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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#241 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:57 pm

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Weren't 24# and 25# picks both traded ?


24 was traded along with Richaun Holmes' contract into Dallas' TPE so Sacramento could free up cap space.

25 was traded for 31 and two future 2nds. Then traded again along with a 2024 1st as part of the package to land Porzingis in Boston.


Not sure what's the point you try to make. Guy makes millions to run a team, it's on him to come up with trade, not us on forum. I'm very confident that team like Nets were ready to jump a gun to get lottery pick, especially given context of where they were at that point of rebuild.

Just for argument sake , in that moment, Mikal Bridges costed only like $18M a year and Nets had 21 & 22 pick.

In theory, Magic could have sent 6#, 11# and i don't know, 2025 pick ( own, Nuggets ) for Mikal.


Jazz had 16 and 28 pick. Once again, low hanging fruit of a trade to get.


For all intention and purposes, they could also try to draft up. Scoot and Amen were right there.


All that still doesn't change fact that he drafted guy that has no business going anywhere near lottery.


Throwing out hindsight trades isn’t real critique. Deals like “just go get Mikal” or “trade up” ignore how actual negotiations work. Other teams have to agree and timing matters. You can question the pick, but acting like better options were just sitting there is lazy analysis.
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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#242 » by Knightro » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:03 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Not sure what's the point you try to make. Guy makes millions to run a team, it's on him to come up with trade, not us on forum. I'm very confident that team like Nets were ready to jump a gun to get lottery pick, especially given context of where they were at that point of rebuild.

Just for argument sake , in that moment, Mikal Bridges costed only like $18M a year and Nets had 21 & 22 pick.

In theory, Magic could have sent 6#, 11# and i don't know, 2025 pick ( own, Nuggets ) for Mikal.

Jazz had 16 and 28 pick. Once again, low hanging fruit of a trade to get.

For all intention and purposes, they could also try to draft up. Scoot and Amen were right there.

All that still doesn't change fact that he drafted guy that has no business going anywhere near lottery.


The point is you can't just squat down and poop out a trade if there isn't one to be had.

The Magic were picking 11th. The next 12 picks after 11th were not traded.

What were the Magic supposed to do? Call every team and say "please take our 11th pick because we hate all the prospects" or what?

It's just not a realistic way of looking at it.
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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#243 » by basketballRob » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:51 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:Not sure what's the point you try to make. Guy makes millions to run a team, it's on him to come up with trade, not us on forum. I'm very confident that team like Nets were ready to jump a gun to get lottery pick, especially given context of where they were at that point of rebuild.

Just for argument sake , in that moment, Mikal Bridges costed only like $18M a year and Nets had 21 & 22 pick.

In theory, Magic could have sent 6#, 11# and i don't know, 2025 pick ( own, Nuggets ) for Mikal.

Jazz had 16 and 28 pick. Once again, low hanging fruit of a trade to get.

For all intention and purposes, they could also try to draft up. Scoot and Amen were right there.

All that still doesn't change fact that he drafted guy that has no business going anywhere near lottery.


The point is you can't just squat down and poop out a trade if there isn't one to be had.

The Magic were picking 11th. The next 12 picks after 11th were not traded.

What were the Magic supposed to do? Call every team and say "please take our 11th pick because we hate all the prospects" or what?

It's just not a realistic way of looking at it.
Lively was the obvious pick there.

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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#244 » by pepe1991 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:44 pm

Knightro wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Not sure what's the point you try to make. Guy makes millions to run a team, it's on him to come up with trade, not us on forum. I'm very confident that team like Nets were ready to jump a gun to get lottery pick, especially given context of where they were at that point of rebuild.

Just for argument sake , in that moment, Mikal Bridges costed only like $18M a year and Nets had 21 & 22 pick.

In theory, Magic could have sent 6#, 11# and i don't know, 2025 pick ( own, Nuggets ) for Mikal.

Jazz had 16 and 28 pick. Once again, low hanging fruit of a trade to get.

For all intention and purposes, they could also try to draft up. Scoot and Amen were right there.

All that still doesn't change fact that he drafted guy that has no business going anywhere near lottery.


The point is you can't just squat down and poop out a trade if there isn't one to be had.

The Magic were picking 11th. The next 12 picks after 11th were not traded.

What were the Magic supposed to do? Call every team and say "please take our 11th pick because we hate all the prospects" or what?

It's just not a realistic way of looking at it.


10 and 12 were traded for each other :lol:
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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#247 » by SloNick Russia » Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:42 pm

Lively has played in 91 out of 162 possible games so far, doesn't look much like a steal of the draft. Will probably ask for 20M per season next summer

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Post#249 » by RookieStar » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:14 am

basketballRob wrote:https://100guaranteed.substack.com/p/noah-penda-and-the-value-of-feel

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Talk about ground bound... he only has a 25inch vert???
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Re: #32: Welcome to Orlando, Noah Penda! 

Post#250 » by basketballRob » Thu Jul 24, 2025 2:57 pm

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basketballRob wrote:https://100guaranteed.substack.com/p/noah-penda-and-the-value-of-feel

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Talk about ground bound... he only has a 25inch vert???
25 standing and 31 max. The same exact as George Niang and Risacher. Middleton and Ingles both have a 31 max.

Orlando Robinson has a 23" standing vert. Nikola had a 23.5" standing vert and a 25" Max vert.

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