meer has flashes of brilliance and it tends to tempt you into thinking and hoping it will be more consistent. Those kinds of players are always fan favorites until its been proven beyond any doubt that they won't be what you hope they will be.
I had given up hope on Meer until stan came and read the riot act by putting his spot up for competition in the summer. I think he responded and I'm willing to see him develop maybe some more next year.
Still I cannot deny it. Meer cannot handle guards like Billups.
Ok, so what is it about Nelson that fascinates the fans?
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In the short term, the Magic need Nelson to play well.
How long he continues to play this well remains to be seen.
Performance wise, does the present turn into the future for Nelson? Who knows.....I have an opinion, but it isn't important at this time.
Me, I'm just not going go around and poke holes at any bubbles for a while. They may burst, you know?
I think I'll let all this play out and just watch and observe. Otis threw all of these guys into the pond, and we'll just have to wait and see how they swim out of it.
How long he continues to play this well remains to be seen.
Performance wise, does the present turn into the future for Nelson? Who knows.....I have an opinion, but it isn't important at this time.
Me, I'm just not going go around and poke holes at any bubbles for a while. They may burst, you know?
I think I'll let all this play out and just watch and observe. Otis threw all of these guys into the pond, and we'll just have to wait and see how they swim out of it.
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Jameer has shown flashes of brilliance when he actually gets the ball in the context of the game. When they don't get Jameer involved I notice that he feels obligated to take some shots. You don't just show flashes of brilliance for a whole season. After his sophomore season, EVERY Magic fan considered Jameer part of the core.
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Outside of Dooling. Jameer is the only thing that makes me feel "OK" about our backcourt. Arroyo has been an absoloute no show the entire playoffs and I hope he turns it around.
I am worried that Nelson cannot sustain this level of performance. However, if its a big stage at least Nelson can handle that.
To me Nelson is not gonna bring us rings...thats Dwights job. But he does his job well for the most part. To be honest it's our SG sittuation that scores the crap out of me. Gortat doing well and Battie coming back next year makes me feel ok about or big sittuation.
If anything I have learned is that we need an obvious upgrade at the 2.
I am worried that Nelson cannot sustain this level of performance. However, if its a big stage at least Nelson can handle that.
To me Nelson is not gonna bring us rings...thats Dwights job. But he does his job well for the most part. To be honest it's our SG sittuation that scores the crap out of me. Gortat doing well and Battie coming back next year makes me feel ok about or big sittuation.
If anything I have learned is that we need an obvious upgrade at the 2.
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When healthy (he was in and out of the lineup a fair bit this season) he has played solidly. His last moth of the season was excellent. SVG has been good for him. I don't know if he is the starting PG we need in order to go all the way, but I'd like to keep him and give him at least 25 minutes a night for the forseable future. He's a good player and a good friend of our franchise player.
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It's interesting that you suggest other guard's being a scapegoat when Nelson doesn't play, because my own observation on the forums over the past couple of years is that Nelson is the first player to have the finger pointed at him when the Magic lose.
I've always had mixed feelings about Nelson, but generally have leaned towards the positives. There is no doubt he is a talented player, a good shooter and a better passer than he is given credit for. And for a 5'10 guy, he has shown himself a pretty adept rebounder this season. In terms of skill, he is not lacking. He's certainly not lacking in terms of heart or determination, either. But I struggle to see him getting past the 'undersized' label.
In his defense, when I see people write things like 'he can't handle Chris Paul/Deron Williams/Tony Parker' etc. - they are the elite, and there are few guards in the league who can. But admittedly it doesn't detract from the fact that against quality guards, particularly bigger ones, he does struggle on the defensive end. Still, we do have Keyon Dooling to step in on nights when Jameer is really having trouble, and with Turk capable of running the offense for stretches, having Keyon at the 1 would not be too disruptive.
The thing is, as I have said before, his height should not stand in the way of him being at least a competent defender. John Stockton and Mookie Blaylock were both barely 6'0, and Stockton was not a great athlete, but both were perennial All-Defensive selections - dedication to the job gets you past a lot of that on D. If Nelson took Keyon Dooling's attitude to defense - getting right in the face of the opponent, pressuring them constanting, generally being a pest - he would get by just fine, and I am not sure why SVG hasn't asked him to do that. Nothing will ever stop guys like Billups being able to shoot over Nelson, but things can be done - by Jameer himself - to try and avoid those players getting into a shooting position in the first place.
I honestly think that Nelson could be Orlando's point guard for the future. The Magic are operating a system where our points don't dominate the ball handling, so a guard like Nelson who is capable of playing both on and off the ball, shooting and penetrating is definitely still an asset. If the Jameer who showed up after the All-Star break and posted an assist:turnover ratio of 3.82:1, whilst shooting over 50% from the field and from three, and also playing improved defense, is the Jameer Nelson we will see long term, then Otis' decision to sign him to an extension may well prove to be a good one. If alternatively he reverts to the Jameer we saw pre All-Star - flashes of excellence quickly followed by periods of poor play - then Smith has made a big mistake.
Jameer has made steps forward this season, and I look forward to seeing if he can continue to do so next year.
I've always had mixed feelings about Nelson, but generally have leaned towards the positives. There is no doubt he is a talented player, a good shooter and a better passer than he is given credit for. And for a 5'10 guy, he has shown himself a pretty adept rebounder this season. In terms of skill, he is not lacking. He's certainly not lacking in terms of heart or determination, either. But I struggle to see him getting past the 'undersized' label.
In his defense, when I see people write things like 'he can't handle Chris Paul/Deron Williams/Tony Parker' etc. - they are the elite, and there are few guards in the league who can. But admittedly it doesn't detract from the fact that against quality guards, particularly bigger ones, he does struggle on the defensive end. Still, we do have Keyon Dooling to step in on nights when Jameer is really having trouble, and with Turk capable of running the offense for stretches, having Keyon at the 1 would not be too disruptive.
The thing is, as I have said before, his height should not stand in the way of him being at least a competent defender. John Stockton and Mookie Blaylock were both barely 6'0, and Stockton was not a great athlete, but both were perennial All-Defensive selections - dedication to the job gets you past a lot of that on D. If Nelson took Keyon Dooling's attitude to defense - getting right in the face of the opponent, pressuring them constanting, generally being a pest - he would get by just fine, and I am not sure why SVG hasn't asked him to do that. Nothing will ever stop guys like Billups being able to shoot over Nelson, but things can be done - by Jameer himself - to try and avoid those players getting into a shooting position in the first place.
I honestly think that Nelson could be Orlando's point guard for the future. The Magic are operating a system where our points don't dominate the ball handling, so a guard like Nelson who is capable of playing both on and off the ball, shooting and penetrating is definitely still an asset. If the Jameer who showed up after the All-Star break and posted an assist:turnover ratio of 3.82:1, whilst shooting over 50% from the field and from three, and also playing improved defense, is the Jameer Nelson we will see long term, then Otis' decision to sign him to an extension may well prove to be a good one. If alternatively he reverts to the Jameer we saw pre All-Star - flashes of excellence quickly followed by periods of poor play - then Smith has made a big mistake.
Jameer has made steps forward this season, and I look forward to seeing if he can continue to do so next year.