they get a home-run trade they should not do anything this week. Just let the team lose out, get lottery pick and go crazy in the summer using our assets and draft capital to make substantial moves.

You really want the guy who drafted Black and Jett in the same draft and then the next season signed KCP as his “big” move to go crazy?

Come on bro..

Also acquired Paolo, Franz, Suggs and other assets. Not exactly sure what’s your point as they are the managers and we dont own the team. Clearly they will make moves but not alot of sense to make moves this week.

My point was..

2023 offseason - we had two lotto picks and walked away with Anthony Black and Jett

2024 offseason - we had tons of cap space and walked away with KCP and resigned Wendell Carter and Isaac to long term deals

And you think the FO can just flip a switch and go crazy this offseason?

Pass me the hopium you’re smoking..

[89Magicfan]

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

I’m no longer listening to the easier said than done excuse. Especially while everyone else has done it or doing it.


Get it done or we need to find someone else who can.

[The-Stallion70]

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

I’m no longer listening to the easier said than done excuse. Especially while everyone else has done it or doing it.


Get it done or we need to find someone else who can.

Sounds like you got a plan, what would you offer?

[rcklsscognition]

Offense was different last night than usual. Only ran that dumb handoff crap a few times but still lacked any sort of plays or vision from Paolo. Too slow all around with most plays not even crossing the 3pt line until there was less than 10 seconds on the shot clock. We hold the ball for so long waiting for something to develop in the paint it’s odd.

WCJ is terrified to shoot or score. AB is a ghost out there. Cole and KCP only guys trying to do anything offensively outside of Franz who clearly looks like our only competent nba player right now.

You gotta practice Paolo getting doubled and figure something out by now to make that an advantage. That they haven’t yet is concerning especially since he’s been back for a while now. I’ll give him a little more patience until after the break because they don’t practice much.

[89Magicfan]

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

I’m no longer listening to the easier said than done excuse. Especially while everyone else has done it or doing it.


Get it done or we need to find someone else who can.

Sounds like you got a plan, what would you offer?

I don’t have the time to sit and play GM. I have my own responsibilities that acquire me to produce just like everyone else. I do know that if I produce stats such as those which show how poor our offense is/has been, I’d be out of a job.

[three3d]

And how exactly do you plan on doing this

You hire on offensive coordinator that actually knows what they’re doing.

You acquire an actual point guard that can run an offense. Someone that has proven they have a real skillset.

You stop trying to reinvent the wheel with position-less roster ideology when you are still in the formative development years of two max players.

You move the players that have been on this roster before the drafted core. You don’t keep forcing a round peg into a square hole hoping it makes sense because it’s the path of least resistance.

Those are simple fixes but it can’t all be done by the trade deadline. This season is over basically because none of this was implemented in the offseason.

I think we are in agreement here, get an offensively talented point guard like Simons. Much easier said than done as im pretty sure the league values this archetype very highly.

I'm not sure what more the coaches can do here though, trying to bring in an offensive genius like Kerr won't work with a group that doesn't have the tools to implement their plan.

I personally don't think its impossible though, Portland might like some of our defensive talent like Black. I think Black's skillset could fit in pretty well with Sharpe and Scoot.

Lord knows we need Simons shooting

No you’re not trying to get Steve Kerr from the Warriors to be an offensive assistant coach to Mosley, you want to get TERRY STOTTS who’s on Kerrs staff and also isn’t under contract next season.

Stotts has A LOT of experience and he coached Dame, CJ, and Simons in Portland. If you were able to get Stotts next season and somehow pull off getting Anfernee Simons I know this offense would have a TOTALLY different look and flow to it next year. Mosley has enough security in his job to not feel threatened by bringing in a coach to f Stotts level and experience. But let’s be honest, if things get worse having a veteran coach like Stotts on the bench is a HUGE bonus. Like players coaches are also assets that can be tradable and Mosley would definitely be a guy people want. Also like players coaches have short comings and have to work on their coaching skills and game.

[thelead]

I hate this team right now. That is all.

[Knightro]

Some of y'all are in for a bit of a rude awakening about what's going to actually change on the court if the Magic trade for one of the purportedly available guards out there - Simons, Sexton or White.

The Magic are going use those guys exactly like they're using Cole because every single one of those guys are basically just Cole with better 3PT shooting.

None of them are coming in and giving the Magic high level playmaking reps at the point guard spot.

[three3d]

Some of y'all are in for a bit of a rude awakening about what's going to actually change on the court if the Magic trade for one of the purportedly available guards out there - Simons, Sexton or White.

The Magic are going use those guys exactly like they're using Cole because every single one of those guys are basically just Cole with better 3PT shooting.

None of them are coming in and giving the Magic high level playmaking reps at the point guard spot.

I think we’re both saying it’s the system and not the player right now and that’s looking very true.

[Skybox]

Some of y'all are in for a bit of a rude awakening about what's going to actually change on the court if the Magic trade for one of the purportedly available guards out there - Simons, Sexton or White.

The Magic are going use those guys exactly like they're using Cole because every single one of those guys are basically just Cole with better 3PT shooting.

None of them are coming in and giving the Magic high level playmaking reps at the point guard spot.

I think we’re both saying it’s the system and not the player right now and that’s looking very true.

The system is nonexistent...but a team still has to have guards that can dribble the basketball and occasionally make a shot. Let's start with versatile AVAILABLE scoring guards (not Kennard's who do one thing) and then try to figure out the dynamic. I think it was Knightro who, sadly, posted the truth about the quality of shots taken by ORL...they're pretty good open shots - our guys just miss.

Simons doesn't equal instant contention, but he'd be a BIG step in the right direction....we can get our feet back under us and better refine our offseason plans. Anything significant, playoff-wise, this year would just be gravy.

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Could’ve challenged that continuation call but Mosley didn’t for some reason.

But yeah, it’s examples like that where the refs are swallowing their whistle on Paolo and taking his FT edge away. That’s why it’s important for Mosley to fight to make them call it properly and using the challenge is one way to draw attention to it.