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Starting PG for Orlando:

Poll ended at Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:08 pm

Luke Ridnour
3
14%
Jameer Nelson
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86%
 
Total votes: 22

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Post#41 » by magicman123 » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:00 pm

i will take jameer over luke, but i dont think its a big stretch having luke as a better defender since we see what happens to meer...
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Post#42 » by Big A All Day » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:04 pm

theTHIEF wrote:not ganging up on me, I didnt mention his 3pt%...overall though, Ridnour is a better shooter, if you were stating that off of my better shooter statement...he just has better form, timing, release etc.
Form,Timing,Release .... These all mean nothing if they dont drop - Now If your saying his shot looks better then yes, But shawn marion's got 1 of ugliest shots out there, but it goes in... thats what counts
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Post#43 » by theTHIEF » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:09 pm

BigA2k8 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Form,Timing,Release .... These all mean nothing if they dont drop - Now If your saying his shot looks better then yes, But shawn marion's got 1 of ugliest shots out there, but it goes in... thats what counts


before this season, Luke was considered the purer shooter of the two...

why do i feel like i am screaming into an empty well?
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Post#44 » by MagicNolesFSU » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:29 pm

theTHIEF wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



before this season, Luke was considered the purer shooter of the two...

why do i feel like i am screaming into an empty well?


Because your not making any sense. You are just saying anything so you dont have to admit you were wrong.

Luke
04-05 Fg% .405 3pt% .376
05-06 Fg% .418 3pt% .289
06-07 Fg% .433 3pt% .353
07-08 Fg% .412 3pt% .294
Career Fg% .417 3pt% .336

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04-05 Fg% .455 3pt% .312
05-06 Fg% .483 3pt% .424
06-07 Fg% .430 3pt% .335
07-08 Fg% .463 3pt% .400
Career Fg% .456 3pt% .367

You will notice Jameer has shot a better percentage just about EVERY YEAR. Luke has never even TOUCHED 40% from three and Jameers career #'s dwarf Lukes. You claim of luke being a better or "pure" shooter holds no water just as the claim that Luke is a "defender" is laughable
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Post#45 » by theTHIEF » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:45 pm

you are confusing things, you have the notion that stats make you more or less of a pure shooter...i can understand where you are getting confused...

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Excellent shooting stroke... Great passer... Can score and get teammates involved... Excels in transition game... Quick hands... Very good attitude... Lacks strength.


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Ridnour has improved his defense greatly since coming into the league as a rookie and has added a nice three point shot(37.6%) to go with his steady scoring (10.0 ppg) and passing (5.8 apg). Most impressive about Ridnour is his low TOs, only 1.9. That's an assist:TO ratio of roughly 3:1, which is better than average for a PG.


ClutchFans (referring to his college game)
He is the best pure shooter in the game right now outside of Redick




SI.com
Ridnour has really stepped his defensive game up using those quick hands to bother the offense, he's not going to lead the league in any one defensive stat, but the Sonics have got to be happy about his progress


NBADraft.net
Strengths: A fierce competitor with great natural point guard skills. An intelligent, true point guard who gets his teammates involved before looking to score. A floor general type who leads the troops into battle and takes each loss as hard as anyone. Handles the ball effortlessly. Passes the ball superbly. Outside shot is very good. Always seems to know where to go with the ball. Has the basketball IQ and desire to handle the pro point guard position. Very quick and a quick decision maker. Has the guts to be very good.


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Ridnour is one of the top prospects in the upcoming draft for his aggressive game and marksmanship alone.
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Post#46 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:55 pm

So those projections offer a more accurate analysis than career stats? Come again? How about we look at team success in both college and the NBA. Where does that get you?
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Post#47 » by theTHIEF » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:57 pm

eyriq wrote:So those projections offer a more accurate analysis than career stats? Come again? How about we look at team success in both college and the NBA. Where does that get you?



theTHIEF wrote:before this season, Luke was considered the purer shooter of the two...
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Post#48 » by MagicNolesFSU » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:59 pm

theTHIEF wrote:you are confusing things, you have the notion that stats make you more or less of a pure shooter...i can understand where you are getting confused...

HoopsHype
Excellent shooting stroke... Great passer... Can score and get teammates involved... Excels in transition game... Quick hands... Very good attitude... Lacks strength.


SportsWorld
Ridnour has improved his defense greatly since coming into the league as a rookie and has added a nice three point shot(37.6%) to go with his steady scoring (10.0 ppg) and passing (5.8 apg). Most impressive about Ridnour is his low TOs, only 1.9. That's an assist:TO ratio of roughly 3:1, which is better than average for a PG.


ClutchFans (referring to his college game)
He is the best pure shooter in the game right now outside of Redick




SI.com
Ridnour has really stepped his defensive game up using those quick hands to bother the offense, he's not going to lead the league in any one defensive stat, but the Sonics have got to be happy about his progress


NBADraft.net
Strengths: A fierce competitor with great natural point guard skills. An intelligent, true point guard who gets his teammates involved before looking to score. A floor general type who leads the troops into battle and takes each loss as hard as anyone. Handles the ball effortlessly. Passes the ball superbly. Outside shot is very good. Always seems to know where to go with the ball. Has the basketball IQ and desire to handle the pro point guard position. Very quick and a quick decision maker. Has the guts to be very good.


CBNews
Ridnour is one of the top prospects in the upcoming draft for his aggressive game and marksmanship alone.


wait wait so THIS is what is used to tell who can shoot? Really? Half this crap is what people THINK he will do in the pros and is dated before he even came into the league. Im sorry but THEY WAY YOU SHOOT is not more important than YOUR PERCENTAGE.

And no I DONT see how YOU are getting confused.

It doesnt matter how pretty your shot is if its not going in. Its obvious who the better shooter is, and its not Luke.
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Post#49 » by MagicNolesFSU » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:04 pm

theTHIEF wrote:before this season, Luke was considered the purer shooter of the two...


Before this season? ONE I dont see how that even matters, TWO almost ALL of your "sources" are based on his college career and are PRE DRAFT PROJECTIONS.
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Post#50 » by Big A All Day » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:22 pm

theTHIEF wrote:you are confusing things, you have the notion that stats make you more or less of a pure shooter...i can understand where you are getting confused...

HoopsHype
Excellent shooting stroke... Great passer... Can score and get teammates involved... Excels in transition game... Quick hands... Very good attitude... Lacks strength.


SportsWorld
Ridnour has improved his defense greatly since coming into the league as a rookie and has added a nice three point shot(37.6%) to go with his steady scoring (10.0 ppg) and passing (5.8 apg). Most impressive about Ridnour is his low TOs, only 1.9. That's an assist:TO ratio of roughly 3:1, which is better than average for a PG.


ClutchFans (referring to his college game)
He is the best pure shooter in the game right now outside of Redick




SI.com
Ridnour has really stepped his defensive game up using those quick hands to bother the offense, he's not going to lead the league in any one defensive stat, but the Sonics have got to be happy about his progress


NBADraft.net
Strengths: A fierce competitor with great natural point guard skills. An intelligent, true point guard who gets his teammates involved before looking to score. A floor general type who leads the troops into battle and takes each loss as hard as anyone. Handles the ball effortlessly. Passes the ball superbly. Outside shot is very good. Always seems to know where to go with the ball. Has the basketball IQ and desire to handle the pro point guard position. Very quick and a quick decision maker. Has the guts to be very good.


CBNews
Ridnour is one of the top prospects in the upcoming draft for his aggressive game and marksmanship alone.
SI.COM - KEON CLARK
6'11", 220, UNLV - " Why he's The Man: Clark, a lefthander, is a phenomenal athlete. His offensive game is highlighted by some of the most vicious, explosive dunks in recent memory. Can really run the floor. Also a spectacular shot-blocker. " :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Dont believe everything you read champ.

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