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Post#81 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:46 pm

maginno wrote:In a word juvenile. But hardly surprising. but please continue. I have no problem with lurkers seeing how intellectually stimulating you guys can be. It goes a long way in explaining why these arguments rage on because its hardly something you don't do regularly.


I can't hear you lalalalalalalala

I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!

:naaa:

BTW - Not sure if you're aware of this fact or not - that richboy created an alternate account as cassiequeen, posted using both accounts simultaneously and was suspended for that action.
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Post#82 » by maginno » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:27 pm

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I can't hear you lalalalalalalala

I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!

:naaa:


You ARE a good little boy. Very obedient. feel free for some more if you wish

BTW - Not sure if you're aware of this fact or not - that richboy created an alternate account as cassiequeen, posted using both accounts simultaneously and was suspended for that action.


Nohing to do with me son. You followed Spinedoc's Man-gina and Bitchboy with Richboy and cassiequeen. I'm not Cassiequeen so you are both acting like kids although in your defense I don't know your age so you might be.
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Post#83 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:42 pm

maginno wrote:Nohing to do with me son. You followed Spinedoc's Man-gina and Bitchboy with Richboy and cassiequeen. I'm not Cassiequeen so you are both acting like kids although in your defense I don't know your age so you might be.


My post had nothing to do with you, as the dynamic duo in my post was Rich and his alter-ego, cassiequeen. (though perhaps I think thou dost protest too much ;-))

If I were referring to you, I would have used "Mags", as I have done numerous times. I've never been shy about using that that nickname.

Care to print a retraction about your "juvenile" and "kids" comments which were directed at me, as there obviously was a misunderstanding?
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Post#84 » by maginno » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:52 pm

mhectorgato wrote:
Care to print a retraction about your "juvenile" and "kids" comments which were directed at me, as there obviously was a misunderstanding?


As a matter of fact yes I do. Coming on the heels of Spinedocs juvenile duo I don't think it strange I would take it that way. But if you say so Gato - I entirely believe you. Juvenile and kid comments withdrawn - well exccept for the whole paper and glue stuff.

Spinedoc now holds the title of juvenile of the thread by himself.
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Post#85 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:55 pm

maginno wrote:As a matter of fact yes I do. Coming on the heels of Spinedocs juvenile duo I don't think it strange I would take it that way. But if you say so Gato - I entirely believe you. Juvenile and kid comments withdrawn - well exccept for the whole paper and glue stuff.


:clap:

Well the paper and glue stuff still bounces off of me ...
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Post#86 » by maginno » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:02 pm

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:clap:

Well the paper and glue stuff still bounces off of me ...


Still - my dad is better than your dad

(we can do the whole Rush Hour Carter Lee dad routine. That was hilarious)
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Post#87 » by theTHIEF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:08 pm

oh maginno with a jovial side...
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Post#88 » by mhectorgato » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:25 pm

thEthIEf wrote:oh maginno with a jovial side...


How juvenile :rolleyes:





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Post#89 » by theTHIEF » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:26 pm

:D
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Post#90 » by spinedoc » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:03 pm

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As a matter of fact yes I do. Coming on the heels of Spinedocs juvenile duo I don't think it strange I would take it that way. But if you say so Gato - I entirely believe you. Juvenile and kid comments withdrawn - well exccept for the whole paper and glue stuff.

Spinedoc now holds the title of juvenile of the thread by himself.


Gee thanks. Like I said, I was just playing, trying to lighten up the mood a little. Given the totality of your posts, you seem stable enough to handle it. I'm usually not much of a name caller, I'll try to refrain from it in the future. I'll behave, I promise. :wink:
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Post#91 » by craig01 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:45 pm

Spinedoc gets detention all week.
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Post#92 » by maginno » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:23 pm

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Gee thanks. Like I said, I was just playing, trying to lighten up the mood a little. Given the totality of your posts, you seem stable enough to handle it. I'm usually not much of a name caller, I'll try to refrain from it in the future. I'll behave, I promise. :wink:


Me? I didn't really care about my name - Man Gina sounds like a powerful herbal drink you might use for a lasting romantic night, I have no problem being a symbol of masculine endurance. :love:

But um.....Lightening Rich's mood by calling him a bitchboy is a bit of a stretch. Unless you know something about him we don't. No don't go there just admit your fibbing. :wavefinger:
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Post#93 » by TheGlyde » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:17 pm

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Me? I didn't really care about my name - Man Gina sounds like a powerful herbal drink you might use for a lasting romantic night, I have no problem being a symbol of masculine endurance. :love:

But um.....Lightening Rich's mood by calling him a bitchboy is a bit of a stretch. Unless you know something about him we don't. No don't go there just admit your fibbing. :wavefinger:


Well he does have a female alter ego :laugh:
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Post#94 » by craig01 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:34 pm

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Well he does have a female alter ego :laugh:


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Post#95 » by spinedoc » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:45 pm

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Well he does have a female alter ego :laugh:


Yep, should have stuck with Cassie. Its a classic.
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Post#96 » by richboy » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:19 am

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In the same post no less. Do I get a free shot at name calling then?, because you do it too often for it to be an honest mistake. How about Man-gina and Bitchboy, the "impressive depressive duo". I've got another one, hypocrite maybe? Sorry, just playing, but I couldn't resist after reading that. :lol:


Its never been a mistake. I think I been taking it easy just calling you spin. Never considered it a name call just a creative play off how you actually post. You are the doctor of Spin atleast for this front office and the moves they make could make.
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Post#97 » by richboy » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:08 am

Solid Snake wrote:All I care about is results. These guys can continue to spout nonsense about the flaws of our team and the ineptitude of management. These were the same people saying Charlotte and Atlanta would have better records. That the Magic would be fighting for the 8th seed at best but probably finish with 33 wins. Now that we are on pace for 50+ wins, their attitude changes to the predictable "regular season doesn't matter" bull crap. Just trying to cover up their horrible misjudging of the Magic season. Its fine though. They claim they have "higher standards". Oh, well, excuse us. I thought you were the guys who thought the Magic had little to no chance to make the playoffs, while most of us did, yet now you have the higher standards for the team. My how things change.

What it comes down to is, we are the most impressive 36-22 team in history. I mean, we have no starting power forward. Our point guards are awful. We have no starting shooting guard. We have no bench. We have no rebounding or defense aside from 1 player. Management is among the worst in the league. We waste draft after draft. Don't you guys think it is quite impressive to have the record we do?


Don't know who had the Magic winning 33 games. I had this team winning 45 wins. Do I think that there much better than I thought because they win 50. Not really because if I knew the East would suck this much 50 wins would remain a potential possibilty.

The fact is how do you judge your GM. IMO what happens on the floor does not give credence to the GM many times. The players play the coaches coach and the GM watches.

A GMs job is to add talent around the team. Fix holes. Put the best team he can out on the floor. Since Otis has become GM how well has he done that job? Wouild these be fair statements?

The Magic have gotten less talented at PG under Otis.
The Magic have gotten less talented at SG under Otis
The Magic have no true PF
The Magic have less big man talent than prior to Otis.
The Magic are compariable in talent at SF with Hedo, Rashard in comparison to Hedo and Grant Hill.
The Magic are in worse cap situation than prior to Otis

Just to put some stats to those statements here are the numbers.

http://www.82games.com/0708/0708ORL5.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0506/0506ORL5.HTM

Now looking at the numbers you see 1 level of improvement. The Center position is as productive as any in the league. What has Otis done as GM outside watch Dwight go from a rookie to one of the best bigs in the league. He did do a good job hiring SVG but is that enough to say he is a good GM.

Basing a GM by record is a waste of time. If that was the case Presti has done horrible and Danny Ferry has done great. Perhaps there should be a statue of Jerry Krause outside the United Center. Last year I heard Bulls fans say how great John Paxson was because look at the record. Even though he gave a ridiculous contract to Ben Wallace, passed on LeMarcus Aldridge, gave away Tyson Chandler and consistently let his expiring contract expire without compensation.. Couldn't make a big trade to ever get the kind of player they needed to make the next step.

The reality is you have a great improving player your team should improve. What level of credit should the GM get then. I'm looking at Otis and thinking if Dwight was still playing like he did when he was a kid then this team be a barely playoff team in a horrible conference at best.
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Post#98 » by drsd » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:47 am

Francis was more talented than Nelson, but Nelson is BY A LOT more of a winner.

Stevenson to Bogans is not a major change.

Hill to Turkoglu is a surprising upgrade.

Lewis is an upgrade over Battie at PF.

Howard is an upgrade over DQ. :)


The Magic have less depth at the bigs because they are developing Gortat, and Battie's fluke injury. Next year (especially if Vazquez comes over), the Magic will be overly flush with Bigs.



The Magic roster is as a team the best roster an Orlando GM has assembled since the mid-90s.
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Post#99 » by spinedoc » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:41 pm

richboy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Its never been a mistake. I think I been taking it easy just calling you spin. Never considered it a name call just a creative play off how you actually post. You are the doctor of Spin atleast for this front office and the moves they make could make.


Aw, your too kind.
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Post#100 » by richboy » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:47 am

drsd wrote:Francis was more talented than Nelson, but Nelson is BY A LOT more of a winner.

Stevenson to Bogans is not a major change.

Hill to Turkoglu is a surprising upgrade.

Lewis is an upgrade over Battie at PF.

Howard is an upgrade over DQ. :)


The Magic have less depth at the bigs because they are developing Gortat, and Battie's fluke injury. Next year (especially if Vazquez comes over), the Magic will be overly flush with Bigs.



The Magic roster is as a team the best roster an Orlando GM has assembled since the mid-90s.


How is Nelson more a winner?

Hedo was on this team already.

Rashard playing out of position is due to svg. Brian Hill probably should have played Hill, Turk, Ariza on the front line together.

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