Wizards have a problem

[aleZ]

No you won't. You'll find something else you don't like and keep complaining just like you have all this time.

And you'll be there telling everyone this board sucks and we're not the fans we should be, Otis is always right, you watch all the games etc. Everything has chains, absolutely nothing changes?

[lovehoops01]

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And you'll be there telling everyone this board sucks and we're not the fans we should be, Otis is always right, you watch all the games etc. Everything has chains, absolutely nothing changes?

I didn't say any of that. But apparently you'll be there trying to pick a fight, too.

[aleZ]

I didn't say any of that. But apparently you'll be there trying to pick a fight, too.

Nah, I just love to remind ppl we're all equal on this board, no matter the number of posts and login dates. But it seems like some ppl put themselves a lil' higher just because they (admittedly) know a lot about the Magic and the the NBA in general.

[lovehoops01]

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Nah, I just love to remind ppl we're all equal on this board, no matter the number of posts and login dates. But it seems like some ppl put themselves a lil' higher just because they (admittedly) know a lot about the Magic and the the NBA in general.

Well, if you're going to call me out, at least wait for me to do one of those things that you accused me of.

[mhectorgato]

And you'll be there telling everyone this board sucks and we're not the fans we should be, Otis is always right, you watch all the games etc. Everything has chains, absolutely nothing changes?

However, with the poster he replied to, that would be case.

We could be having the season the Cs are having and seniore Vee would still find something to find fault with.

Remember his avatar of Dwight in Laker uniform?
Remember his 37-45 prediction this pre-season?

[TheRevTy]

On topic, I have to think this whole ordeal has an effect on Gilbert's willingness to resign with Washington. I see a team who has gelled in his absence attempting to keep him out further, not for "caution" but for continuity. Gilbert is quick to feel slighted, so he may be packing his bags to leave the nation's capitol this summer.

Maybe Washington is holding him out with the intention of not offering a max contract this summer. As in, if everyone else thinks he isn't healthy, they won't offer max, and therefor Washington doesn't have to, either. I think this backfires and Arenas signs elsewhere for less, just to spite the Wizards.

[mhectorgato]

On topic, I have to think this whole ordeal has an effect on Gilbert's willingness to resign with Washington. I see a team who has gelled in his absence attempting to keep him out further, not for "caution" but for continuity. Gilbert is quick to feel slighted, so he may be packing his bags to leave the nation's capitol this summer.

Maybe Washington is holding him out with the intention of not offering a max contract this summer. As in, if everyone else thinks he isn't healthy, they won't offer max, and therefor Washington doesn't have to, either. I think this backfires and Arenas signs elsewhere for less, just to spite the Wizards.

I see where you're going with this ... he'll sign with us for the MLE long enough for us to acquire his right.

Brilliant.

[Optimus_Steel]

The Wizzies will be better with Arenas in the playoffs.

The regular season is much different than the playoffs and Arenas adds a lot to their makeup.

I agree, but only if Arenas is close to being truly healthy in the playoffs. Earlier in the season when Arenas was playing and gimpy he was playing terrible and was holding that team back. His shooting % was way off (compared to his normal %) and the offense looked terrible because he handles the ball so much and was making terrible decisions since he was limited physically. I expect that to continue, remember he has missed basically the entire season and prob wont be fully healed. Although i expect that to continue, i dont think it will to the extent that it was earlier in the season. But an Arenas that is not remotely healthy doesnt make them better i think. Makes them discombobulated thus easier to beat, if he is not approaching 100% they are better off without him.

[TheRevTy]

mhec,

Isn't it, though?

[flyingvee]

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If you think we honestly had the pieces to get a Kevin Garnett or even a Ray Allen in the offseason without moving Dwight himself you have rocks in your head.

So who did the Celtics give up to get those two guys. I didn't see them give up any 'Dwight" like pieces. Lakers got Gasol for junk. Spurs got K Thomas for junk. Simply put put, Otis conceded that this year just getting to the 2nd round is enough.

[J-Mezzy]

Well, the Sonics got the 5th pick, which was good for them since they were in rebuilt mode.

We had nothing to get Garnett. Big Al is a fine young player. We had nobody of his caliber to give up other than Dwight.

[J-Mezzy]

By the way, I want no piece of the Wizards. They are playoffs experienced and have 2/3 studs and some big bodies to throw at Dwight.

Gimmie Philly, their youth, inexperience, and lack of size and shooting

[mhectorgato]

So who did the Celtics give up to get those two guys. I didn't see them give up any 'Dwight" like pieces. Lakers got Gasol for junk. Spurs got K Thomas for junk. Simply put put, Otis conceded that this year just getting to the 2nd round is enough.

Depending on whom you ask, Al Jefferson is a "Dwight" like piece.

Both are young promising big man. Of course we accept that Dwight's upside is bigger, but Jefferson is more polished on the offensive end. Also he was one of the primary guys - in addition to Pierce - they were building around with their youth movement

[TheGlyde]

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So who did the Celtics give up to get those two guys. I didn't see them give up any 'Dwight" like pieces. Lakers got Gasol for junk. Spurs got K Thomas for junk. Simply put put, Otis conceded that this year just getting to the 2nd round is enough.

Wake up and smell the coffee bro...

To get KG Jefferson was clearly a more attractive trade asset than anything we had on this team not named Dwight... as was the 5th pick for Seattle to get Ray Allen. Hedo hadn't exploded at the time, so who were we going to offer for Ray Allen? Darko? Jameer? please.

K Thomas is a 3 month rental who the Spurs gave up a 1st round pick for, there would have been outrage here if we had traded a 1st for him, the Gasol trade was clearly in favour of the Lakers, but if you are measuring by that then there are 29 GM's who need to be fired for not ripping off the Grizzlies.

[TheGlyde]

I can't believe the attitude of some of you guys, earlier you all wrote the team off saying that we wouldn't possibly win 40 games, and now at 46 wins with 10 to go instead of shutting up and eating some crow you write the team off saying we won't possibly get out of the second round, how about you fricken support the damn team and wait and see how we do before burying us? a novel concept in this day and age I know.

Maybe we don't make it out of the 2nd round, talk to Atlanta fans who haven't even been to the playoffs in 9 years, or other teams with big playoff droughts, hell we haven't been out of the first round in 12 years and now you are disgusted becuase we may only have our best season in 12 years instead of our best season in franchise friken history? get a grip.

Teams take time to gel, some of the powerhouse teams of the 80s and nineties were together for years before they broke through, even Jordan's bulls got turned away season after season before breaking through and beating the Pistons, did they blow the team up each time the failed? no.

This team improved last year, has improved this year, if we go backwards next year, then start your damn squawking but as long as we are improving, then how about showing a little patience, and a little support, for your supposed friken favourite team.

[craig01]

Patience.

A word that often gets confused with loser on these boards.

Great post Glyde.

BTW- I predicted around a .500 record. I will be hosting a "crow" bbq next month.

[mhectorgato]

Patience.

A word that often gets confused with loser on these boards.

Great post Glyde.

BTW- I predicted around a .500 record. I will be hosting a "crow" bbq next month.

I'll start to pick up some roadkill ...

[MagicMadness]

Patience.

A word that often gets confused with loser on these boards.

Great post Glyde.

BTW- I predicted around a .500 record. I will be hosting a "crow" bbq next month.

I think most of us will be attending. I could be mistaken, but I think the board average on amount of wins this year was something like 44 or 45.

[doom]Well, I guess we'll actually be close, considering 46 isn't too far off.[/gloom]

[FFBlitzace]

I officially predicted 44 wins in the thread we had before the season.

So we have obviously surpassed that. But it would be a complete lie if I said I was satisfied with our play.

It's not necessarily like I expect all our players to be world class basketball talents and just dominate. I usually don't knock players on skill issues. If a guy misses a good shot, I usually don't say anything (unless it's a guy who has been terrible for a long time, like Garrity or Bogans' endless barrage of shots). It's the attitude, bball IQ, and effort areas of the game that piss me off consistently.

I just don't see the competitive fire and winning attitude in this team. I view us as a team that takes our shooting for granted. We make a lot of 3s and have a good record, but when the going gets tough, we come out on the losing end more often than not. Which is stupid, since we obviously have the talent to be a very good team. I think if this team approached the game more seriously or, say, professionally, we'd be a lot better.

[BassMaster]

I predicted 46 wins at the topix forum, but I thought they could get to 50 I am still waiting. Right now they are not playing their best ball.