Most Overpaid Players according to RealGm.com

Lionel Messi · Post #21 » by **Lionel Messi** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:20 pm

drsd wrote:When the Magic win the title, all this over-paid crap disappears.

and when is that? 10 years?

magicfan4life05 · Post #22 » by **magicfan4life05** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:50 pm

yay the raptors trolls are getting started!!!

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maginno · Post #23 » by **maginno** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:52 pm

D12J14 wrote:Say what you want, but I made an accurate statement. I could only wonder what this team would have looked like with a Nelson/Hedo/Rashard/Battie/Howard lineup.

Only in Orlando is Battie considered a basketball messiah.

TNMagicFan · Post #24 » by **TNMagicFan** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:24 pm

maginno wrote:Only in Orlando is Battie considered a basketball messiah.

No one considers him a basketball messiah :roll:

He would have been an important player for this team though

EasternMagic · Post #25 » by **EasternMagic** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:43 pm

drsd wrote:When the Magic win the title, all this over-paid crap disappears.

+1 you cant put a price tag on the title
as far as the not taking anything from hedo cause of rashard.... without rashard this year hedo isnt as efficient

Post #26 » by **UCFJayBird** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:54 pm

EasternMagic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

+1 you cant put a price tag on the title
as far as the not taking anything from hedo cause of rashard.... without rashard this year hedo isnt as efficient

I think it'd be hilarious (and great of course) if the magic won it this year and there were banners with Rashard Lewis all around town and it said... "Price of a championship: $120 million"

Or there'd HAVE to be some kind of american express commercial.

EasternMagic · Post #27 » by **EasternMagic** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:28 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think it'd be hilarious (and great of course) if the magic won it this year and there were banners with Rashard Lewis all around town and it said... "Price of a championship: $120 million"

Or there'd HAVE to be some kind of american express commercial.

haha im sure we'd see something about it

OMPunk · Post #28 » by **OMPunk** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:24 pm

maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Only in Orlando is Battie considered a basketball messiah.

Oh yea, and I forgot the part where your an idiot.

I have never said Battie is a messiah, however if you don't think we could have used a defensive big that can rebound and block shots.....then see above comment.

EasternMagic · Post #29 » by **EasternMagic** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:39 pm

magicfan4life05 wrote:yay the raptors trolls are getting started!!!

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HAHAHAHAHA! and they truly have no room to talk right now

maginno · Post #30 » by **maginno** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:44 pm

D12J14 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Oh yea, and I forgot the part where your an idiot.

I'm speechless. How could I possibly respond to the sheer intelligence expressed in the use of that word. Thankfully the TOS forbids you from lessening your words to the usual four and expressing more of your intelligence.

I have never said Battie is a messiah, however if you don't think we could have used a defensive big that can rebound and block shots.....then see above comment.

Actually if you could read with comprehension you'd see comments by me all over this forum about our need for a big however if I am left to fantasizing and wondering I think I would prefer to think about a real starting PF not one that is getting ready for retirement and would never start for any high caliber team at this point in his career. So no he is not the messiah (AKA - solution to lead to the promise land of a significantly high caliber team) whether you understand the use of that word or not.

OMPunk · Post #31 » by **OMPunk** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:36 pm

maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Actually if you could read with comprehension you'd see comments by me all over this forum about our need for a big however if I am left to fantasizing and wondering I think I would prefer to think about a real starting PF not one that is getting ready for retirement and would never start for any high caliber team at this point in his career. So no he is not the messiah (AKA - solution to lead to the promise land of a significantly high caliber team) whether you understand the use of that word or not.

Go ahead and think your better than me because you have different ways of attempting to mock my intelligence....good for you.

To stay on topic though, there are no other realistic options besides Battie at this point. Otis likes this team too much to have made a trade for a defensive rebounding big and there wasn't much in the way of free agency to sign one. Battie was the best option we had and he would have been a good temporary starter for the season until we attempted to either draft a big this offseason or sign one.

maginno · Post #32 » by **maginno** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:55 pm

D12J14 wrote:
To stay on topic though

Wish you had from the beginning rather than resorting to all the idiot name calling.

there are no other realistic options besides Battie at this point. Otis likes this team too much to have made a trade for a defensive rebounding big

You will have to wait until the offseason is through before making that statement. Impossible to say who will truly be available either for free agency or trades and who we draft may also have a part to play. Personally I think Battie will be a much worse option that he would have been this year. At his age such a long layoff is not likely to improve his play when he does return.

and for the record I was not singling you out when I made the Battie messiah reference. I know a great deal of Magic fans who over rate him

theTHIEF · Post #33 » by **theTHIEF** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:23 pm

it's hard to justify $120m for any player really, and even though he has done well for us this year and his game plus the elevated play of Howard and Hedo and the coaching of SVG has earned us another 9 (or more) win than last season. To be where we are today he was a necessary piece, but the price is still pretty steep. However as long as we advance past the first round and have a decent off season, it wont bother me one bit...

mfishy · Post #34 » by **mfishy** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:28 pm

If they are talking about this year, it is not even close to accurate. Here are a few 2008 salaries....I guess if we are predicting 5 years from now, we will also have to see who the hell else is there, no? Cassie? Thoughts?

Finley - $21,696,750
Marbury - $21,109,375
Weber - $19,596,000

nuff said.

orl1724 · Post #35 » by **orl1724** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:28 am

D12J14 wrote:With no Hedo, Rashard would be earning that money a bit more. Just look at what he does with the touches he does get. Rashard is an extremely efficient player and one that could score more points and be more effective if he was getting more touches and playing his natural position of small forward.

The fact that Rashard is still getting his 20 with only about 12-14 touches a game speaks for itself. Rashard could do more if he needed too.

EXACTLY!!

Im glad not to be the only one. Lewis is a better player than Hedo IMO if we let Lewis be 2nd option and give him more freedom on offense he could probably average 25 ppg.

Im not against Hedo but once we get bullied in the playoffs we will all realize playing small ball isnt the way to win a championship. I mean if the Suns who practically brought back the "run and gun" style back all of a sudden quit (by getting Shaq) why would we keep trying. Lets trade Hedo while his value is high get a decent PF and maybe sign a SG or PG and we would be set.

Post #36 » by **eyriq** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:49 am

It's not really small ball when you have a guy like Dwight anchoring the middle. Which is why I like Lewis playing the 4 so much.

Also about his value, we have improved 9+ games over last season and this is with the departures of Hill and Darko. The only reason he is not putting up all star numbers this year is due to his usage rating be so much lower compared to last year. The development of Hedo has whittled away at his touches, but hey and to his credit, he isn

richboy · Post #37 » by **richboy** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:41 pm

There no such thing as well if we didn't have Hedo Rashard would do this. Hedo is the number 2 because he is the number 2 best playmaker on this team. If this team had Kobe Bryant or Lebron James Hedo would not be the number 2. They would not be taking a back seat to Hedo because there far more talented. If Rashard is better than he should just step up and be the better player. Show that you can do the things that Hedo does.

The limitations of Rashard as a player is the reason why Hedo is the number 2 guy. Why stop at Hedo. Lets get rid of Dwight so Rashard is the number 1 guy.

drsd · Post #38 » by **drsd** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:39 pm

richboy wrote:There no such thing as well if we didn't have Hedo Rashard would do this. Hedo is the number 2 because he is the number 2 best playmaker on this team. If this team had Kobe Bryant or Lebron James Hedo would not be the number 2. They would not be taking a back seat to Hedo because there far more talented. If Rashard is better than he should just step up and be the better player. Show that you can do the things that Hedo does.

The limitations of Rashard as a player is the reason why Hedo is the number 2 guy. Why stop at Hedo. Lets get rid of Dwight so Rashard is the number 1 guy.

For me, this misses the point. Let's say that Lewis was the starting SF and Turkoglu the starting PF. Rashard would have a better stat line than Hedo does now; but Hedo would be tanking at PF.

Lewis stats are suffering not in spite of Hedo but rather because of a lack of a bona fide PF and the need for Hedo to start with the void at SG.

The Magic play a PG, SG, two SFs, and a combo big as a starting five.

richboy · Post #39 » by **richboy** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:33 am

drsd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

For me, this misses the point. Let's say that Lewis was the starting SF and Turkoglu the starting PF. Rashard would have a better stat line than Hedo does now; but Hedo would be tanking at PF.

Lewis stats are suffering not in spite of Hedo but rather because of a lack of a bona fide PF and the need for Hedo to start with the void at SG.

The Magic play a PG, SG, two SFs, and a combo big as a starting five.

Based on what. The opponent decides who they guard Rashard with. Rashard is really only assigned PF duties on defense. On offense he often guarded by SFs or PFs. The only way to say that Rashard would have better stats is if he was the top post option like he was in Seattle. How is giving Hedo the tag of PF and Rashard the tag of SF make his stats better.