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OT: Ariza behind schedule on recovery

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Post#21 » by Shishnizzle » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:52 pm

Ariza has'nt done squat in the NBA no matter what you say, he is a scrub if he is playing at all. I entered this thread because Ariza is over rated and we won the trade and for no other reason but to rub it in your Ariza lovin face. lol
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Post#22 » by maginno » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:02 pm

Mo hasn't done a thing either so you washed out. Worse he was thought of so highly by his team they traded him for the scrub Ariza and not even head to head. They had to throw in the cookie monster and an exception. :)

When Mo puts together a season instead of a month or two call me. LOL. Hopefully by playoffs both will be healthy and we can see who is more valuable to their team.
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Post#23 » by Last Guardian » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:06 pm

Mo has been a starter for 20 games, and is getting 10.7ppg on 51% shooting. And 45% from 3. Don't you think you are underrating Mo's importance just a little? Its not like he does nothing for this team, and I don't see what Ariza does for the Lakers that is so much better. In terms of straight up IQ, I will laugh at anyone who thinks Ariza has a better one.
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Post#24 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:12 pm

I think both teams got players that fit their respective teams better than the players they shipped out.

Mo's number have nearly doubled with less than double the minutes (of course he only played in 7 LAL games).

Cook eventually has become a good bench player for us.

Ariza's numbers have gone up, even starting 3 of the 24 games with them.

Instead of one team "winning" a trade, I think both teams have made out well.
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Post#25 » by richi_v25 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:16 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Otis didn't get skewered by this deal. At least not in the minds of the media or general NBA fans.

It was just a bunch of Magic fans overreacting as usual and fearing that "omg we got raped".

Per usual. :roll:


You can't call yourself a real true magic fan if you don't think the the team got raped (without lube) over in every single deal the team ever makes just look at the past
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Post#26 » by aleZ » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:19 pm

Mo lacks consistency but has more talent than ariza, while trevor always gives you 100% although he can't do much beyond hustle plays. So the trade was pretty much even. Unless Cook becomes the X factor and shows up regularly like he's done just a couple of times so far.
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Post#27 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:21 pm

aleZ wrote:Mo lacks consistency but has more talent than ariza, while trevor always gives you 100% although he can't do much beyond hustle plays. So the trade was pretty much even. Unless Cook becomes the X factor and shows up regularly like he's done just a couple of times so far.


If Evans and Ariza cancel each other out, then whatever Cook gives us is a bonus.

I like Evan's IQ - seems like every games he gets open underneath the basket for an easy dunk. That's knowing the defense and knowing where holes are.
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Post#28 » by Jajwanda » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:33 pm

Wow it's almost like you losers cheer for someone to get hurt just to justify what you'd like.

Ariza was playing flat out great for the Lakers.
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Post#29 » by penn24 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:33 pm

Based simply on black and white...we won the trade because we gave up a situational player for a starter and a bench player....they are obviously giving us more than Ariza did while he was here.

Wish him the best in his recovery...he's got an exciting team to come back to.
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Post#30 » by MagicMadness » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:40 pm

richi_v25 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You can't call yourself a real true magic fan if you don't think the the team got raped (without lube) over in every single deal the team ever makes just look at the past


Every single deal? The Magic "lose" every deal they make?

While the Magic have made their share of mistakes, so has every single franchise in existence. Don't forget the good deals we've made.
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Post#31 » by maginno » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:12 pm

penn24 wrote:Based simply on black and white...we won the trade because we gave up a situational player for a starter and a bench player....they are obviously giving us more than Ariza did while he was here.
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one sided argument by that rational they won because they gave up two players that barely played for them for a key piece that started some games. Plus sorry Mo can have a surge here and there but at 30 he has little upside to Ariza about 8 years his junior.

Expiration of contract is a wash. they both expire this year. Ariza is far more likely to resign in LA than a guy looking for his final big contract will be.

So the more fair thing to say is that i twill take a year or two to know who go t the better of this trade. Cook? give me a break. The expectations for him are so low that if he gives us one good game for every three we say he's working out.
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Post#32 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:16 pm

Jajwanda wrote:Wow it's almost like you losers cheer for someone to get hurt just to justify what you'd like.

Ariza was playing flat out great for the Lakers.


I wouldnt say that. Ariza had several good games for them but he also had several horrible games. He was very inconsistant and was struggling before he got hurt. Trevor is a good kid and he plays hard so i hope he gets well soon but that sucks for him that he keeps getting all those foot problems.
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