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Post#21 » by mapko81 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:22 pm

Considering the only referee decision which could've influenced the final outcome of a game was against Toronto (the no-call for Bosh when he drove to the bucket in Toronto's 2nd last possession of Game 2), I find it rather pathetic some of you would rationalize losing game 3 on a referee conspiracy. I just hope Stan Van Gundy and the entire Magic team use the same justification in lieu of game 4 - instead of say altering their game plan - because then Toronto would win another laugher.
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Post#22 » by mhectorgato » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:27 pm

Typhoon20 wrote:We had TWICE the amount of FT's they had, 14 for them 27 for us.

The Raps had TWICE the amount of assists as we had, they had over 30 we had like barely 15.

Dwight had 6 TO's.

Those 3, especially the first 2 were just crucial. Jameer, Hedo, Shard combined had almost all of our 15 assists. That's not a good stat, we need the other players to pass the ball well too if we want to be a good team, jacking up shots just won't cut it.

When you get twice the amount of FT's, you try to make most of them, we failed.


The positives....we shot the 3 ball for 22%...we all know that's not gonna happen again. Also we won't be outrebounded like that again, meaning less shots for Toronto and more shots for us. Seeing how these 2 have to do with focus and effort, Stan will rip them a new one and they'll come back to take game 4.


In game 1 we had 10 TOs and 2 we had 13, and last night it was 14. Obviously these aren't the only factors in determining the outcome. However we gave them 3 and 4 extra possessions and took 3 and 4 chances to score, draw fouls, run clock, etc from ourselves.

In game 3 we were able to get 13 TOs from them, but weren't able to capitalize. They showed the numbers during the broadcast and I forgot them, and can't find 'em now. But they were horrifically lopsided in their favor.
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Post#23 » by Magicalltheway » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:55 pm

Bucs80 wrote:Us Magic fans complain like hell when we lose.

I can say there is only a few cool heads (Including Myself) who don't go all crazy in blaming the refs. Because simply tonight we were just beat. You can't go down 21 and blame the refs.

Toronto seriously has just changed the momentum of the series. Game 2 they basically loss the game till the very end. Then game 3, yall killed us. This series in much retrospect has been tighter than most Magic fans claimed it to be. And Toronto slightly has the edge on us for play in the first 2/3 games.



Actually, most games that we have lost we have come in here and complained about our own players and how bad they were. I have not read many posts where we look for an excuse for our loss and blame the refs.

yes I am extremely annoyed by all the flopping done by Bosh and cheap and dirty play of Calderon on Jameer. However, I will did not take away the fact that the Raps played their heart out and we didnt. I dont know what the cause was. A few calls were momentum swingers for sure. Like the ref calling Hedo for touching the ball out of bounds were he clearly had not and cost him a technical. However, had we played better we would not have to even bring these refs issued up at all. I just hope we play much better than we did.

I will give it the toronto, they were much quicker on their feet and fronted every player instantly taking away the perimeter shots and would quickly clog the middle to disallow penetration. The just the better team yesterday thats all.
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Post#24 » by Wonka_INC » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:01 pm

It's looking like a great series, i am a big fan of Dwight Howard and the Magic. You guys are 3rd in the East for a reason being the 3rd best team in the East, whoever wins this series will deserve it.
Anyways best of luck from a Raptor fan, im enjoying the series!
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Post#25 » by MagicFan149 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:07 pm

mapko81 wrote:Considering the only referee decision which could've influenced the final outcome of a game was against Toronto (the no-call for Bosh when he drove to the bucket in Toronto's 2nd last possession of Game 2), I find it rather pathetic some of you would rationalize losing game 3 on a referee conspiracy. I just hope Stan Van Gundy and the entire Magic team use the same justification in lieu of game 4 - instead of say altering their game plan - because then Toronto would win another laugher.


read the previous like 5 posts above youres... everyone say something along the lines of you guys straight beat us.... do you blatenly ignore that and then spew non sense about how we blame it on the refs??... thats is a laugher.... you guys came out with more energy and put it to us.... good game... but all you guys did was defend home court just like we did... the magic just have to come out with more intensity and want it more than the raptors... raptor fans make me laugh
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Post#26 » by Morris_Shatford » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:27 pm

The Rap's showed improvement in game 2, and more so in game 3.

Sure some calls are questionable, but it wasn't the same Magic team that was in Orlando.
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Post#27 » by craig01 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:53 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Magic did get outplayed

Refs were a factor in momentum

Sea of Red affected us

They made lots of timely 3's

Arroyo sucks


The refs don't affect momentum of a team that is trailing by 15 points for most of the game.

What affected momentum was poor shooting from the arc, giving up too many offensive rebounds, and inability to defend the 3 (Kapono).

Raps just plain out hustled and outscored the Magic. The Magic will have to adjust.

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Post#28 » by mapko81 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:17 pm

MagicFan149 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



read the previous like 5 posts above youres... everyone say something along the lines of you guys straight beat us.... do you blatenly ignore that and then spew non sense about how we blame it on the refs??... thats is a laugher.... you guys came out with more energy and put it to us.... good game... but all you guys did was defend home court just like we did... the magic just have to come out with more intensity and want it more than the raptors... raptor fans make me laugh


Perhaps I should have bolded the words some of you in my post so you would not think I was generalizing all Magic fans.

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