Summer Decisions

[pepe1991]

Paolo is likely what he's been over the last 10 games. 28/6/4 with 60% TS. The time off hurt his numbers for a while. I'm hoping he can become a thick Tatum.

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3-7 win record
108 offensive rating
-3,8 net rating
33% usage

5 out of 10 of those games are against non-playoff teams

He spent last whole year healthy and it all couldn't scale up over 54,6% TS.
This year his efficiency is even worst, 54%.

It's just what he is, player who takes low probability shots and fishes for cheap fouls to get to FT line, often overselling and flopping.
On defense his effort is so poor.

Basically he is Trae Young of PFs.

This injury excuse is getting hilarious. He returned 3 months ago. Franz returned from same injury later, and got better at near everything.

[pepe1991]

Jayson Tatum as catch & shoot option through years:
2024-25 - 40%
2023-24 -43%
2022-23 - 40,5%
2021-22- 38%
2020-21- 44,6%
2019-20 - 40%

Paolo Banchero
2024-25- 27,4%
2023-24 -36,4%
2021-22 - 33,3%

Those two players don't even belong in same sport when it comes to being off ball treat. Celtics can easly play live- ball offense because their biggest star is leathal outside shooter off catch. Guy at age of 20 was one of best spot up shooters in nba that year.
He is still near automatic 3 point shooter once he gets clean look.

On other hand...Paolo....

i don't think people understand what of a uphill battle to have good team around Paolo actually is. You need PG who can get him to play pick&roll as rolling option, your PG also has to be very comfortable off ball player and near automatic catch& shoot option.
During all that, you also hope Franz becomes better 3 point shooter himself, and you still need Paolo to improve as 3 point option.
But you also need center who can protect rim AND shoot 3s and all that for good price.

Because Paolo is such a bad pick&roll defender, you also need to keep player like Suggs on roster all the time and Suggs/Franz can never be off court at once.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it will be very, very, very hard. Even if i could just name drop two normal -price players and send them to Magic to be sure whole thing will work, i have no clue who it would be? Younger Brook Lopez with 3 point shot and ...Haliburton from Kings days?

I still keep Nembhard and Turner on top of people i would call to ask trading price (assuming Paolo is going nowhere).

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Jayson Tatum as catch & shoot option through years:
2024-25 - 40%
2023-24 -43%
2022-23 - 40,5%
2021-22- 38%
2020-21- 44,6%
2019-20 - 40%

Paolo Banchero
2024-25- 27,4%
2023-24 -36,4%
2021-22 - 33,3%

Those two players don't even belong in same sport when it comes to being off ball treat. Celtics can easly play live- ball offense because their biggest star is leathal outside shooter off catch. Guy at age of 20 was one of best spot up shooters in nba that year.
He is still near automatic 3 point shooter once he gets clean look.

On other hand...Paolo....

i don't think people understand what of a uphill battle to have good team around Paolo actually is. You need PG who can get him to play pick&roll as rolling option, your PG also has to be very comfortable off ball player and near automatic catch& shoot option.
During all that, you also hope Franz becomes better 3 point shooter himself, and you still need Paolo to improve as 3 point option.
But you also need center who can protect rim AND shoot 3s and all that for good price.

Because Paolo is such a bad pick&roll defender, you also need to keep player like Suggs on roster all the time and Suggs/Franz can never be off court at once.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it will be very, very, very hard. Even if i could just name drop two normal -price players and send them to Magic to be sure whole thing will work, i have no clue who it would be? Younger Brook Lopez with 3 point shot and ...Haliburton from Kings days?

I still keep Nembhard and Turner on top of people i would call to ask trading price (assuming Paolo is going nowhere).

yet this FO continues to surround Paolo with the exact opposite, hell even Paolo knows his weaknesses and asked for a table setter who can run PnR.

[basketballRob]

Jayson Tatum as catch & shoot option through years:
2024-25 - 40%
2023-24 -43%
2022-23 - 40,5%
2021-22- 38%
2020-21- 44,6%
2019-20 - 40%

Paolo Banchero
2024-25- 27,4%
2023-24 -36,4%
2021-22 - 33,3%

Those two players don't even belong in same sport when it comes to being off ball treat. Celtics can easly play live- ball offense because their biggest star is leathal outside shooter off catch. Guy at age of 20 was one of best spot up shooters in nba that year.
He is still near automatic 3 point shooter once he gets clean look.

On other hand...Paolo....

i don't think people understand what of a uphill battle to have good team around Paolo actually is. You need PG who can get him to play pick&roll as rolling option, your PG also has to be very comfortable off ball player and near automatic catch& shoot option.
During all that, you also hope Franz becomes better 3 point shooter himself, and you still need Paolo to improve as 3 point option.
But you also need center who can protect rim AND shoot 3s and all that for good price.

Because Paolo is such a bad pick&roll defender, you also need to keep player like Suggs on roster all the time and Suggs/Franz can never be off court at once.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it will be very, very, very hard. Even if i could just name drop two normal -price players and send them to Magic to be sure whole thing will work, i have no clue who it would be? Younger Brook Lopez with 3 point shot and ...Haliburton from Kings days?

I still keep Nembhard and Turner on top of people i would call to ask trading price (assuming Paolo is going nowhere).

Sadly, Paolo is a better outside shooter than Franz.

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[dsg2021]

My question is if people think Paolo is what he is already..

No more significant improvement over the next 5 years.

His #4 league leading FTA this year is a facade as posters here say, it's cheap foul hunting and worthless to them.
Same with the clutch mid-range game we saw in the Playoffs.

Then we need to blow the entire team up and keep only Franz maybe. Paolo gone. Suggs also gone for being too injured.

I haven't looked into it enough yet, but for example, maybe Nembhard and Turner would actually be perfect fits and from a one team trade only. But why do it?

I'm just confused. The advanced stats say we don't have any superstar outside of maybe Franz. So why are the negative nancies putting bandaids on the team? No long-term salary should be added. No win-now moves should be done. No picks should be traded away. The team should be blown up.



FYI for people, I don't think this personally at all, but I am always looking at every side. Maybe there really is some sneaky good return like unprotected 1sts or hidden youngster about to be a star that we could get out of Paolo and Suggs. Who knows.

[CLosP]

Honestly Jay Huff would’ve been a nice addition and we could’ve traded Carter for something & used Jay as the third center. Malik Beasley was a cheap find. The Magic really wasted cap space by giving Joe Ingles the money they did & resigning Gary Harris. KCP has done nothing. The Magic are literally one of the few teams in the league that don’t have a scoring threat off the bench.

Seriously, get on the phone with Memphis and try to get a Kennard/Huff deal. Phoenix is about to implode try & pry Allen or Jones possibly. The front office will most likely not make a major move so they’re going to have to maneuver over the mediocrity they’ve assembled.

On Paolo, I think if you give him better talent around him, he’s not going to force the issue as much. You wanna surround him with guards like Fultz in the past & Black, Harris & KCP who are absolutely no threat offensively, someone has to put up the shots.