2024-2025 Regular Season Game 58: Memphis Grizzlies (36-19) at Orlando Magic (28-29) - 7pm

[Skybox]

Need a team that can do what you’re referring to. We don’t have that kind of team.

Right.

But that’s begs the question of whether or not Paolo is a “star” if he needs a very specific set of players around him in order to be successful.

Of course he is. You don’t play 1 on 5. Every star needs a specific type of player(s) around them. Shaq needed shooters, a skilled PG and a defensive minded PF who can also knock down outside shots to spread the floor. So did Dwight.
That’s why Shard at the 4 worked.

Agree...a star is someone worthy of accommodating. Paolo is that.

People listing what Fultz "needs around him to succeed" is not.

[Bensational]

Heard from my cousin that Franz kinda questioned the coaching a little bit in his post game..... Any truth to that? Because that would be surprising to me coming from Franz

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He said he thought coaching could’ve helped them get on the same page for that breakdown on the last play, and that coaching could’ve helped them navigate the runs and offensive stagnation (paraphrasing). He also said he thought the game was lost in the final 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter, so I went back and watched it.

- shot clock violation (because TDS and PB wasted the clock)
- (Defense, Kennard falls out of bounds, refs call it Memphis ball, AB asks for challenge but doesn’t get it - would’ve been called Magic ball)
- AB missed FTs
- AB missed floater
- Franz turnover
- Franz missed 3
- Paolo missed 10’ shot
- Franz makes FTs
- Paolo makes 3

That’s 6 straight possessions without a basket whilst Memphis made 4 3’s in a row and a layup. That’s a 14 point swing. The defense on those 3’s wasn’t that bad either, they were mostly contested or facing close outs, so it was just better offense and made shots.

To me it was mostly Paolo and Franz not hitting their shots and not hitting the open man when they got open. The team missed 10fts, but Paolo missed 16 shots. That’s 16 possessions where Memphis had a chance to build or break a lead and that’s what they did.

This isn’t me hating on Paolo, I’m just pointing to some of the glaring margins which can be improved. KCP hitting more than 1-5 from 3 would help. Mosley not getting T’s would help. Mosley using his coach’s challenge and timeouts appropriately would help.

Mosley was asleep behind the wheel this game for sure.

[basketballRob]

It was a mistake not to call the timeout, but I think the whole team will learn from it.

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[eyriq]

have you ever admitted being wrong about something?

What do I need to admit I was wrong about?

you know, the basics, that this is well constructed team with historically good young core (although you are willing to cut 1/3 of it)

I'm all in on Paolo and Franz.

Edit: meant Franz not Suggs

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Heard from my cousin that Franz kinda questioned the coaching a little bit in his post game..... Any truth to that? Because that would be surprising to me coming from Franz

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Watch on YouTube

Starts at: 10:12 and continues into the next question, calling out players and coaches. He covers it up saying t's not easy to do with 20,000 people in there.

[SOUL]

Franz was basically calling out everyone, which when you lose like that, it is everyone - INCLUDING Franz who had a horrid turnover and pump faked an open three late. But Mose knew he didn't coach that game well and Paolo was horrible, and our team missed a bunch of FTs.

[KillMonger]

The jumpshot is imperative for Paolo and Franz to leap into the players they could be....paolo you can't take that many when you're not hitting but you did go to the line 13 times... Bottom line he needs to be better..... Franz you can't be airballing bro, you got to lock in consistent mechanics.... You can't have a hitch one game and then it's gone the next.... They both have to improve that for their own sakes and ours because we go as far as they take us

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[ogmagicfan]

Franz was basically calling out everyone, which when you lose like that, it is everyone - INCLUDING Franz who had a horrid turnover and pump faked an open three late. But Mose knew he didn't coach that game well and Paolo was horrible, and our team missed a bunch of FTs.

Franz made the 3 prior with the unecessary pump fake and thought he could do it twice but the closing defender adjusted and was able to still contest it

I hate the habit of our players to turn down an open 3 pt shot by pump faking, Suggs does it nearly every game

[ogmagicfan]

The jumpshot is imperative for Paolo and Franz to leap into the players they could be....paolo you can't take that many when you're not hitting but you did go to the line 13 times... Bottom line he needs to be better..... Franz you can't be airballing bro, you got to lock in consistent mechanics.... You can't have a hitch one game and then it's gone the next.... They both have to improve that for their own sakes and ours because we go as far as they take us

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Agreed. We can make all the changes in the world for our team but if Paolo & Franz continue to teeter around 30% from 3 we wont ever win anything

I do however think getting guards to pick up ball handling and playmaking duties will allow both of them to focus more of their offseason work on jump shooting opposed to a wide bucket of skills needed since theyre our "do it all" players

We need to simplify the games for both of them, and that comes with acquiring more talent

Now if we get a legit PG and theyre still persisting with the same problems 3 seasons from now, then I'll entertain the convo of having to trade 1 of them

[KillMonger]

The jumpshot is imperative for Paolo and Franz to leap into the players they could be....paolo you can't take that many when you're not hitting but you did go to the line 13 times... Bottom line he needs to be better..... Franz you can't be airballing bro, you got to lock in consistent mechanics.... You can't have a hitch one game and then it's gone the next.... They both have to improve that for their own sakes and ours because we go as far as they take us

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Agreed. We can make all the changes in the world for our team but if Paolo & Franz continue to teeter around 30% from 3 we wont ever win anything

I do however think getting guards to pick up ball handling and playmaking duties will allow both of them to focus more of their offseason work on jump shooting opposed to a wide bucket of skills needed since theyre our "do it all" players

We need to simplify the games for both of them, and that comes with acquiring more talent

Now if we get a legit PG and theyre still persisting with the same problems 3 seasons from now, then I'll entertain the convo of having to trade 1 of them

For sure, nothing made that fact clear as day last game when AB was having issues with the pressure and then Cole started having some handling issues as well so we had to go back to Paolo and Franz playing PG......but this is something even Paolo himself recognized by asking for a PG to be brought in.... Though it sucks watching weltman do nothing citing injuries as the main reason

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[ORLMagicGirl15]

I just realized that Paolo was 5-21 in attempts but went to the line 13 times (2 of which were tech shots and 1 and-1). Meaning this kid attempted 27 shots and made 5 of them. Absolutely not sir. He has got to become more efficient and/or become a more willing passer. I really hope the team spread the ball more against the Wizards today.

[three3d]

I just realized that Paolo was 5-21 in attempts but went to the line 13 times (2 of which were tech shots and 1 and-1). Meaning this kid attempted 27 shots and made 5 of them. Absolutely not sir. He has got to become more efficient and/or become a more willing passer. I really hope the team spread the ball more against the Wizards today.

And this is why his high usage rate + below average percentage’s are hurting the team. In all seriousness, look at Goga’s Game Log this season and see how he was playing till January 10th when Paolo came back.

Goga hardly got any touches on the offensive end with Paolo and ultimately it’s cost him the starting job. Perhaps it’s coincidental but when Goga was out with the concussion that happened right after Paolo came back. Goga never had any head contact in the game, we seen Goga leaving the court VERY angry and ripping his jersey.

[SloNick Russia]

Its hard to swallow but our superstar 6-10, 250 pounds PF has been shooting 40% for two month already, which is a terrible number even for a guard. We basicly have a Jordan Poole at his worst as our main weapon. Good luck building a contender around it.
An the worst part is that scoring is all Paolo does, he can/t get to form playing defense, rebounding or supporting offense.
We may cry about lack of playmaking, shootigm spacing, whatever, nothing will cure this team until Paolo cures himself.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I just realized that Paolo was 5-21 in attempts but went to the line 13 times (2 of which were tech shots and 1 and-1). Meaning this kid attempted 27 shots and made 5 of them. Absolutely not sir. He has got to become more efficient and/or become a more willing passer. I really hope the team spread the ball more against the Wizards today.

And this is why his high usage rate + below average percentage’s are hurting the team. In all seriousness, look at Goga’s Game Log this season and see how he was playing till January 10th when Paolo came back.

Goga hardly got any touches on the offensive end with Paolo and ultimately it’s cost him the starting job. Perhaps it’s coincidental but when Goga was out with the concussion that happened right after Paolo came back. Goga never had any head contact in the game, we seen Goga leaving the court VERY angry and ripping his jersey.

Yeah, not jumping to that conclusion with Goga.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Its hard to swallow but our superstar 6-10, 250 pounds PF has been shooting 40% for two month already, which is a terrible number even for a guard. We basicly have a Jordan Poole at his worst as our main weapon. Good luck building a contender around it.
An the worst part is that scoring is all Paolo does, he can/t get to form playing defense, rebounding or supporting offense.
We may cry about lack of playmaking, shootigm spacing, whatever, nothing will cure this team until Paolo cures himself.

Scoring is not all he does. He draws contact, get the other team in foul trouble, and play-make for others. He rebounds when he wants to. I always know when he’s going to have a big game because he normally has double digit rebounds and good assist numbers.