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Who Should We Bench, Hedo or Rashard?

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Post#21 » by y 2 a B » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:05 pm

Yes it's pretty clear that Hedo would be moved to SG and Evans would shift over to the bench.

This would play Rashard at his natural position, and our bench would gain greater depth.
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Post#22 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:06 pm

y 2 a B wrote:Yes it's pretty clear that Hedo would be moved to SG and Evans would shift over to the bench.

This would play Rashard at his natural position, and our bench would gain greater depth.


Why is Hedo our of position (SG) > Rashard out of position (PF)?
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Post#23 » by theTHIEF » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:07 pm

i dont think it's that clear...
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Post#24 » by y 2 a B » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:08 pm

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Why is Hedo our of position (SG) > Rashard out of position (PF)?


I would rather play Hedo "out of position" over Rashard because in the event that we do land a PF that ends up starting for us, I really can't see either of the two going to the bench.

Hedo is too good to be sent to the bench, and you just can't bench a player like Rashard. Then people will be complaining that we paid $118 million to a guy to be our 6th man...
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Post#25 » by Last Guardian » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:09 pm

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Why is Hedo our of position (SG) > Rashard out of position (PF)?


Easy. Hedo has guard skills, like shooting, passing and driving. At 6'10 he'd have a size advantage everynight.

Rashard at PF, he is undersized, lacks rebounding and post defense for that position. Hedo at SG certainly makes more sense than Rashard at PF IF we were to get a starting PF. I don't mind if it stays the way it is either.
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Post#26 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:15 pm

Solid Snake wrote:Easy. Hedo has guard skills, like shooting, passing and driving. At 6'10 he'd have a size advantage everynight.

Rashard at PF, he is undersized, lacks rebounding and post defense for that position. Hedo at SG certainly makes more sense than Rashard at PF IF we were to get a starting PF. I don't mind if it stays the way it is either.


I see some of the advantages that Hedo has not there when playing the 2 - he's dealing with a faster opponent, which will impact him on both ends of the court.

I don't think it's huge stretch for him to move to the 2. I just don't think he'll be as effective as he is now.
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Post#27 » by aleZ » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:16 pm

Solid Snake wrote:Easy. Hedo has guard skills, like shooting, passing and driving. At 6'10 he'd have a size advantage everynight.


Hedo would get torched against the top tier SGs, at least Shard has enough size and athleticism to play his patented matador defense. Besides, I don't understand where all this "bench this and that" come from, it's not like we got any new bigman, or is it?
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Post#28 » by GarrityTwin » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:22 pm

For the record and since I cover the magic at games, Hedo rather come off the bench. So it wouldnt really matter to him anyways.
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Post#29 » by Last Guardian » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:33 pm

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I see some of the advantages that Hedo has not there when playing the 2 - he's dealing with a faster opponent, which will impact him on both ends of the court.

I don't think it's huge stretch for him to move to the 2. I just don't think he'll be as effective as he is now.


Okay, but he is way too big for them. Hedo would be tougher to guard for them and they are for him.
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Post#30 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:45 pm

Solid Snake wrote:Okay, but he is way too big for them. Hedo would be tougher to guard for them and they are for him.


Only if he started to post up.

He wouldn't be able to drive by SGs the way he does against Fs.

But he'd have a height advantage and would add some rebounding to the backcourt.

Just to me he would be out of position or his current comfort-zone at the 2.
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Post#31 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:46 pm

GarrityTwin wrote:For the record and since I cover the magic at games, Hedo rather come off the bench. So it wouldnt really matter to him anyways.


Waa?

How do you cover the Magic at games?
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Post#32 » by parso15 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:47 pm

spinedoc wrote:Hedo of course. You don't sign a guy to a max deal and then trade for a marginal pf only to bench your big time free agent, well at least no sane person would anyway. Hedo will still get plenty of playing time, getting all the backup sf minutes plus some when Rashard rotates to the 4 during stretches. Hedo makes a better sixth man anyway.


Stupid thread considering there is no deal to speak of... don't get me started with the above reasoning... what is wrong with some folks. Either they are obsessed with trading Hedo or bench him...
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Post#33 » by Cammo101 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:56 pm

craig01 wrote:Hedo wouldn't have come off the bench IMO.

The new PF would.


Exactly. Why do people not get this. It would be a terrible idea to mvoe either Hedo or Shard to the bench. This team is playing well as is and adding a big would make him the 6th man, not a starter. He would play 25 mins or so a night and more if the matchups deem it so. Messing with Hedo or Shard is a recipe for disaster.
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Post#34 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:00 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Exactly. Why do people not get this. It would be a terrible idea to mvoe either Hedo or Shard to the bench. This team is playing well as is and adding a big would make him the 6th man, not a starter. He would play 25 mins or so a night and more if the matchups deem it so. Messing with Hedo or Shard is a recipe for disaster.


All depends on who the PF would be.

If it's Bradley, I think he should be starting. He brings size, shooting and ball movement to the 1st team that would offset putting Lewis/Hedo on the bench. Reports are also that he's a good chemistry guy.

Otherwise I'm not so sure.
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Post#35 » by karizma87 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:11 pm

benching hedo would be like a slap in the face to him...gameplan wise, if we don't surround howard with 4 shooters like we are now (which is what a starting pf/c would do), the magic won't be as good a team. this is why we need a defensive minded/rebounding PF to come off the bench.
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Post#36 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:14 pm

karizma87 wrote:benching hedo would be like a slap in the face to him...gameplan wise, if we don't surround howard with 4 shooters like we are now (which is what a starting pf/c would do), the magic won't be as good a team. this is why we need a defensive minded/rebounding PF to come off the bench.


Miller is not a shooter?
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Post#37 » by karizma87 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:07 pm

miller is a center, hes not gonna have that kind of range...
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Post#38 » by theTHIEF » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:15 pm

Miller shoots 3's FYI...
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Post#39 » by karizma87 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:24 pm

I know how miller plays :) he can shoot them when he is wide open with lots of time. what makes the magic so good and unique, as you saw against the pistons, is having the 1-2 punch with two SF. I'd actually like to see how the magic ould play in a classic line-up with a PF and 1SF, but why fix what isn't broken?

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