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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#941 » by dsg2021 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:57 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about moving Goga with how often Wendell is hurt and the fact that Mo is best suited coming off the bench and also coming off of major injury. I thought about this during the draft when they passed on a big, it just seems like potentially having to had rely on a 2nd round big or in this case a vet min big would not feel that great. Also there is the fact that Goga was really good for us last year, especially before he got hurt.

I just wonder if they are willing to spend in free agency if they can wait for the bargains near the end and get similar quality guard/wing play as they could trading Goga.

Of course it depends on what is truly available for Goga. Also the fact that if Mosley doesn't plan to play him they could do right by him by trading him somewhere he will get a chance. I definitely see both sides of it, I'm not sure what the right move is.


If we wanted to make the Center spot a really cheap position on the roster, maybe play some tricks with avoiding/resetting the Repeater Tax for longer, I do like this idea (trading WCJ into a lot of space). Like starting Goga, Mo backing up. Penda experiments there. We go Minimums and future draft picks in the spot too. Goga was really good in the regular season, and I think he would have been good in the Playoffs but Mosely gave him zero leash there. I really think Mo has potential to be a closing Small 5 in the Playoffs too. Like here is 28-30 MPG.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#942 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:29 am

tiderulz wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Simple trade

Magic trades: Isaac, 2nd Rounder

Kings trade: Monk

why does Sacramento do that?


The same reason why theyve become the Sacramento Bulls. They have no idea what theyre doing.

Also, they need some defense so they might be willing to do the trade off, and Isaac's money isnt fully guarenteed
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#943 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:30 am

Zach Lowe on his free agency preview pod that just dropped this about Ty Jerome...

"Orlando. That was the much rumored Ty Jerome destination all year. Money got a lot tighter for them in the wake of the Desmond Bane trade."



Stands to reason if the Magic potentially had Jerome in their sights for a while that they could still make that happen if they *really* wanted to.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#944 » by Idiosyncratic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:31 am

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Idiosyncratic wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about moving Goga with how often Wendell is hurt and the fact that Mo is best suited coming off the bench and also coming off of major injury. I thought about this during the draft when they passed on a big, it just seems like potentially having to had rely on a 2nd round big or in this case a vet min big would not feel that great. Also there is the fact that Goga was really good for us last year, especially before he got hurt.

I just wonder if they are willing to spend in free agency if they can wait for the bargains near the end and get similar quality guard/wing play as they could trading Goga.

Of course it depends on what is truly available for Goga. Also the fact that if Mosley doesn't plan to play him they could do right by him by trading him somewhere he will get a chance. I definitely see both sides of it, I'm not sure what the right move is.


If we wanted to make the Center spot a really cheap position on the roster, maybe play some tricks with avoiding/resetting the Repeater Tax for longer, I do like this idea (trading WCJ into a lot of space). Like starting Goga, Mo backing up. Penda experiments there. We go Minimums and future draft picks in the spot too. Goga was really good in the regular season, and I think he would have been good in the Playoffs but Mosely gave him zero leash there. I really think Mo has potential to be a closing Small 5 in the Playoffs too. Like here is 28-30 MPG.


The dream to me is upgrading from Wendell, but I just am not sure I see that guy out there this year and I don't think they will go with Goga over him after not playing him in the playoffs. I just think they value Wendell's switchability a lot, they are going to hope he can bounce back on hitting wide open 3s. I think I am inclined to just keep the center rotation how it is and reevaluate at the deadline. A lot is really going to depend on what they are willing to spend in free agency to me. If they can bring in even a TPMLE guy and a min guy I think they can be fine at the other positions. MLE obviously would be even better, but that would make the cap sheet really interesting next year if it is a longer than one year deal. If they aren't willing to spend then I do think you probably need to move a big for wing or guard help.

Agree that they need to be testing small ball out, I want to see a ton of different lineup combos throughout the season. And also there may be matchups where Wendell and Goga can play together. The finals were more small, but we were seeing some double big lineups the rounds before that.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#945 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:36 am

Knightro wrote:Zach Lowe on his free agency preview pod that just dropped this about Ty Jerome...

"Orlando. That was the much rumored Ty Jerome destination all year. Money got a lot tighter for them in the wake of the Desmond Bane trade."



Stands to reason if the Magic potentially had Jerome in their sights for a while that they could still make that happen if they *really* wanted to.



Give me Ty over Tyus. Ty’s defense is better.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#946 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:42 am

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Knightro wrote:Zach Lowe on his free agency preview pod that just dropped this about Ty Jerome...

"Orlando. That was the much rumored Ty Jerome destination all year. Money got a lot tighter for them in the wake of the Desmond Bane trade."



Stands to reason if the Magic potentially had Jerome in their sights for a while that they could still make that happen if they *really* wanted to.



Give me Ty over Tyus. Ty’s defense is better.


Jerome is a better player than Jones, but it's not quite that simple.

Jones would only cost around $5-6M and wouldn't require the Magic get rid of anybody else.

Jerome would cost more than double that and would assuredly mean one of Moe, JI or Goga would be traded away for $$$ purposes (or declined in Moe's case). I don't think trading away just Jett would provide enough savings to be able to retain all three of those guys.
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Post#947 » by Darth Magic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:48 am

Knightro wrote:Zach Lowe on his free agency preview pod that just dropped this about Ty Jerome...

"Orlando. That was the much rumored Ty Jerome destination all year. Money got a lot tighter for them in the wake of the Desmond Bane trade."



Stands to reason if the Magic potentially had Jerome in their sights for a while that they could still make that happen if they *really* wanted to.



I think he'd be great off the bench
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#948 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:49 am

Knightro wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Knightro wrote:Zach Lowe on his free agency preview pod that just dropped this about Ty Jerome...

"Orlando. That was the much rumored Ty Jerome destination all year. Money got a lot tighter for them in the wake of the Desmond Bane trade."



Stands to reason if the Magic potentially had Jerome in their sights for a while that they could still make that happen if they *really* wanted to.



Give me Ty over Tyus. Ty’s defense is better.


Jerome is a better player than Jones, but it's not quite that simple.

Jones would only cost around $5-6M and wouldn't require the Magic get rid of anybody else.

Jerome would cost more than double that and would assuredly mean one of Moe, JI or Goga would be traded away for $$$ purposes (or declined in Moe's case). I don't think trading away just Jett would provide enough savings to be able to retain all three of those guys.


We are going to have to get creative. I believe we used the 2nd round exception on Penda which allows us to spend 2 million more?
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Post#949 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:50 am

Hoopshype says the Magic tried to acquire NAW at the deadline. It may have been an old report.

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Post#950 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:18 am

If the Magic decline the options on Moe and Caleb, they will be in a position to use the full $14.1M mid level exception.

But there would be no room left to bring back Moe or Caleb unless the Magic punted Jett into someone’s cap space or traded Isaac or Goga for someone else making much less money than those two currently make.
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Post#951 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:31 am

I have to believe the Magic will be declining both options though.

Because even if they completely whiff on all of their free agency targets, they could simply circle back to Moe and Caleb and offer them new deals.
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Post#952 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:39 am

Knightro wrote:I have to believe the Magic will be declining both options though.

Because even if they completely whiff on all of their free agency targets, they could simply circle back to Moe and Caleb and offer them new deals.


Caleb is like 2 million. Don’t we need to fill a roster spot? Nothing will be less than that.
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Post#953 » by cedric76 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:11 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about moving Goga with how often Wendell is hurt and the fact that Mo is best suited coming off the bench and also coming off of major injury. I thought about this during the draft when they passed on a big, it just seems like potentially having to had rely on a 2nd round big or in this case a vet min big would not feel that great. Also there is the fact that Goga was really good for us last year, especially before he got hurt.

I just wonder if they are willing to spend in free agency if they can wait for the bargains near the end and get similar quality guard/wing play as they could trading Goga.

Of course it depends on what is truly available for Goga. Also the fact that if Mosley doesn't plan to play him they could do right by him by trading him somewhere he will get a chance. I definitely see both sides of it, I'm not sure what the right move is.


If we wanted to make the Center spot a really cheap position on the roster, maybe play some tricks with avoiding/resetting the Repeater Tax for longer, I do like this idea (trading WCJ into a lot of space). Like starting Goga, Mo backing up. Penda experiments there. We go Minimums and future draft picks in the spot too. Goga was really good in the regular season, and I think he would have been good in the Playoffs but Mosely gave him zero leash there. I really think Mo has potential to be a closing Small 5 in the Playoffs too. Like here is 28-30 MPG.


The dream to me is upgrading from Wendell, but I just am not sure I see that guy out there this year and I don't think they will go with Goga over him after not playing him in the playoffs. I just think they value Wendell's switchability a lot, they are going to hope he can bounce back on hitting wide open 3s. I think I am inclined to just keep the center rotation how it is and reevaluate at the deadline. A lot is really going to depend on what they are willing to spend in free agency to me. If they can bring in even a TPMLE guy and a min guy I think they can be fine at the other positions. MLE obviously would be even better, but that would make the cap sheet really interesting next year if it is a longer than one year deal. If they aren't willing to spend then I do think you probably need to move a big for wing or guard help.

Agree that they need to be testing small ball out, I want to see a ton of different lineup combos throughout the season. And also there may be matchups where Wendell and Goga can play together. The finals were more small, but we were seeing some double big lineups the rounds before that.


I expect WCJ to have a great season and people will quickly stop to include him in trades
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#954 » by cedric76 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:47 am

Another move that I could see is:
Renounce Caleb + Moe
Trade goga+Jett for cap space (involving Brooklyn)
This would put us around 25 M under the 1st apron
Offer Full MLe to NAW
Offer min Vet to Lopez
Resign Moe to a 7 M ish contract

That put us just below the 1st apron


Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, NAW
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, panda
Wcj, Lopez, Moe

I dont think it will happen but it could be done
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#955 » by GelbeWand09 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:58 am

NWA :lol: Thats a lotta roster spots & i have concerns about Ice Cube and MC Ren's Isaiah Thomas-like height without his athletism. Age could be a factor too.
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Post#956 » by jezzerinho » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:33 am

Colby Jones got released in the Dillon Jones trade. Could be a decent 2-way pickup if he's injury free.
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Post#957 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:39 am

RichCollab wrote:
Knightro wrote:I have to believe the Magic will be declining both options though.

Because even if they completely whiff on all of their free agency targets, they could simply circle back to Moe and Caleb and offer them new deals.


Caleb is like 2 million. Don’t we need to fill a roster spot? Nothing will be less than that.

Correct. Its the same type of contract we need to fill out the roster.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#958 » by zaymon » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:50 am

cedric76 wrote:Another move that I could see is:

Trade goga+Jett for cap space (involving Brooklyn)

and end up with NWA + brook lopez

Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, NAW
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, panda
Wcj, Lopez, Moe


Thats something i have been thinking of during my morning walking the dog :P Propably one of the more intriguing options.
For some reason i think Moe will be gone instead of Goga and Houstan instead of Jett. Weltman was not enthusiastic about retaining them.
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Post#959 » by drsd » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:15 am

cedric76 wrote:Another move that I could see is:
Renounce Caleb + Moe
Trade goga+Jett for cap space (involving Brooklyn)
This would put us around 25 M under the 1st apron
Offer Full MLe to NAW
Offer min Vet to Lopez
Resign Moe to a 7 M ish contract

That put us just below the 1st apron


Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, NAW
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, panda
Wcj, Lopez, Moe

I dont think it will happen but it could be done



Ty he problem here; and as mentioned above with Houstan, the Magic Must have a14 man roster and no vet will be cheaper.

The Magic kind of need to keep Housran simply for cost reasons.
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Post#960 » by cedric76 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:59 am

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Another move that I could see is:
Renounce Caleb + Moe
Trade goga+Jett for cap space (involving Brooklyn)
This would put us around 25 M under the 1st apron
Offer Full MLe to NAW
Offer min Vet to Lopez
Resign Moe to a 7 M ish contract

That put us just below the 1st apron


Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, NAW
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, panda
Wcj, Lopez, Moe

I dont think it will happen but it could be done



Ty he problem here; and as mentioned above with Houstan, the Magic Must have a14 man roster and no vet will be cheaper.

The Magic kind of need to keep Housran simply for cost reasons.


Yeah, we have to use 2 way players to fill up roster
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe

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