Official 2025 Offseason Thread 2.0

[TheChaser]

I feel like the early season rotation is going to be 10-deep.

Suggs/Bane/Franz/Paolo/Carter start

Tyus/Black/TDS/Isaac/Goga as the backups

And then the green goblins are Jase/Jett/Penda/Moritz (until he's healthy) - and then the two-way guys.

But I'd suspect at least one of Bane/Franz/Paolo will be on the floor at all times as they set up their rotations.

Can't wait for the season to start. That's potentially a very competitive team.... Top to bottom!

I mean if they stay reasonably healthy, it certainly feels like they could be really good.

Oh my lawwwddd, it’s getting close to training camp boys!!!

[Skybox]

While we watch the (hopeful) offensive overhaul and the developmental influence of the new coaches on our guards - there are looming decisions that may or may not become very significant. We all love AB to some extent (whether as a versatile defender with limited upside or PGOTF or somewhere in between) but he's up for a new deal that, maybe, ORL can't afford to pay - depending on how much he develops. Tyus is likely a one year helper to have that true PG available when things bog down, but he's making only $7m and he's only 29...IF AB really shows he's a PG worthy of a meaningful extension, something probably has to give...(Tyus gone, even Suggs gone?). The NBA CBA just doesn't allow hoarding of talent if everyone gets paid what they're worth. Good problem to have but not as simple, imo, as "just pay everyone and keep everyone"

[Skybox]

While we watch the (hopeful) offensive overhaul and the developmental influence of the new coaches on our guards - there are looming decisions that may or may not become very significant. We all love AB to some extent (whether as a versatile defender with limited upside or PGOTF or somewhere in between) but he's up for a new deal that, maybe, ORL can't afford to pay - depending on how much he develops. Tyus is likely a one year helper to have that true PG available when things bog down, but he's making only $7m and he's only 29...IF AB really shows he's a PG worthy of a meaningful extension, something probably has to give...(Tyus gone, even Suggs gone?). The NBA CBA just doesn't allow hoarding of talent if everyone gets paid what they're worth. Good problem to have but not as simple, imo, as "just pay everyone and keep everyone"

I just wonder what the salary range might be for AB (of course, depending on what he becomes this season - which is a very wide range of possibilities).

also, Moe will need some kind of "make good" deal...he is much more valuable than his one year $5m deal (when he's healthy). WCJ's escalation kicks in too. Goga has one more year (after this one) at $7.6m, I really think TdS will emerge as a significant rotation player with a couple of rookie deal years left. Howard is a non-issue. I believe Richardson and possibly even Penda will be good enough, mature enough to at least give the FO confidence to consider moving off higher-priced vets at the TD or next summer. Penda, imo, is a direct threat to Isaac's future in ORL - but I also understand that a sweet-shooting Isaac could suddenly look like an amazing bargain at less than $15m per...his defensive impact is playoff-significant for sure.

Let's say AB earns big bucks and a big role going forward, if we find that some of our significant talents like Suggs, WCJ, Goga, Isaac, etc...what would we even trade for? I assume it'd be picks or rookie-contract prospects with a mix of expiring deals or waivable guys.

Again, all good problems to consider, but money is now a REAL thing.

[yoyojw17]

DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!! !!! lol

Great video!

Mike Miller's comments "6'-10"... 6'-11" ... 270 lb" moving like a guard did make me go ... for a sec. Hahah. But reliving what he looked like on rookie night.... Sounds bout right

Great watch.

https://youtu.be/yAQAJ1WmDys?si=-RTUNeXaW_Auj-6n

[tiderulz]

:o DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!! !!! lol

Great video!

Mike Miller's comments "6'-10"... 6'-11" ... 270 lb" moving like a guard did make me go ... for a sec. Hahah. But reliving what he looked like on rookie night.... Sounds bout right

Great watch.

https://youtu.be/yAQAJ1WmDys?si=-RTUNeXaW_Auj-6n

I see a lot of distance shooting, hoping he is working on his low post game too. just feels like he doesnt use it enough

[yoyojw17]

:o DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!! !!! lol

Great video!

Mike Miller's comments "6'-10"... 6'-11" ... 270 lb" moving like a guard did make me go ... for a sec. Hahah. But reliving what he looked like on rookie night.... Sounds bout right

Great watch.

https://youtu.be/yAQAJ1WmDys?si=-RTUNeXaW_Auj-6n

I see a lot of distance shooting, hoping he is working on his low post game too. just feels like he doesnt use it enough

100% being able to switch from one to another depending on the switch would take his game to another level. if Trae Young is switched onto you.... Your eyes should widen with excitement!! Pass out and reset in the post.... For the point or the triple team draw and pass.

[JoshuaPotter]

While we watch the (hopeful) offensive overhaul and the developmental influence of the new coaches on our guards - there are looming decisions that may or may not become very significant. We all love AB to some extent (whether as a versatile defender with limited upside or PGOTF or somewhere in between) but he's up for a new deal that, maybe, ORL can't afford to pay - depending on how much he develops. Tyus is likely a one year helper to have that true PG available when things bog down, but he's making only $7m and he's only 29...IF AB really shows he's a PG worthy of a meaningful extension, something probably has to give...(Tyus gone, even Suggs gone?). The NBA CBA just doesn't allow hoarding of talent if everyone gets paid what they're worth. Good problem to have but not as simple, imo, as "just pay everyone and keep everyone"

I just wonder what the salary range might be for AB (of course, depending on what he becomes this season - which is a very wide range of possibilities).

also, Moe will need some kind of "make good" deal...he is much more valuable than his one year $5m deal (when he's healthy). WCJ's escalation kicks in too. Goga has one more year (after this one) at $7.6m, I really think TdS will emerge as a significant rotation player with a couple of rookie deal years left. Howard is a non-issue. I believe Richardson and possibly even Penda will be good enough, mature enough to at least give the FO confidence to consider moving off higher-priced vets at the TD or next summer. Penda, imo, is a direct threat to Isaac's future in ORL - but I also understand that a sweet-shooting Isaac could suddenly look like an amazing bargain at less than $15m per...his defensive impact is playoff-significant for sure.

Let's say AB earns big bucks and a big role going forward, if we find that some of our significant talents like Suggs, WCJ, Goga, Isaac, etc...what would we even trade for? I assume it'd be picks or rookie-contract prospects with a mix of expiring deals or waivable guys.

Again, all good problems to consider, but money is now a REAL thing.

I have been wondering if the salary ceiling and aprons will bring down the middle level of values.

[thelead]

Schroder was terrible in the first half but came through at the end. Bonga played like a star role player. Franz was great in the first half and meh in the second.

Sengun was a killer until late in the game. Still would like to point out that Houston got him to take less than a max…

He is not a max player or a go to player. It’s like people didn’t watch Houston in the playoffs last year. There is a reason that Houston got Durant. Although I do believe that Amen might be a stud just not now.

You could say the same about Franz and replace Durant’s name with Paolo if you take your magic-fan glasses off.

Franz’ shot is killing his potential… Franz with a shot is better than Sengun. Franz without a shot is pretty similar to Sengun… who is not a max player.

He needs to be able to replicate what he did in Paolo’s absence to be worth the max contract… and he has struggled with that consistently due to that shot.

I can only image the hate this post will bring

God forbid I expect a max player to perform like superstar.

And for the record, I’m also dubious of Paolo’s max contract with his efficiency issues too… but we’ll see how this all works out. Paolo’s contract is a bit easier to understand with how the NBA works though. We all know the CBA is unforgiving but with all of the news about salary cap circumvention, we’re all likely fans of the new WWE and we’re being played anyway.

[RookieStar]

:o DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!! !!! lol

Great video!

Mike Miller's comments "6'-10"... 6'-11" ... 270 lb" moving like a guard did make me go ... for a sec. Hahah. But reliving what he looked like on rookie night.... Sounds bout right

Great watch.

https://youtu.be/yAQAJ1WmDys?si=-RTUNeXaW_Auj-6n

I see a lot of distance shooting, hoping he is working on his low post game too. just feels like he doesnt use it enough

Did Paolo just say he went to a private island???? Is that "the" famous island for rich people? lol jk

[basketballRob]

:o DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY!! !!! lol

Great video!

Mike Miller's comments "6'-10"... 6'-11" ... 270 lb" moving like a guard did make me go ... for a sec. Hahah. But reliving what he looked like on rookie night.... Sounds bout right

Great watch.

https://youtu.be/yAQAJ1WmDys?si=-RTUNeXaW_Auj-6n

I see a lot of distance shooting, hoping he is working on his low post game too. just feels like he doesnt use it enough

Did Paolo just say he went to a private island???? Is that "the" famous island for rich people? lol jk

Silver has no spine. He could at least have a news conference and say the NBA doesn't tolerate that type of behavior, and the allegations will be fully investigated.

When a fan buys a ticket or pays or a tv package to watch the NBA, we assume they are following the rules that they've laid out. If the NBA condones this behavior, then they have been defrauding the fans.







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[Knightro]

God forbid I expect a max player to perform like superstar.

He does though.

His advanced metrics are off the charts good.

[Knightro]

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[thelead]

God forbid I expect a max player to perform like superstar.

He does though.

His advanced metrics are off the charts good.

He's really good. Really, really good... like multiple all-star good... but with a consistent 3pt shot, he would be great... like all-nba great. And that's what I would want for a max contract player.

[Knightro]

God forbid I expect a max player to perform like superstar.

He does though.

His advanced metrics are off the charts good.

He's really good. Really, really good... like multiple all-star good... but with a consistent 3pt shot, he would be great... like all-nba great. And that's what I would want for a max contract player.

Like 40 guys have max contracts in the league right now. Just the nature of the business.

[thelead]

He does though.

His advanced metrics are off the charts good.

He's really good. Really, really good... like multiple all-star good... but with a consistent 3pt shot, he would be great... like all-nba great. And that's what I would want for a max contract player.

Like 40 guys have max contracts in the league right now. Just the nature of the business.

That we know. But we also know that the new CBA is very unforgiving. Franz has to level up for us to win a championship. The roster will likely be worse next season once Paolo's contract kicks in and we have to make serious decisions about guys like AB, JI, Goga, Tyus, etc.

[yoyojw17]

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Jett cut his hair!

That's it... Watch out NBA!

Well.... Hope it works better than Cole's haircut. Haha

[basketballRob]

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Jett cut his hair!

That's it... Watch out NBA!

Well.... Hope it works better than Cole's haircut. Haha

I don't think that's Jett, or maybe it is.

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[RookieStar]

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Jett cut his hair!

That's it... Watch out NBA!

Well.... Hope it works better than Cole's haircut. Haha

I don't think that's Jett, or maybe it is.

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Yeah i did a doubl take... thats Jett.. and thats AB as well...

[Knightro]

Franz has to level up for us to win a championship.

I disagree. Franz is criminally underrated by this board. He's already wildly impactful on both ends of the floor.

I think the Magic could win a championship with Franz playing like the elite two-way player than he already is.

Banchero is the one who has to level up.

[thelead]

Franz has to level up for us to win a championship.

I disagree. Franz is criminally underrated by this board. He's already wildly impactful on both ends of the floor.

I think the Magic could win a championship with Franz playing like the elite two-way player than he already is.

Banchero is the one who has to level up.

Paolo absolutely needs to level up too but you’re lying to yourself if you can’t admit that Franz with a legit 3pt shot elevates this team immediately to a legit contender because of how good he is already… which is what I want out of a max player.