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Post#61 » by mhectorgato » Wed May 7, 2008 8:37 pm

craig01 wrote:You can't assume that everything would have played out exactly the same though whether the three was or was not counted. It doesn't work that way.

If this was baseball, yeah, maybe you could argue about a foul ball that was called a home run.

But basketball is about ebb and flow, and the fact is, is that the Magic did not play well down the stretch.

Had the Magic deserved to win that game, they would have made about 10 fewer turnovers. That 3rd qtr gift to the Pistons only stood out because of the Magic performance down the stretch.


I don't disagree.

But couldn't it be said that the bad call ebbed the Magic's flow? In that it effected them mentally thus causing them not to perform as well later on.
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Post#62 » by flyingvee » Wed May 7, 2008 8:38 pm

Thats just not true. One single play can change the outcome of a game. You could see that in dozens of games in the past, one single blown call would swing a game by 6 points right away. It gave the Pistons momentum and would have placed the Magic in position to win that game, rather than play from behind that they had to. NO guarantee of the win but would have been better chances. And I agree, they should have started the play over.

Everyone forget the league called for a replay of the Heat-Hawks game this year cause they gave a wrong foul to Shaq? I guess a regular season game was worth replaying but not a botched playoff game?
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Post#63 » by mhectorgato » Wed May 7, 2008 8:47 pm

flyingvee wrote:Thats just not true. One single play can change the outcome of a game. You could see that in dozens of games in the past, one single blown call would swing a game by 6 points right away. It gave the Pistons momentum and would have placed the Magic in position to win that game, rather than play from behind that they had to. NO guarantee of the win but would have been better chances. And I agree, they should have started the play over.

Everyone forget the league called for a replay of the Heat-Hawks game this year cause they gave a wrong foul to Shaq? I guess a regular season game was worth replaying but not a botched playoff game?


It also served to rally the crowd. Momentum-wise, we would have erased a half time time deficit of 10 points and be leading going into the 4th.

Again, the TOs were the straws that broke the camel's back. But without the bad call, imo there's a possibility - albeit slight - that the we might have won have despite them.
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Post#64 » by AdamTheGreek » Wed May 7, 2008 9:17 pm

I knew I liked J.A. Adande for a reason, he just said that we should replay Game 2 from the 5.1 seconds onward. :D
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Post#65 » by craig01 » Wed May 7, 2008 9:20 pm

Momentum that the Magic regained when they took an 84-80 lead.

If memory serves me right, most of the turnovers followed after that point.

Don't get me wrong, there is no doubt that the end of the 3rd quarter left a bad taste, but that not did veer the Magic towards defeat.....not at that point in the game.

Let's face it, if we are trying to believe that the Magic are so weak willed that they can be affected by a bad call for the next twelve minutes in a playoff game, then I think everyone here is looking for excuses instead of reasons as to why they lost.
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Post#66 » by flyingvee » Wed May 7, 2008 10:01 pm

Sure, the Magic made a lot of costly turnovers toward the end, but 3 points is still 3 points and the game was a lot closer than the score because of all the intentional fouling in the end. Plus the questionable calls at the end.

With the media, especially TNT all over the NBA about the botched call the Magic should have filed a protest to replay the game from that point on.
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Post#67 » by Train Wreck » Wed May 7, 2008 11:07 pm

Superman wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That's why the right call would have been to reset the clock at 5.1 and re-play the possession on a side out of bounds. That's what they do all the time, I really wonder what made this instance any different.


The only time the Ref's are allowed to do so is if they catch the time malfuction before the shot is made... That's why this time was different..

It's a bad rule, not a bad call by the Refs
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Post#68 » by TheGlyde » Wed May 7, 2008 11:27 pm

Train Wreck wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The only time the Ref's are allowed to do so is if they catch the time malfuction before the shot is made... That's why this time was different..

It's a bad rule, not a bad call by the Refs


Lol... and around the loop we go again.

There was a bad call, when they decided Detroit brought the ball up court, had 18 passes, a cup of tea and a lunch break all in 4.6 seconds.
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Post#69 » by ORL » Thu May 8, 2008 3:56 am

I'm trying to put myself into their minds and still can't come up with a reason why arbitrarily coming up with 4.6 was a better solution than replaying the 5.1 seconds.

They say they followed proper procedure, but I want to know where exactly is procedure for such an event written down?

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