Looking towards NBA draft prospects

magicfanejc42 · Post #41 » by **magicfanejc42** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:35 pm

There are a few guys I'd not mind seeing in magic blue.

Joey Dorsey- has the build of Dwight Howard and is a very effective post player.

Chris Lofton(Who will most likely not make it to our pick)- is a lights out shooter but a good defender and can play PG if needed.

Thabeet- I love this guy, I think he could be great!

Augustin- good shooter,passer, and leader.

Wayne Chism- The man is so underrated.

Douglas Roberts- a good player but we don't need him.(wouldn't mnid him though.)

Brook Lopez- very good big, but could have problems with his supposed attitude.

Anybody saying Calathes needs to wait, he is only a freshman this year and I can only figure he would stay in college at least 2 more years.

There are a few other guys, but those are the ones at the top of my head right now.

Oh, and any of the Smith's out of Tennessee....those boys are some ballers.

drsd · Post #42 » by **drsd** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:56 pm

zuppafly wrote:If you think Nelson would start over Rose you need to revise a lot about Nelson. And to clear things out, I defend Nelson as the starting PG in this team now, because there is nobody better than him in this team to run the point. But Rose would obviously be a huge upgrade right from day 1 on the starting lineup.

We will continue to disagree here. The question at hand is not if Rose has more upside than Nelson, nor whether or not after a couple of NBA-training years if he will be a quality PG in the NBA. I think the answer for both is a clear yes. Any Miami-type team will be lucky to draft this kid.

My point is if next-year Rose will be better than Nelson. The answer there is a flat no. Rookie PGs are ALWAYS horrible. Troy Hudson HORRIBLE.

zuppafly · Post #43 » by **zuppafly** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:59 pm

Ok, we'll agree to disagree on this.

OrlandoMagic · Post #44 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:08 pm

2 words: Tyler Hansbrough

magicfan4life05 · Post #45 » by **magicfan4life05** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:09 pm

hed be awesome next to howard

MagicFan149 · Post #46 » by **MagicFan149** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:10 pm

chris lofton is just a lil quicker jj reddick... he is not a pg... but he is a lights out shooter

dont you think that thabeet just seems to be extremely soft... havent got to watch him too much was just wondering

Cammo101 · Post #47 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:10 pm

drsd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

White is an undersized PF who would take five years to get to an Outlaw-upside level. As a rookie, White would absolutely be a practice squad guy. Augustine is more useful, as a horrific example!

Weaver is a combo guard that would be buried on the bench behind Dooling. He would not see a nano-second of playing time unless three SGs on the Magic roster went down to injury.

So, I can ding your two points and stand by my quote, "there is not a single player in the draft that would get playing time on next years roster."

DJ White may lack upside but he is ready to play now and is the dirty work Haslem-esque big man everyone here is clamouring for. Weaver is a combo guard who would easily play over Bogans as the backup SG. And those were just the guys in the 20's. Beasley, Lopez, Hibbert, Gordon, Mayo...the list goes on of guys in next years draft who would absolutely crack our rotation.

Cammo101 · Post #48 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:11 pm

thEthIEf wrote:too bad we dont need a SF, this draft is rich with quality SF's...

SF is the weakest position in this draft.

Cammo101 · Post #49 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:12 pm

zuppafly wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If you think Nelson would start over Rose you need to revise a lot about Nelson. And to clear things out, I defend Nelson as the starting PG in this team now, because there is nobody better than him in this team to run the point. But Rose would obviously be a huge upgrade right from day 1 on the starting lineup.

I would kill to get Rose, but Nelson would start over him NEXT YEAR. Rose is still pretty raw and not ready to be a teams starting PG.

drsd · Post #50 » by **drsd** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:21 pm

Cammo101 wrote:I would kill to get Rose, but Nelson would start over him NEXT YEAR. Rose is still pretty raw and not ready to be a teams starting PG.

Yet sadly, he will start. Miami could desperately use him (no PG next year). As could Minny (Telfair is a joke), New York (can you imagine a rookie salary starting over a 30 million dollar bench of PGs???), Charlotte (Felton would be a good back up to Rose), Seattle (they have 3 third-string guys). Even Memphis would take Rose over Conley.

As is typical in the NBA, bad teams lack even a mediocre PG. Thus, Rose will be a quality upgrade from day one on a bad team, and he will start. Sadly, that means that team will stay bad as Rose pushes through his rookie year.

Cammo101 · Post #51 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:23 pm

drsd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yet sadly, he will start. Miami could desperately use him (no PG next year). As could Minny (Telfair is a joke), New York (can you imagine a rookie salary starting over a 30 million dollar bench of PGs???), Charlotte (Felton would be a good back up to Rose), Seattle (they have 3 third-string guys). Even Memphis would take Rose over Conley.

As is typical in the NBA, bad teams lack even a mediocre PG. Thus, Rose will be a quality upgrade from day one on a bad team, and he will start. Sadly, that means that team will stay bad as Rose pushes through his rookie year.

There are teams where Rose will start from day one, we are not one of them. Rose is a good PG who can become great, but he is not an immediate impact guy.

oakfanintheeast · Post #52 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:30 pm

SS_MagicMark wrote:Scottie Reynolds would be a nice PG option if he comes out, but he probably stays at 'Nova for at least another year. David Padgett might be worth a look as a training camp invitee. I doubt anyone drafts him with his injury history, but he's got a Brad Miller-type game.

i'm a huge nova fan and would be shocked if scottie didnt play 4 years at nova. he's really slow, small, and a 2 in a 1's body.

OrlandoMagic · Post #53 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:07 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

There are teams where Rose will start from day one, we are not one of them. Rose is a good PG who can become great, but he is not an immediate impact guy.

Isnt this what was said about Paul and Williams?

Cammo101 · Post #54 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:29 pm

OrlandoMagic wrote:2 words: Tyler Hansbrough

Two words: Christian Laettner

Hansbrough is an undersized PF who gets by because he is stronger than the guys he plays. He won't be in the NBA. Unless he adds a jumper he is Sean May 2.0.

Cammo101 · Post #55 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:30 pm

OrlandoMagic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Isnt this what was said about Paul and Williams?

No. Those guys were instant impact guys out of college. Rose is much more of a project. Rose can be a backup right away, but not a starter from day 1.

oakfanintheeast · Post #56 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:33 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Two words: Christian Laettner

Hansbrough is an undersized PF who gets by because he is stronger than the guys he plays. He won't be in the NBA. Unless he adds a jumper he is Sean May 2.0.

Two words: JJ redick

handsborough is like 23 . his offensive game is God awful, as you said.

leo6287 · Post #57 » by **leo6287** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:34 pm

Darren Collison is Perfect and Realistic

From DraftExpress.com

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Cammo101 · Post #58 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:18 am

I don't think Collison will fall that far, but if so I would love him.