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Post#21 » by TNMagicFan » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:20 pm

Out of curiuosity, what is the luxury tax threshold ?
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Post#22 » by EasternMagic » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:25 pm

harrington is more aggressive than Lewis he plays with more energy and can get the boards a bit better
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Post#23 » by surflawyer » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:07 pm

d12fan wrote:Out of curiuosity, what is the luxury tax threshold ?


Without looking it up right now I believe that it is 72+ mil this year expected to be maybe 74 mil next year. I cant recall whether the last amount set was for this season or for next as well.

All in all we will have 10 contracts this summer at 59 mil. A 5.5 mil MLE bringing us to 64.5 mil. Resign Dooling at 4 mil brings us to 68.5 mil Resign Evans at 4 mil that takes us to 72.5 mil and we have two roster spots to fill with vet mins of 1.5 mil each bringing us to a grand total of 75.5 mil. This assumes that we dont have to replace Foyle (player option) and Gortat (team option).
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Post#24 » by theTHIEF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:11 pm

$72m?
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Post#25 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:19 pm

d12fan wrote:Out of curiuosity, what is the luxury tax threshold ?


http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#16

2005-06; $61.7 million; Knicks ($37.2), Mavs ($17.3), Magic ($7.8 ), Pacers ($4.7), Grizzlies ($3.7), Spurs ($0.9)
2006-07; $65.42 million; Knicks ($45.1), Mavs ($7.2), Nuggets ($2.0), T-Wolves ($1.0), Spurs ($0.2)
2007-08; $67.865 million

* For 2005-06 they used a set amount of $61.7 million rather than applying the formula. Had the formula been used, the tax level would have been approximately $63.7 million.
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Post#26 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:21 pm

surflawyer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Without looking it up right now I believe that it is 72+ mil this year expected to be maybe 74 mil next year. I cant recall whether the last amount set was for this season or for next as well.

All in all we will have 10 contracts this summer at 59 mil. A 5.5 mil MLE bringing us to 64.5 mil. Resign Dooling at 4 mil brings us to 68.5 mil Resign Evans at 4 mil that takes us to 72.5 mil and we have two roster spots to fill with vet mins of 1.5 mil each bringing us to a grand total of 75.5 mil. This assumes that we dont have to replace Foyle (player option) and Gortat (team option).


If Fran comes over (11th pick scale based on 05-06):
1st year: 1,495.2
2nd year: 1,607.3
3rd year: 1,719.5
4th year: 32.7% 4th Year Option: Percentage Increase Over 3rd Year Salary)
5th year: 36.9% 5th Year Option: Percentage Increase Over 4th Year Salary)
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Post#27 » by theTHIEF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:22 pm

$72m sounded high
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Post#28 » by Bucs80 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:I don't like him shooting all those 3s, plus he looks like a major pain in the a** in the locker room.


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Post#29 » by Furinkazan » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:35 pm

I bet
Otis is not interested..
as always
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Post#30 » by surflawyer » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:50 pm

thEthIEf wrote:$72m sounded high


Yikes :( ...... were in bad shape. I thought it was higher. :banghead:
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Post#31 » by knappy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:34 pm

thEthIEf wrote:i'm high on the guy...i've been a fan of his since early on in his first stint with Indy...

it would appear, at least based on what you read, that Nellie is fed up with Harrington, and typically, what Nellie says goes...


Whatever momentum we had, [Harrington] always seemed to be there to miss a shot or make a turnover or a foul or something
- Nelson said after their loss to to Atlanta...

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080224-sam-smith-trade-deadline,1,4680781.column

Nelson
Turk
Lewis
Harrington
Howard

sign me up...

and shockingly enough, apparently that whole Chris Webber thing really aint working out...i'm totally shocked...


Maybe we could trade some of our expiring contracts and another piece - oppps, my bad Otis hung onto them.
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Post#32 » by theTHIEF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:36 pm

oh zing...
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Post#33 » by zerp » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:39 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:I bet
Otis is not interested..
as always


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Post#34 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:47 am

Harrington is definitely not well liked by Nelson

There was a rumor of Warriors trading Harrington, Pietrus & O'Bryant to Bulls for Ben Wallace. Warriors would then have used part of their $10 million Trade Exception (from J-Rich trade) to take another Bull to complete the trade.

HOWEVER - the trade fell through. Was it because Paxson found a better deal with Cleveland? Was it because Warriors figured Ben wasnt worth his future salary? I dont know - but that trade was definitely discussed & Nelson alluded to it during an interview at the Bulls game in February (but didnt name names)
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Post#35 » by drsd » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:49 am

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



If Fran comes over (11th pick scale based on 05-06):
1st year: 1,495.2
2nd year: 1,607.3
3rd year: 1,719.5
4th year: 32.7% 4th Year Option: Percentage Increase Over 3rd Year Salary)
5th year: 36.9% 5th Year Option: Percentage Increase Over 4th Year Salary)



I recall there is a CBA line that allows the Magic to sign Fran for more than the above. Any updates on that point?
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Post#36 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:27 am

drsd wrote:I recall there is a CBA line that allows the Magic to sign Fran for more than the above. Any updates on that point?


My understanding is that if/when he comes over, as a lottery pick, he gets the rookie scale based on the first year he plays.

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Post#37 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:43 am

I believe it is the rookie scale for the year he was drafted...
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Post#38 » by mhectorgato » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:26 pm

bulls6 wrote:I believe it is the rookie scale for the year he was drafted...


Which would make sense - a disincentive for players from sitting out/playing overseas to get more money if/when they make it to the NBA.
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Post#39 » by surflawyer » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:38 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Which would make sense - a disincentive for players from sitting out/playing overseas to get more money if/when they make it to the NBA.


What we pay him and what cap hold he has are two different things. I recall something that may increase the cap hold. I guess it may be an incemtive for teams not to squirel players away overseas and then bring them in for cheap? IDK
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