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Post#1221 » by maginno » Wed May 7, 2008 4:07 pm

knappy wrote: I don't care about the rules - Piston fans, Magic fans and all fans in the NBA know it was dead wrong what the officials did and the NBA - we followed rules, the officials did a good job - bull - they totally screwed up.


The job of the officials is to follow the rules. Period. If they had no choice they had no choice and didn't screw up besides being human. Provided we do not tie this up all this arguing is just a diversion. So even if you think it was a rip it really doesn't make any sense to get all bent out of shape over it at least until we have a real series that the Magic could have won with this game. Its not 2-1 its 2-0. Defend home court or none of this makes any difference

I hope you local Magic fans make enough noise to rattle any detroit three pointer out of the rim. thats the only constructive place to make all this noise.
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Post#1222 » by mhectorgato » Wed May 7, 2008 4:17 pm

maginno wrote:The job of the officials is to follow the rules. Period.


Many other - most that I can remember - times, they stop play, reset the clock - if any time came off, and do the play over again.

maginno wrote:So even if you think it was a rip it really doesn't make any sense to get all bent out of shape over it at least until we have a real series that the Magic could have won with this game.


It's the past, we should leave it there. But to to say that it didn't effect the game - and therefore the series - at all is foolhardy.

But the crux of the matter is that the 4 or so TOs in the last 5 minutes hurt us much more that the oversight of the refs.
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Post#1223 » by Superman » Wed May 7, 2008 5:00 pm

maginno wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The job of the officials is to follow the rules. Period. If they had no choice they had no choice and didn't screw up besides being human. Provided we do not tie this up all this arguing is just a diversion. So even if you think it was a rip it really doesn't make any sense to get all bent out of shape over it at least until we have a real series that the Magic could have won with this game. Its not 2-1 its 2-0. Defend home court or none of this makes any difference

I hope you local Magic fans make enough noise to rattle any detroit three pointer out of the rim. thats the only constructive place to make all this noise.


I don't know WTF you are talking about. That's exactly why people are getting bent out of shape about this, because without those bogus 3 points there is a huge posibility that we could be 1-1, is that a real enough series for you?
and yes we made a lot of bonehead plays in the end but if we were up 1 instead of down 2 with seconds to go do you think they would have rushed as much as they did?
that play without a doubt affected the outcome of the ballgame. The right call would've been to reset the clock to 5.1 and replay the posession.
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Post#1224 » by craig01 » Wed May 7, 2008 7:39 pm

The shot did not change momentum though.

The Magic HAD the lead in the 4th quarter, but let it slip away with turnovers and poor shot selection.

It's like pointing to a single missed FT early in a game and saying that was the difference in a one point loss.
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Post#1225 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 7, 2008 8:00 pm

craig01 wrote:The shot did not change momentum though.

The Magic HAD the lead in the 4th quarter, but let it slip away with turnovers and poor shot selection.

It's like pointing to a single missed FT early in a game and saying that was the difference in a one point loss.


I don't disagree that we made bad plays, but I have to disagree with the statements made by many people.

I keep hearing "The Magic had the lead in the 4th and lost it, therefore it's their fault that they lost."

But, if the Pistons had 3 less points, would we have lost that lead?


It's the most ridiculous argument, in my opinion.

In the future, any time that a team is winning by 4 in the fourth quarter, we should just take away 3 points, so that they're leading by 1. They still have the lead, so if they go on to lose the game, it's obviously their fault for giving up the lead, the three points don't matter, they had a lead and lost it.
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Post#1226 » by craig01 » Wed May 7, 2008 8:20 pm

Good points, but here's my final take on this:

In the end, there are only absolutes in basketball.

The ball goes in, or it does not.

You pass it to your teammate, or you give it away.

You outscore the other team, or you do not.

What if Billups got called for a travel while driving the lane? What if the refs would have called a foul for Hedo at the end? What if Wallace would have been called for 3 seconds but wasn't?

If, but, should have, or would have, just don't matter in the end.

So what if the Pistons had three less points? Would it have mattered?

Nobody will ever know the answer to that. There are a million "what if's and should have/would have's" in every game. But singling out just one well before the game is over isn't dealing with the real issues as to why the Magic lost.

But I do know the answer as to why the Magic lost the game.

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Post#1227 » by Potterman » Wed May 7, 2008 8:22 pm

[quote="devin3807"][/quote]

I didnt quite understand what your saying.

You mean to say that you agree that it was a bonehead call that meant allot to the game and it's foolish to expect otherwise?

That's what I am getting out of it. Maybe it's the fact that I am still at work and didn't sleep last night though.
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Post#1228 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 7, 2008 8:37 pm

rurouniad wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I didnt quite understand what your saying.

You mean to say that you agree that it was a bonehead call that meant allot to the game and it's foolish to expect otherwise?

That's what I am getting out of it. Maybe it's the fact that I am still at work and didn't sleep last night though.


Yes, I agree that it was a bad call, and that it meant a lot to the game.

People dismiss it simply because we had a lead in the fourth and lost it, while ignoring that had they not been given those extra three points, we may have not lost the lead.

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