ImageImageImageImage

This game is a 100% Indicator that...

Moderators: Def Swami, Howard Mass, ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird

crazytown
Veteran
Posts: 2,637
And1: 757
Joined: Oct 13, 2004
Location: Los Angeles
   

 

Post#21 » by crazytown » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:12 am

FWIW: Brewer has fallen back to Earth and his minutes have gone down drastically over the past month.
User avatar
SOUL
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,716
And1: 40,744
Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Location: █████████████
     

 

Post#22 » by SOUL » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:13 am

We dont need a PG or Mike Miller. We're not going to win with Foyle if Dwights out with foul trouble.
www.rareslums.com // please support my writing!
User avatar
LakersSquad
Analyst
Posts: 3,152
And1: 132
Joined: Jun 07, 2005

 

Post#23 » by LakersSquad » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:15 am

Talk about overreacting lol. You guys are scary and I would hate to face yall in the playoffs. Pau is not gonna have Dwight in foul trouble every night. Dwight was on the bench and yall still almost won. Celtics better watch out.
User avatar
Cammo101
Mr. Mock Draft
Posts: 30,836
And1: 2,004
Joined: Feb 11, 2006
Location: Austin, TX
     

 

Post#24 » by Cammo101 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:51 am

These daily threads are out of control. We lost to the 3rd best team in the West by 4. My lord in heaven, I say lets jump off the bridge now.
lovehoops01
General Manager
Posts: 7,878
And1: 1
Joined: Nov 05, 2004
Location: Orlando

 

Post#25 » by lovehoops01 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:17 am

Oak starts threads similar to this after every game. Maybe not the same exact message but the same intent. This time, he points out nine playoff teams that the Magic have struggled to beat, seven of which are in the West. I guess if the Magic made it that far in the playoffs this year, they would be doing pretty well.

It was a tough loss. The Magic played well, but fouls kept the Magic's top two scorers out for almost two full quarters of the game. While Kobe played 46 minutes and 8 seconds of the total 48, Dwight was limited to less than 30 minutes and Turkoglu to less than 33. I think that explains a lot right there. Those are the kind of imbalanced officiating that makes me madder than hell. Pau is flopping like a rag doll and getting rewarded for it. Take Orlando's two best players out and then tell the Magic, "Ha! Try to win!" Believe me, the Lakers were fouling just as much if not more. It's not the only reason they lost the game, but it did make them play on basically one leg much of the game.

I agree that the Magic need another power player, but I wouldn't sacrifice the house to get a mediocre power player for this season. For those of you who love to say Otis thinks we're fine, he's acknowledged that he's talking to people but he also says he's not going to make a deal just for the sake of making one. When it comes right down to it, maybe people are trying to trade him garbage. You want him to make a garbage deal so you can say he tried to do something?
User avatar
zuppafly
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,020
And1: 1,015
Joined: Nov 05, 2005
Location: Portugal
Contact:
     

 

Post#26 » by zuppafly » Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:42 pm

LakersSquad wrote:Talk about overreacting lol. You guys are scary and I would hate to face yall in the playoffs. Pau is not gonna have Dwight in foul trouble every night. Dwight was on the bench and yall still almost won. Celtics better watch out.

Thank you , sir. I guess some people on this board need to look at you opinion to understand how other teams look at us.
We're not the best team in the nba, our main weapon is 22 years old, we're missing our (probably) starter PF with an injury that sidelined him for the season and still we're 12 games above .500, beat the Celtics twice, beat the Lakers at their home, beat the pistons and almost got the Lakers again even with Dwight sitting for most of the second half and Hedo playing bothered by his elbow.

Yes, in the East we can win it. It's a long shot, but we can get to the conference finals and even win it.
If we don't, well, so won't 14 other teams. We'll have the MLE, the LLE to use in order to improve the team and our expirings might just get us something good in return real soon. But if they don't I won' panic.

We are one of the best in the East and our record shows it clearly. Threads like this one are absurd.
magicfan4life05
RealGM
Posts: 23,617
And1: 198
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
Location: Welcome back the Comeback King !

 

Post#27 » by magicfan4life05 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:00 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Mike Miller is definitely a player I'd like to see us snag.
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

"I just think everybody needs to stop talking about it," Howard said. "There's more to life than free throws."
Optimus_Steel
RealGM
Posts: 38,096
And1: 12,091
Joined: Sep 16, 2003
Location: Winter Garden, FL
   

 

Post#28 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:57 pm

This game is a 100% indicator that the refs dont call games fairly.
aka: prorl
User avatar
magicmamma
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,250
And1: 30
Joined: Feb 01, 2006
 

 

Post#29 » by magicmamma » Sat Feb 9, 2008 3:44 pm

This games is a 100% indicator that the Magic can go against a WC contender and play hard, playoff-style bb for 4 quarters. Both teams played well and hard. As high as the score was, both teams played some great defense, particularly in the fourth. I don't think Kobe made an uncontested shot, and those that were made by Lakers resulted from double-teaming Kobe, who can really find the open man. Pau outsmarted Dwight. I'm sure Coach Ewing will see to it that doesn't happen again.
User avatar
UCFJayBird
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 27,229
And1: 3,647
Joined: Jul 26, 2003
Location: Orlando, FL
Contact:
     

 

Post#30 » by UCFJayBird » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:09 pm

yea i agree with Solid Snake, people need to take a chill pill. After every loss it's like it's the end of the world. You can't win them all. Be happy that we're a) 12 games above .500, b) 3rd in the East after having a LOSING record last season, and c) beating contending teams (yes we lose to them too, but that's to be expected).

News flash here guys! Our last 3 losses, @ Detroit, vs Dallas, and vs L.A., all 3 of them have better records than us. And there's a reason consider the West far superior, so take that into consideration that two of our last 3 losses were to contenders out there.
User avatar
EasternMagic
RealGM
Posts: 15,459
And1: 1,154
Joined: Oct 17, 2007

Re: This game is a 100% Indicator that... 

Post#31 » by EasternMagic » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:20 pm

oakfanintheeast wrote:Orlando needs to make a move if they are remotely serious about being a contender in the playoffs. If you can't win at home, you aren't going to win of the road. There are several teams in the nba, who orlando cannot beat if they ever met in the playoffs or finals:

1. Pistons
2. Celtics
3. Spurs
4. Suns
5. Lakers
6. Jazz
7. Cavs
8. NO
9. Etc..Houston

I'd be worried about playing the Hawks, raptors as well.

If orlando makes a move, a o'neal/Miller move, they would surely benefit and rocket past several of those teams. But they won't Otis says they're OK! yeah okay... smith is as good as a GM as he was a player.. average.

well your wrong we beat the cavs we beat the pistons at home we beat the celts at home twice we beat the lakers once with andrew bynum, we could beat huston or the jazz the suns would probably be a little easier now shawn marion less hawks and raptors? okay. they played good last night fought hard i think your getting a little worried to for nothing
User avatar
Bucs80
Analyst
Posts: 3,620
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 28, 2005
Location: Magic City

Re: This game is a 100% Indicator that... 

Post#32 » by Bucs80 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:40 pm

EasternMagic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


well your wrong we beat the cavs we beat the pistons at home we beat the celts at home twice we beat the lakers once with andrew bynum, we could beat huston or the jazz the suns would probably be a little easier now shawn marion less hawks and raptors? okay. they played good last night fought hard i think your getting a little worried to for nothing


Cavs aren't a Contender... Lebron James just make them look like that. Pistons we beat once off a final shot. And they Blew us Out the other 2 times. Houston we haven't faced with a healthy Tracy McGrady. And we lost against the Rockets without him. Jazz are obviously better.
litex wrote:I'm pretty sure that, no matter what he does, Lebron will never have "tittles" like Shaquille O'Neal does, or for that matter, Chales Barkley.
Devin 1L
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,139
And1: 965
Joined: Jun 11, 2003
 

Re: This game is a 100% Indicator that... 

Post#33 » by Devin 1L » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:11 pm

Bucs80 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Cavs aren't a Contender... Lebron James just make them look like that. Pistons we beat once off a final shot. And they Blew us Out the other 2 times. Houston we haven't faced with a healthy Tracy McGrady. And we lost against the Rockets without him. Jazz are obviously better.


Well they went to the Finals last year with basically the same team that they have now, so I think that warrants them "Contender" status.

Also, I like how you discredit us winning against the Pistons on a final shot, and then go on to point out us losing to the Rockets without acknowledging the final shot.

I can't say I'm surprised though.

You can make all these little notes and exceptions, I wouldn't expect anything less, but the fact is we're 12 games above .500, and it isn't because our schedule has been a cakewalk.

According to Jeff Sagarin (USA Today), we've had the 15th toughest schedule. [Link]

That puts us right dead center in strength of schedule, while our record is 12 games above .500; His computer ranking puts us at 9th.

For what it's worth, the only two teams ahead of us in the East (Detroit & Boston), rank 20th and 30th, respectively, in terms of difficulty of schedule.
MagicNolesFSU
Analyst
Posts: 3,314
And1: 3
Joined: Jul 04, 2007

 

Post#34 » by MagicNolesFSU » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:38 pm

people are so short-term with their thinking.
Illuminati wrote:MagicNoles is a g. Don't bring beef and there ain't no beef.
oakfanintheeast
Pro Prospect
Posts: 924
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 26, 2006

 

Post#35 » by oakfanintheeast » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:21 pm

short term or long term? orlando won't make a run deep in the playoffs with this roster.

miller and reggie evans would seriously put this team over the top. evans avgs. 3 offensive rebounds a game. And Miller running this team would be a thing of beauty.
User avatar
Cammo101
Mr. Mock Draft
Posts: 30,836
And1: 2,004
Joined: Feb 11, 2006
Location: Austin, TX
     

 

Post#36 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:01 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:short term or long term? orlando won't make a run deep in the playoffs with this roster.

miller and reggie evans would seriously put this team over the top. evans avgs. 3 offensive rebounds a game. And Miller running this team would be a thing of beauty.


Cleveland went to the finals with a lot less last year. I would rather the Magic get bounced in the 1st round this year, than them make a bad trade and morgage their future to get to the Eastern Conference Finals.
User avatar
Bucs80
Analyst
Posts: 3,620
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 28, 2005
Location: Magic City

 

Post#37 » by Bucs80 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:53 am

Cleveland got far into the playoffs because of their Defense. Same with Philadelphia, and Nets who also had 1 Man shows. Though their offenses were average at best.

But Offense alone won't get you far into the playoffs. Most people should know that.
litex wrote:I'm pretty sure that, no matter what he does, Lebron will never have "tittles" like Shaquille O'Neal does, or for that matter, Chales Barkley.
User avatar
Hairy Midget
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,338
And1: 1
Joined: Dec 17, 2005
Location: Orlando
Contact:

 

Post#38 » by Hairy Midget » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:25 am

You also can't win in the playoffs without offense, as the Magic showed last season.

You need a good balance, and so far the Magic are tilted a little closer to offense than defense. We'll still win more games in the playoffs - along with a probable series - because of our offense and Dwight playing D.
Image
sipe75
Sophomore
Posts: 117
And1: 0
Joined: Sep 17, 2006

 

Post#39 » by sipe75 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:07 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Mike Miller is definitely a player I'd like to see us snag.


Why?? don't we have enough "3pt shooters"? What about defensive? Shouldn't that be more of a priority?
User avatar
RolloTommasi
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,409
And1: 194
Joined: Dec 04, 2004

 

Post#40 » by RolloTommasi » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:20 am

sipe75 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Why?? don't we have enough "3pt shooters"? What about defensive? Shouldn't that be more of a priority?


exactly


what's the point of trading for Mike Miller ?? :crazy:

Return to Orlando Magic